By the year 2017, do you feel that foot fetishes will....
Posted by You (Member # 2107) on :
i think everything will be as it is now...i wouldnt want it any different either
Posted by dirty foot man (Member # 9086) on :
With the way movies and tv and things like that I feel that the foot fetish will be more main stream than it is now.
Posted by beansfortheheart (Member # 25929) on :
yeah but its not like anything has changed. i mean i bet 100 years ago there were probably an equal percentage of people with foot fetishes. (although that would be interesting to find out for certain) i would like it if the weirdness associated with a foot fetish dissipated, but I doubt that will happen.
Posted by lamp (Member # 19270) on :
i think it has become way more mainstream. or at leat way more women realise that feet are sexy and it is much more common to see feet on show compared to say 10 years ago? which is a step in the right direction at least.
i feel quite special having a foot fetish. i wouldnt want it as normal as everyday sex but at the same time we could loose a lot of the weird stigma (but not all of it!) im quite fussy!
our weirdness is special,. dont let anyone tell us otherwise!
Posted by climax (Member # 6641) on :
we as people, as humans, as a society, in a way are ruled and controlled by one single thing, and thats the media. It can make people like or hate something, someone or an ideal etc. It can make things mainstream, popular, whether thats in a good light or bad.
The way i see it, the media aint goin nowhere, news reports about feet pervs will continue, the odd film or QT movie will touch on foot fetishism and more and more heads will turn.
There is no IF about it, foot fetishism WILL become mainstream, whether we want it to or not, the increase in media such as the news, programmes and sites like youtube which are filled with foot content will attract peoples attention to a point where everyone knows about it and its mainstream.
The only uncertanty is, WHEN it happens, are we going to be in a good light or a bad one?
Will we be able to be open about it, or will we be opening ourselves to ridicule.
The media can make us look like dirty pervy weirdos to be avoided, it can also put us in a good light as a harmless kink when compared to other interests out there.
I personally think it will be in the mainstream but at first a negative way open to ridicule and making fun of, during this phase, more and more programes, films, documentaries will cover and try to tackle the subject questioning if it is as bad as people think, this will make people think, during this stage, more celebs like QT and tommy Lee will come out, well respected ones, the fans will be assured that it aint so bad, also people are becoming more sexually experiemental these days so younger generations may try some of the things they see or have heard about, all of this will increase and eventually a possitive light as a whole in society, perhaps by 2017, maybe even before.
In short it will reach the possitive mainstream appeal in the end, but it needs to go through the skeptism, phobic, negativity and redicule phases that such comunities usually go through before acceptance is reached, similar to the gay comunity whom had to go through these phases aswell.
Posted by You (Member # 2107) on :
quote:Originally posted by climax: I personally think it will be in the mainstream but at first a negative way open to ridicule and making fun of, during this phase, more and more programes, films, documentaries will cover and try to tackle the subject questioning if it is as bad as people think, this will make people think, during this stage, more celebs like QT and tommy Lee will come out, well respected ones, the fans will be assured that it aint so bad, also people are becoming more sexually experiemental these days so younger generations may try some of the things they see or have heard about, all of this will increase and eventually a possitive light as a whole in society, perhaps by 2017, maybe even before.
In short it will reach the possitive mainstream appeal in the end, but it needs to go through the skeptism, phobic, negativity and redicule phases that such comunities usually go through before acceptance is reached, similar to the gay comunity whom had to go through these phases aswell.
that has been happening for quite some time, where have you been?
Posted by DaBootman (Member # 1280) on :
10 years ago was like 1997. I remember being in school and around town, i was like, 11. Still just as many girls barefoot then, with anklets and toerings, and polished toenails as there are today. Still wore sandals, still wore flipflops when the appropriate weather allowed for it. Some still liked them in the cooler weather too. The 80s it was the goofball knee high sweat socks, sweat pants, blah blah. Fads change, turn ons, however will not. I doubt the percentage of people who find feet sexy will go up, and if so only by a population increase (inevitable) To be more widely accepted follows the same rule.
How ever, there are going to be just as many people who don't like it. The same way many people don't like anal sex vs the amount who do, or those that participate in it. Or any other sexual "fetish". It's not going to go "mainstream" there's not going to be any big huge articles, or news reports asides from the strange ones with people dicking us guys over. And so do rapists, they make the same bad name for males as do foot fetish related weirdo's committing unwanted acts.
