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Chaz Fontana
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Blame the others who are offering it for free, not those who take it.

If you don't like it, find another career that pays. [/QB]

...Your an idiot. What a retarded outlook on justifying content theft. I'm glad you don't feel entitled, you shouldn't be. So why are you arguing your own point, except for the sake of arguing and flaming this thread?!?

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Content is cheap, but the best stuff is always in demand.

Many sites have shut down, and many sites were never very good to begin with.

There are more and more sites than ever online these days; no surprise not all can compete.

Consumers expect real value for their money these days.

The days of webmasters charging full price for a few dozen models, or once a week updates are gone.

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Originally posted by Beautifulfeetonline.com:
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Blame the others who are offering it for free, not those who take it.

If you don't like it, find another career that pays.

...Your an idiot. What a retarded outlook on justifying content theft. I'm glad you don't feel entitled, you shouldn't be. So why are you arguing your own point, except for the sake of arguing and flaming this thread?!?

I'm an idiot? [Laugh]

I suggest you keep doing what you're doing and don't worry about the "freeloaders" who feel they are "entitled" to free stuff.

I don't care what the fuck you think of me. I don't OWE you shit! [Thumbs Up] [/QB]



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it's the freeloader mentality that contributes to ideas such as "foot fetish getting a bad name"

it's probably a good thing that some of us can honestly say "we're not like those other desperate fetishists", cuz that probably contributes to differences in getting women vs not.

sometimes, it's very apparent the type of foot fetishists who can get feet and those who can't. the latter probably fuels the uncompromising need to download feet pics at any cost.

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quote:
Originally posted by goodguyneighbor:
Content is cheap, but the best stuff is always in demand.

Many sites have shut down, and many sites were never very good to begin with.

There are more and more sites than ever online these days; no surprise not all can compete.

Consumers expect real value for their money these days.

The days of webmasters charging full price for a few dozen models, or once a week updates are gone.

While I agree with some of your statement, I don't agree with all of it. Just pumping countless models onto a site is not a key to success. It can help and be good in many ways, but I will be honest, I and many others ALSO like the sites with regular models as well. Put a good photographer/webmaster behind a site that rotates a handful of models that people like and it will be fine. siteDon't ask me how I know that. :joint:And I put up 3-4 items per update once a week. I don't run my site as my full time job. If I dropped everything else in my life and put every effort into it, I am sure I'd even do better. But I never planned for this site to be my job. I don't want to be some business man with this. It's my passion and something I enjoy. All that said, I do fine, so I guess it can be done.

Patrick

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quote:
Originally posted by Tyler D.:
it's the freeloader mentality that contributes to ideas such as "foot fetish getting a bad name"...... latter probably fuels the uncompromising need to download feet pics at any cost.

Oh no, here we go again......

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quote:
Originally posted by Patrick:
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Originally posted by goodguyneighbor:
Content is cheap, but the best stuff is always in demand.

Many sites have shut down, and many sites were never very good to begin with.

There are more and more sites than ever online these days; no surprise not all can compete.

Consumers expect real value for their money these days.

The days of webmasters charging full price for a few dozen models, or once a week updates are gone.

While I agree with some of your statement, I don't agree with all of it. Just pumping countless models onto a site is not a key to success. It can help and be good in many ways, but I will be honest, I and many others ALSO like the sites with regular models as well. Put a good photographer/webmaster behind a site that rotates a handful of models that people like and it will be fine. siteDon't ask me how I know that. :joint:And I put up 3-4 items per update once a week. I don't run my site as my full time job. If I dropped everything else in my life and put every effort into it, I am sure I'd even do better. But I never planned for this site to be my job. I don't want to be some business man with this. It's my passion and something I enjoy. All that said, I do fine, so I guess it can be done.

Patrick

Pat, I like your work and style. You can have the most and hottest models out there but if the photographer is novice it will show.

Good photographers have a way of taking something and making it look spectacular.

Now if I had extra money in my budget to afford a membership site I'd definitely go for yours.

As of now I can't afford it, so I'll simply take the blame and be called a "freeloader" who gives "foot fetishists" a bad name for hanging out at a FREE site like Wu's. Later.

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quote:
Originally posted by Scotty7493:
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Originally posted by Tyler D.:
it's the freeloader mentality that contributes to ideas such as "foot fetish getting a bad name"...... latter probably fuels the uncompromising need to download feet pics at any cost.

Oh no, here we go again......
over the years, desperation & bad behaviors have been key to the negative impressions about foot fetishists.

if it isn't asking too much, there are some foot fetishists who believe that others should keep their habits in check for the sake of the greater good. that is all that is being said here

stealing and pirating the hard work of content producers for the sake of a spewing all over oneself is a rather despicable idea no matter who is the judge. let's try to keep things on the up and up [Thumbs Up]

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quote:
Originally posted by Hal:
Single clips are great if you have very special interests -- even if they cost more than a membership to a website.

