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P.S. Why don't you take a poll of Wu's members and ask them how many feel that they have a foot fetish because they have a "low opinion of themselves."
I'll bet most of them feel just fine about themselves, and don't feel that their fetish arises from a desire to be degraded for being lowly.
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quote:Originally posted by Pjay: Why is it that I can't say anything that describes ME without you jumping all over me as though accusing me of claiming that what's true of me is true of everyone?!
Didn't you pose those exact same questions to me when i shared an opinion of mine?
I don't understand why you'd get so defensive though (unlike me). As fetishists, I believe we should not be afraid of being honest with each other since it only causes us to hide deeper in the dark when one chooses to put on a facad.
quote:Originally posted by Pjay: One exception disproves the so-called "rule."
Perhaps, but usually not... plus the exception would have to be believable. Consider this as well: How many times have a few foot fetish freaks represented us in the mainstream news and caused the "general rules" about foot fetishists to be misinterpreted because of what those freaks did as the exceptions?
quote:Originally posted by Pjay: I'll bet most of them feel just fine about themselves, and don't feel that their fetish arises from a desire to be degraded for being lowly.
I doubt this would be true of many lurkers who are too ashamed of themselves to participate. Their lack of participation most likely stems from inferiority complexes and their fear of being agressively confronted by people who are overbearing about their own strain of fetish.
I doubt this majority would really want to argue the merits of their foot humiliation fantasies with a person like you who is outwardly intolerant of the notion. At least it can be assumed that those meek & humble subbies aren't trying to over-compensate for anything though, which is sorta the opposite of what I've been able to discern from some of the louder members (who would quickly jump all over such a poll).
There's no need to victimize those guys even more by jumping in their faces about their brand of fetish. As brethren, we should be more nurturing and accepting of our foot brothers. They should not be made into victims
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Tyler, I don't know where you got the impression that I am "intolerant" of other "strains" of foot fetish. It is certainly not the case.
Sure, I occasionally gripe about the sheer volume of cum-coated feet pictures that get posted, because frankly it begins to seem to me that the people asking for them have more of a cum fetish than a foot fetish but I never at any point claimed or claim that they're not entitled to like what they like. I just bemoan that the pics are not simply of the feet.
When you said, "I doubt this majority would really want to argue the merits of their foot humiliation fantasies," you are implying that it's a foregone conclusion that there IS a majority of foot fetishist lurkers on here who are (a) into humiliation and (b) too ashamed of it to speak up in their own defense. The trouble is, it's not a foregone conclusion.
It's a logical fallacy.
There is an inherent logical flaw with the assertion: IT'S NON-DISPROVABLE.
What you're essentially saying is that my comments are cowing into meek submission a supposed majority of members here who--because of what I said--will not make their voices heard. So, if they won't make their voices heard, how can you possibly know how many people are being influenced by my comments as you claim they are?
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imho, some foot fetishists are too obsessed and/or consumed and just fuck it all up. 90 percent of being with women is confidence and not saying crazy shit to her within the first 1/2 hour of meeting her.
And women know within the first 5 minutes of meeting you, what category in her pretty little heads you will be put in. Best to be in her "good to go" categories, imho
quote:Originally posted by Pjay: So, if they won't make their voices heard, how can you possibly know how many people are being influenced by my comments as you claim they are?
I'm simply drawing from the repeating evidence that a majority of foot fetishists are into submissive elements of foot fetishism. And as a result of being more submissive they are less likely to have the level of self-assurance needed to engage in discussions that are most likely to point out their own worthlessness, hence exacerbating a confrontation that they'd already prefer to avoid.
We can logically assume that the entirety of membership on this forum probably closely represents the patterns of overall foot fetishism in the real world. I therefore base my conclusions about the silent & not-so-silent membership demographic of this forum on our assumptions that the overarching real-life foot fetish submissive patterns are legitimate.
But rather than make wrong assumptions or uncertain assumptions that are only geared at making myself feel better, I have to base my assessments on discernable metrics provided by the foot fetish industry. There's much more to be said about that if you wish to read a book about this insight.
I personally wish most foot fetishists weren't into these grovelling scenarios (that make us look like wussbags to women), but I refuse to encourage a false positive outlook by fooling myself. I've found life to be more rewarding when I can operate w/o blinders, even despite the many times where I'd probably wished I had been wearing blinders instead.
The wearing of blinders is a personal choice that each of us can make though, just like a person can choose which strain of fetish they like. Cheers mate!
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OK, so Brek has had an experience that may or may not be representative of a large number of foot fetishists.
I took issue with some of the things he said in the other thread because: a) he made it seem that he thinks that ending up with a foot fetish is a bad, undesirable thing to befall a person b) he made it seem as though it's likely that foot fetishes get their "start" through some sort of traumatic experience in which the future fetishist is forced to interact with someone's feet
My experience has been so far removed from that kind of thing that I was compelled to respond. I surely didn't mean to send anyone back into a closet or "lurk mode" or anything.
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I used to think I was a victim in a way, heh. infact through my own personality and my family I've been forced to try and be the best. So thinking I had something wrong with me was a bit damaging. Since I opened up to my current girlfriend (the only person i've ever done so with) I felt really liberated.
But that's the problem! I shouldn't have to feel liberated. It should be just like any sexual kink.
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quote:Originally posted by temp1234: I used to think I was a victim in a way, heh. infact through my own personality and my family I've been forced to try and be the best. So thinking I had something wrong with me was a bit damaging. Since I opened up to my current girlfriend (the only person i've ever done so with) I felt really liberated.
But that's the problem! I shouldn't have to feel liberated. It should be just like any sexual kink.
It is just like any sexual kink. I pose this question...if a woman is VERY attracted to you...wouldn't it be stupid if she didn't indulge your foot fetish? We all know anal isn't the most pleasant feeling for a woman but she'll do it for a guy she's into....what's that to a foot job? But the guy must bbe confident...and act like a man with his desires. Show no shame. I am man. I like feet. Take it or leave it.
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