There will always be the handful of us here and there that enjoy them to the extreme of a "Fetish" or sexual desire, others who will just merely admire, and those who still think feet are disgusting. It's not gonna change. And the only difference between now and 10 years ago is that the internet has become more affordable and available to people, so communication efforts have been eased and made much easier for like interests to be discussed in an open forum such as the one we're on now. Asides from those changes, most people will continue to be ignorant entirely about most of our desires for feet until one of us educates them.
That's my 2 pennies.
Posted by Tyler D. (Member # 11452) on :
quote:Originally posted by beansfortheheart: i mean i bet 100 years ago there were probably an equal percentage of people with foot fetishes.
I'm betting more attention and proliferation of idea thru mediums such as the internet has probably increased the percentage.
i'd almost compare it to knowledge... as in... the greater access to concepts and ideas, the better, and subsequently more people can discover and know of something they may have otherwise never known w/o the proliferation.
Posted by DaBootman (Member # 1280) on :
If the attention and proliferation of ideas through mediums such as the internet DID infact increase the percentage of people with a foot fetish, wouldn't that make it just another trend? I really am a firm believer that you don't need to read about something, or have information on it to know that you like it, are turned on by it.
I do know reading more about certain things makes you like them more, or less, and the more information you have the better it is to make the decision. But when it comes to what gets your motor going, i can't believe in the slightest you would need to read about it somewhere or otherwise you would never know about it.
IF ya didn't know you were attracted to feet before ya found a foot fetish website, or that the site of feet turned you on before you read about it, wouldn't that almost make you a poser? Just my thoughts.
Posted by Tyler D. (Member # 11452) on :
quote:Originally posted by DaBootman: If the attention and proliferation of ideas through mediums such as the internet DID infact increase the percentage of people with a foot fetish, wouldn't that make it just another trend?
trend? not IMO, because sexually converted influence tends to have a much longer effect
quote:Originally posted by DaBootman: I really am a firm believer that you don't need to read about something, or have information on it to know that you like it, are turned on by it.
how bout merely being exposed to something? Does not necessarily mean you have to read about it or recieve information on it. In our case, you just need some provactive imagery to get an open minded root ready for corruption. How much more of that provacative exposure was around during the "Golden Age" than nowadays?
I mean, think about it... in order to even have a foot fetish in the 1st place, you had to be exposed to something that caused it. Exposure is definitely on the increase in this day and age.
quote:Originally posted by DaBootman: IF ya didn't know you were attracted to feet before ya found a foot fetish website, or that the site of feet turned you on before you read about it, wouldn't that almost make you a poser?
I think it's possible for people to have "shifting sexual interests". many people can grow into sexual ideas and their interests can subsequently evolve over the course of a person's life (outside of adolescence too).
here's a poll that substantiates that to some degree.
For me personally, I never knew how much I liked footsniffing til well after I kept reading about it from a bunch of sickos on the internet. Now I've shifted my sexual interest to become a footsniffing addict well into my adulthood.
That's not to say that similarly aligned genres (BDSM, femdom, trampling, humiliation, hand fetish, etc) couldn't also have a recruiting effect as far as creating a shifted interest with provacative exposure to new ideas.
I'd say the closer related to one's original interest, the higher probability in the shift (or addition to one's kinks that they personally enjoy). But that's not to say that alignment probability even has to play a part. Some could go from missionary sex lovers to feet play just thru experimentation. Less proliferation of ideas meant less experimentation back then.
And unless you're like me and believe that human's do not have the creative propensity to come up with every angle of an idea on their own during the course of a lifetime, then you might agree that modern times make a difference in our exposure to unimaginable ideas which can have an effect on our sexual interests.
There's already mainstream studies showing the increase of how porn is corrupting marriages. That is definitely a sexual change as a result of our over-exposed times.
[ August 30, 2007, 07:10 PM: Message edited by: Tyler D. ]
Posted by DaBootman (Member # 1280) on :
Permanent sexual influence being what? The internet and variety of material on it available? That being considered permanent would only be so permanent if the person decided to revisit these sites for information, pics, etc. IMO permanent would be something affixed to your every day lifestyle, and in that you would have had an interest in something of that variety already to have pursued it that far in making it permanent. If ya could, try to clear me up on that. I think what you're saying, or atleast how i see it, is that it has made it easier for people already with the fetish to be accepting of it with themselves and more open to others about it.