Some people aren`t interested in the amount of pics & clips, but are only interested in their special niche content.
It`s the same with me...IŽll rather see exactly what I love in a 5-min video, than get access to 5000 photos showing content that I`m not into.

-Hal-

What he said. 90% of the clips I buy are shoeplay. I like sites with variety, but shoeplay is important to me. I have contacted models in the past for custom shoe play clips and some of them have produced some amazing work.

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quote:
Originally posted by goodguyneighbor:
Content is cheap, but the best stuff is always in demand.

Many sites have shut down, and many sites were never very good to begin with.

There are more and more sites than ever online these days; no surprise not all can compete.

Consumers expect real value for their money these days.

The days of webmasters charging full price for a few dozen models, or once a week updates are gone.

Excellent points. Quality will get my money a lot of boring content.

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Scotty, this is not a personal attack man, so don't take it as such. I have nothing against you nor any animosity. But the thing that really pissed me off was you saying "If you don't like it, find another career that pays.", which makes no sense to me.

Good Guy Neighbor, I agree, some sites just don't know how to market themselves or they are sooo scared to trade links, which I have never understood. And why many of them fail. They have no networking. This is in every niche though and yes, they do tend to get "recycled out" Even more so, imho with this current economic climate.
But I have still never seen this many sites just closing up shop and I have been indexing sites since 2003. I don't think that there are a glut of new ones coming out either.

Patrick, your respected here, I don't think that you have anything to worry about as far as people making judgements over your "commitment" to the discipline imho. You've had that domain since what, 2004? I do agree you have to have quality. I think that most of us can tell whether or not the person shooting for a site has a real passion for it or not. Imho, that is why Big Mainstream Porno Houses that do foot sites usually do not do well. They have no passion for it. No love really for the beauty of the female foot. Or know how powerful it is. Just had a HUGE conversation on GFY about this.

Tyler, I agree. I am on many boards and very FEW boards are out there, with the exception of our pantyhose and nylon cousins, that have paysites and surfers just kicking it together. One of the many reasons I love the shit out of the Foot Fetish Community. Look, I have no problem with people checking out my free stuff. I have a TON of it. The issue I have with this whole thing is uploading members areas to .rar, torrents or tubes. Trading passwords and blatant shit like that. I put out so all these teasers, etc, because I know the vast majority of my peers will just dig it or dig the angles or the shots. I am not stingy with my content, it's the blatant stuff that bugs me.

bremmer thanks for the compliment, I appreciate it [Smile]

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Well said on all counts, Beautifulfeetonline.com. I've been asked quite often why I would ever pay for any kind of foot fetish content when there is so much free stuff on the Internet, and my response is simple. I want to support the efforts of the providers I most enjoy. Even people who enjoy their jobs want to get paid for doing them. I get plenty of free custom stuff and "surprises" from girls I've known for a while and with whom I interact beyond the web, but even then i try to be careful not to take advantage of them.

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quote:
Originally posted by jammasterjay:
I can't believe that many people still pay for porn, when there is so much out there for free. Everything you want, from every source you want.

I couldn't agree more! YES--I still pay for a small % of jack off material, I still buy DVDs! (depending on the pornstar) but I also spend a great deal of time on footfetishtube and xHamster.com--both are free. [Big Grin]

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quote:
Originally posted by Weekend_Warrior:
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Originally posted by jammasterjay:
I can't believe that many people still pay for porn, when there is so much out there for free. Everything you want, from every source you want.

I couldn't agree more! YES--I still pay for a small % of jack off material, I still buy DVDs! (depending on the pornstar) but I also spend a great deal of time on footfetishtube and xHamster.com--both are free. [Big Grin]
I would respectfully submit that if you pay for some material... and buy DVDs... you actually disagree.

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quote:
Originally posted by FIASCo:
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Originally posted by Weekend_Warrior:
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Originally posted by jammasterjay:
I can't believe that many people still pay for porn, when there is so much out there for free. Everything you want, from every source you want.

I couldn't agree more! YES--I still pay for a small % of jack off material, I still buy DVDs! (depending on the pornstar) but I also spend a great deal of time on footfetishtube and xHamster.com--both are free. [Big Grin]
I would respectfully submit that if you pay for some material... and buy DVDs... you actually disagree.
Hey, he's not "disagreeing", he's just being selective as to where he chooses to spend his money.

I'm the same way with music. I'll take an mp3 here and there online I don't feel is worthy of spending the bucks on, but the stuff I truley love and appreciate I'll actually go to the local cd outlet and fork over $15 or $20.

So am I wrong or am I right? Do I agree or disagree?

Aren't we all guilty of it? If anyone says they actually pay for every single pic, vid, mp3 they've downloaded from the internet they're a liar.

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