So far as being exposed to something goes, alot of people are exposed to plenty of drugs on a daily basis. To say they were addicts before they picked one up and began a habit with it, is a different story (this may prove your point pretty well) But to say some proactive imagery is all that is needed to start a root for corruption? So would be seeing a bare foot girl with or without the proactive situation. The mind tells you what you find attractive and the body reacts as such. So just simply seeing something happening to a pair of feet wouldn't necessarily promote fetishism. There were still magazines, but again we all agree the internet and other forms of communication have made communicating the fetish and sharing these images and what not easier. In that linking others of the same likes and interests together from a farther distance. SO we just now know there were alot more of us than we once thought.
I don't really see how that poll proves a whole lot, it shows from under 12 the whole way through the age of 19 to be rather increasingly and should be, as that's when most discover what they like and would like to keep around in their sexual desires (this one foot fetishes in particular) but to say guys foot fetishes started at the age of 48 or older? They may have taken an active interest in them, or perhaps stopped neglecting them and accepted them as a part of the body, but i highly doubt that made them fetishists. I also believe they may have just became accepting of them at that age as well, perhaps came out of denial?
All i'm simply saying is that you can take interest in things you never knew before through information, and exposure, but i feel that what turns you on mostly would be something you already knew and never experienced. And if the proactive material itself has sparked an interest, it's just because you haven't had the chance to experience it yet.
Me for instance, i knew i liked feet, they turned me on since i could remember, but as for anything to do with them to satisfy my desire for them? I had no idea until i discovered some of the sites on line, or in magazines depicting footjobs, foot worship, etc. I always enjoyed the sight of and massaging feet, i knew i enjoyed the way they smelled, even feeling the want to kiss them but not knowing how well accepted it would be with a girl(until my first girlfriend at age 14 and i hadn't discovered foot fetish porn until a month or so after we dated). But i never knew the entire things i could enjoy with them until having seen them done. So i guess i can see some of the points, but i don't entirely agree.
But also in the same token, i've been with girls and exploring my fetish with them and bringing them into the world of feet, they have said they enjoy the attention their feet get and would be more conscious of their feet from now on. But asides from just keeping them in good shape, i've never known one to find any other guy and try to mold him into a "foot guy" and by no means have i turned any of them into foot fetishes. So i really don't see how you can just develop a fetish. To me it's natural, just like some people say they were born gay and knew it the whole time but managed to have kids and a marriage.
Sorry for the long winded response
Posted by Tyler D. (Member # 11452) on :
quote:Originally posted by DaBootman: Permanent sexual influence being what?
in plain terms, "converting to foot fetish"
quote:Originally posted by DaBootman: I don't really see how that poll proves a whole lot
shows that sexual interests can still form beyond adolescence (even for a sexual interest such as foot fetish which is notoriously known for being formed at a young age).
quote:Originally posted by DaBootman: All i'm simply saying is that you can take interest in things you never knew before through information, and exposure, but i feel that what turns you on mostly would be something you already knew and never experienced. And if the proactive material itself has sparked an interest, it's just because you haven't had the chance to experience it yet.
Well, if you didn't know it then you didn't know it. Whether it enhances what was never there, or creates it, I think the effect is the same. Exposure led to one more notch on the bedpost of whoever was keeping track, LOL
quote:Originally posted by DaBootman: So i really don't see how you can just develop a fetish
then maybe you can explain how you got yours or how many of us here got ours
It's as natural as the events that sparked it during an impressionable time in your life. For many that means in the younger years. My take is that greater exposure has the effect of tainting more people during thier sexually impressionable times in life, be it thier younger years AND/OR older years. As to the likely effect on the respective years, well we kinda already know the answer to it's shaping effectiveness but nonetheless, the greater exposure still exists for the impressionable onlookers primed for sexual influence (older or younger).
[ August 30, 2007, 07:28 PM: Message edited by: Tyler D. ]
Posted by DaBootman (Member # 1280) on :
While not being able to explain how we got our foot fetishes, some people believe it's something we're born with, others of us believe its due to exposure at an impressionable age. I can't explain how we got ours, i'm almost a firm believer we're born this way. I always knew i liked feet, but never knew why, and found out there was an actual fetish category after i was checkin alot of bondage websites searchin for feet bound together because i liked the look of the soles together. I knew it was the feet i was attracted to, however i did not know it was a fetish for feet that i had. Since then i've pretty much gotten away from the whole female bondage situation and enjoyed the more dominate side of the foot fetish world, worshipping the feet of many beautiful girls.
So as for sexual tendencies changing and evolving or progressing into others, i can agree entirely. But the hard wiring and how and why we have our fetishes i still don't know. I do agree though that our tendencies change over time, with age and experiences, as well do our preferences for alot of things. So exposure to new material, or ideas can help shape the tendencies and such around the fetish, and perhaps help develop one. But I still do believe we were born with it. I don't know that you can convert somebody into a foot fetishist that's not open minded enough to accept it though. Some people are entirely too closed minded to accept most things, the idea of liking feet, or any other not so normal idea/body part. But there have been times and i'm sure you tyler have experienced this, where a girl is completely against the attention to her feet, and with the proper time and her experiencing it with you may began and usually do begin to realize what they'd been missing. They do eventually learn to enjoy it, for any number of mental, physical, or both reasons all together. And i do guess some become pretty hardcore about it, but i think alot of it all still stems from a general interest inside of that person whether they admit to themselves or the people around them or not.
I like this discussion, thanks for clearin some of that up Tyler. You da man.
Edit: Quick question about the converting one to a foot fetish, and the permanent sexual influence. The permanent sexual influence coming from a boyfriend/girlfriend SO type of situation?
Posted by Tyler D. (Member # 11452) on :
^ yeah, I guess there can be two trains of thought on fetishes... one is that they're genetic kinda like one philosophy on homosexuality (as in being born with it).
Me personally, I'm believe they are non-genetic and influenced thru combinations of experiences in life. That belief was the basis for my opinions earlier.
I do get what you're saying about how some girls can be made open minded to it by a boyfriend thru greater exposure... and I think that lines up with a point you made earlier where some people may be open to the idea but not truly fetishists. I think that case resides often times with boyfriends who talk their girlfriends into "putting up with it" for lack of better term.
I think those type of scenarios where people are merely openminded to it or just accepting of it is far different from a foot fetish convert. I'd consider a foot fetish convert someone who previously was not turned on by feet, but at some point later is genuinely turned on by feet.
Going back to your point again about genetics vs. environmental stimulation, if the belief about genetics predispositions people to either have or not have the fetish then this whole conversion idea of course does not apply. But I'm not a personal believer in the genetic theory so I think it is possible for people to convert to foot fetish. And I think greater probability is there when they are coming from more congruent genres, ie BDSM, etc...
Thx for the great good food for thought in these discussions DaBootman! Posted by DaBootman (Member # 1280) on :
Anytime Tyler, i enjoy these types of conversations.
I don't ENTIRELY agree with the fact we're born with it, but i don't entirely agree that things come from the surroundings/environment. Because i honestly can't remember a time in my life when i was any younger seeing a womans feet. I mean, my mother always went barefoot, she now knows of my fetish and she says i used to always be semi near or playing around her feet, but i still don't understand how it could turn into a sexual fascination if not exposed sexually to it. But in my early teens i can remember just the sight of some bare soles got me rock solid, and even before then. The one clip somebody posted a while back said that the feet/genital receptors are very close in the brain, like neighbors i believe, and some of us may have a crossed signal/firing thinger going on in our brains that causes the arousal. I'm sure we could find it somewhere on youtube, it was a discovery channel deal.
My daughter's only 16 months old, she plays alot with her own feet (chews her toes grabs them plays around with them) but i often hear of her touching her mothers (we're no longer together) but mainly biting (playful type of way not tryin to hurt anybody) at hers. And it just makes me wander if perhaps it's curiosity in a young childs mind that makes them want to touch feel (the whole monkey see monkey do scenario) and if perhaps it's something we've just never moved on from, and in that lack of moving forward in our own brain/mental development we formed into a female foot fetish just so we're not checking out other guys feet?? I know i've never been into other guys feet at all, but it may be just the proper alignment in the fact we're heterosexual and what we find attractive is all on a woman.
And in all that is why i feel so strongly that we are born with it, whether it be genetic, temperament, what have you...Rather than the surroundings and environmental setting. Though what i stated about my mother and how she explained what i was like as a we bitty bootman stands to reason in the line of the surroundings idea. But as i used the drug addiction reference, it would stand to reason that after having been exposed to watching people do drugs over and over again they would eventually fall into a drug habit of their own at some point (in which most cases some will) but alot of people still refuse to touch them or get into contact with them, sometimes so much they might even relocate themselves.
As you say the greater probability coming from congruent genres you mean that they would be more likely to convert into foot fetishists? And in that, could it just perhaps be people are just into fetish sex lifestyles as well? And also inside of that, it would make it easier and stand to reason the surroundings make it more openly accepted and easier to fall into as a genuine thing rather to as you put it "put up with it". But what about BDSM, Bondage,etc? Do most of these people come from a violent and bad childhood, or lead mean horrible lives on the streets as well as the scenarios they play out in their kinky sessions behind closed doors? Did these people grow up in a dungeon? (that ones a little extreme) Or could those who like the damsel in distress notion be that they were controlled by a woman most of their lives and that they want to be the one in control, or to make the rescue, etc?
And as well as the genetic theory, wouldn't that mean it's passed down? Or if like in the discovery channel deal they had, is it a birth "defect" as in perhaps your brain isn't fully developed, or perhaps over developed in some areas? I'd like to say over developed, look at the damn lengthy conversations we get into here. We've got quite some theories going on.
I can't believe this has gone on as long as it has, great discussion! Posted by feetluvr (Member # 1570) on :
quote:Originally posted by DaBootman: If the attention and proliferation of ideas through mediums such as the internet DID infact increase the percentage of people with a foot fetish, wouldn't that make it just another trend? I really am a firm believer that you don't need to read about something, or have information on it to know that you like it, are turned on by it.
I do know reading more about certain things makes you like them more, or less, and the more information you have the better it is to make the decision. But when it comes to what gets your motor going, i can't believe in the slightest you would need to read about it somewhere or otherwise you would never know about it.
IF ya didn't know you were attracted to feet before ya found a foot fetish website, or that the site of feet turned you on before you read about it, wouldn't that almost make you a poser? Just my thoughts.
I believe that what you're saying is true. However to take it step further in answering what's going to happen in the future- what's one huge thing that this forum encourages? It's for us as footguys to open up and share our interests with others, particularly our SO's. Assuming that this is happening at an ever increasing rate as guys find forums like this on the internet, more women are going to become familiar with it and more friends and family will become aware of it. This combined with the ever increasing exposure that barefeet get in the media I think will lead to an ever increasing acceptance of foot appreciation and those that have a foot fetish. It's probably not going to happen quickly because we as footguys (for the most part) are not shoving it down people's throats and don't have the advocates out there arguing for us and promoting us "coming out" like the gay community for instance. Were that the case, things would move along much more quickly.
Posted by DaBootman (Member # 1280) on :
Assuming that it's happening at an ever increasing rate. That's assuming, where's there proof or anything tracking these numbers that aren't already foot fetish biased? Such as tylers poll on feetcore...We know the guys and girls voting there are already into feet, hence the gearing of the questions.
I personally think it was just something and still is to most people that they kept between themselves and their SO. It's just whether or not you're too ashamed to admit it and how long it is before you do. The same with other sexual interests, and ideas. And sex in general. Some wait until the relationships established, others feel it's just sex they're interested in and that's what they're trying for the most.
As for "Barefeet in the media" and "Foot fetish going mainstream" It's not a record label, or music style, it's something considered by us sexual. I don't think there's much in media as is about sex, and if you pay enough attention to any star, glamour, or what ever other magazines and fashion shows there are around, you'll find shoes are still one of the big deals in those things. I can't remember the last time i turned on the television and heard a show on basic cable about directly sex. Or Breasts and how they turn men on, or legs, or ass. There's plenty of our own fetish films available, as well as internet sites to visit. It's the people who hide it and think of worst case scenarios that make either harder, or just think it's some hidden or forbidden fetish that's completely unaccepted by most people.
As i've said and many have. Everything is how you present it. If you hide your fetish like you would a dead body in the closet, then of course you'll think the rest of the world does the same, or won't accept it. You just don't know how accepted it is among people, and if they don't embrace it, it doesn't mean they hate you for it, or the idea of it and that it makes you some sort of freak. I really don't think that anything has changed in the past few decades that substantiates this thing going "main stream". Of course technology will get better, become more advanced, there will be more videos, models come and go, ideas and new things to try. But lets face it, it's really not going be a "trend" or "fad" or something "cool" unless it's cool to you and the people you associate yourselves with. And if the people you know now can't accept it and hassle you about it, then ya need a new group of people imo. Every single person that knows me as a friend or relative for that matter knows i have a foot fetish. It gets me more feet, and the chances at more, and more good looking ones pointed out to me on a daily basis. I hear from friends girlfriends that it's either cool, or perhaps weird, maybe not even something they'd be interested in trying, but that's it. And ya shake it off just like the rest of the shit that's thrown at you through daily life.
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