Yes, let's pretend that the women on those sites are all nasty people. Yes, terrible personalities. All of them.
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quote:^^^THIS
Originally posted by combine_hunter:
At this point, I'll take what I can get, honestly.
quote:I agree.
Originally posted by MrSoleLvr:
WOW 'DSW' kinda ran with that one didn't you!?? All i think that 'womansfeetlover' was saying is that in general was if there is a hot girl and she has not so great feet they may not be as attractive, and if there is a girl who isn't that attractive and has great feet she may get more consideration because of that....have done it myself lol nothing to do with any of the websites you mentioned!
Yes there are plenty of hot women with great feet as well! My g/f is one of them!
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quote:Let me start with the last paragraph you put there. Yes, you're right with what you said there. Now had someone said that earlier, then I wouldn't have come in here and said what I had to say. But that's not what happened. Instead what we had were men coming in here and saying things about hot women, none of it were good. Up until I said anything, no one acknowledged that hot girls actually have hot feet.
Originally posted by MrSoleLvr:
WOW 'DSW' kinda ran with that one didn't you!?? All i think that 'womansfeetlover' was saying is that in general was if there is a hot girl and she has not so great feet they may not be as attractive, and if there is a girl who isn't that attractive and has great feet she may get more consideration because of that....have done it myself lol nothing to do with any of the websites you mentioned!
Yes there are plenty of hot women with great feet as well! My g/f is one of them!
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Originally posted by bluetoelover:
I'm with DSW on this one
quote:Right on!
Originally posted by cbuckbomb:
I can appreciate the feet, but if you are overweight or unattractive it's not happening. Pretty feet can make an average woman attractive, but they can't make me attracted to just anybody.
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quote:No one actually said any such thing. If so, point him/her/them out. What has been said is that personality is important to the point that even if she has great feet if her personality is bad its still a no go. No one said "all" anything except you.
Originally posted by DSW:
I cannot believe some of the stuff I'm reading in here. Are you serious? You guys make it sound like all the women who have terrible personalities or whatever just happen to be the hot ones.
quote:No, they MADE it sound like a possibility, not the norm.
You guys make it sound like that the hot women are the ones with terrible feet and the women who are 6 or below on the hotness scale are the ones with the hottest feet walking the face of the planet.
quote:Whoa, really? And all this time I thought it went without saying. If only that's what this thread was about, though.
Trust me, there are hot chicks with hot feet.
quote:Still don't see who said otherwise. Did they delete their post?
A lot more than what you think. A lot more than you think. Trust me. And guess what? There are chicks who are not that hot with feet that are not that hot. I know that's hard to believe, folks, but it's true.
quote:Not sure what you're getting at here. In those sites we can see the women's feet, its not a matter of judging them on everything else, dating them, and then later finding out their feet are busted.
Yes, let's all pretend and forget that sites like these don't exsist:
http://californiabeachfeet.com/
http://feetjeans.com/
You mean to tell me that you will reject women from those sites just to be with some homely chick who has some "great" feet?
quote:Which makes your screed all the more confusing. Especially when you follow that up with this:
Yes, I put great in quotation marks because what your definition of great feet can be unappealing to the next person.
quote:Who are you to judge someone for what they like? You act like your standard of beauty is the only one that counts and those who don't pattern themselves after this shouldn't be taken seriously. What makes you so special that anyone should take YOU seriously after saying that?
I would like to think that we all like great looking feet, but there are guys in here who think that BBW feet or feet with long toenails are the greatest things since sliced bread. I can't take those guys seriously.
quote:Now you're moving goalposts. The op wasn't talking about a choice between several options.
You mean to tell me that you will reject the girls from the sites I mentioned because some lesser looking girl has a better personality because the two of you have two more things in common than with the girl who's pretty cute or hot?
quote:No one said anything remotely like that. WTF.
Yes, let's pretend that attractive women are all evil with nefarious motives on hot to back stab you while all the other girls who are not as cute are all sweet angels and who can do no wrong.
quote:Likewise. Sounds like you been holding this tirade in for a while, and nevermind it didn't fit the topic you simply had to let it out anyway.
You guys have got to be kidding me.
quote:You are projecting. No one said that. The only one using superlatives here is you.
Yes, let's pretend that the women on those sites are all nasty people. Yes, terrible personalities. All of them.
quote:These two paragraphs seem to contradict the majority of your rant, as this is what we have actually been discussing. No one used broad generalizations like you claimed, in fact the opposite was said, she could be just as nice as can be, perfect personality and everything, but with messed up feet, its a wrap. Silly me I thought the point was to not feel guilty about that. You seemed to take it as a rant against women in general which only seemed to actually happen in your head.
I mean for any of us, we ALL would reject a girl with ugly feet no matter how she looks like. There are average looking girls with not so nice feet, too. You would reject her for a better looking girl with better feet. Truth be told.
If she's a sweet girl with feet that are a 10, then that's one thing. But if that girl's face looks like Jobba the Hut's or the wicked witch of the west, then it's not happening.
quote:Just so I'm understanding this correctly...because someone didn't say something that painfully obvious (that acknowledgement you felt was missing), you assumed it was because everyone felt the OPPOSITE was true? Cause no one came in this thread telling lies about hot women. I'm still not sure where that came from.
Originally posted by DSW:
quote:Let me start with the last paragraph you put there. Yes, you're right with what you said there. Now had someone said that earlier, then I wouldn't have come in here and said what I had to say. But that's not what happened.
Originally posted by MrSoleLvr:
WOW 'DSW' kinda ran with that one didn't you!?? All i think that 'womansfeetlover' was saying is that in general was if there is a hot girl and she has not so great feet they may not be as attractive, and if there is a girl who isn't that attractive and has great feet she may get more consideration because of that....have done it myself lol nothing to do with any of the websites you mentioned!
Yes there are plenty of hot women with great feet as well! My g/f is one of them!
Instead what we had were men coming in here and saying things about hot women, none of it were good. Up until I said anything, no one acknowledged that hot girls actually have hot feet.
quote:You and that judgement again. People can decide what they like or don't like without running it past you first.
Listen, NO ONE wants a girl with ugly feet. That includes men who are not foot fetishists. This doesn't say anything special about us. The sad part is that there are men who are into ugly feet. Feet that they think are hot but at the same time are not appealing to a lot of other men. It makes no sense to say something about rejecting a hot girl if the not so attractive girl has "nice" feet, and then when I see the feet in question, I find out that her feet are ugly.
quote:No one said otherwise. This can't be said enough. NO ONE SAID OTHERWISE. You're acting like that was all this thread was about until your arrival.
The websites I posted had nothing to do with this conversation because the topic wasn't asking for opinions on those sites or something along those lines. I understand that. But at the same time it had everything to do with this because I was illustrating my point that there are plenty of hot girls out there with hot feet.
quote:Duh.
There are more hot girls with hot feet than there are so-so looking women with attractive feet.
quote:And now you're making stuff up. "These guys", what guys?
And notice how these guys say that if the hot girls have terrible personalities that they'll go over to the fat and uglies.
quote:Also, again, the op didn't specify a selection amongst several choices. If you want to bring that up NOW and discuss it, okay, but to act like it was brought up and dismissed out of hand is just you making stuff up again.
Again, in case anyone has missed what I just said, the fat women and those who are not that hot (or less attractive than cute girls) will get consideration ONLY if the hot girls have terrible personalities. In other words, if these guys got along with more attractive women, the fat and unappealing chicks are doomed!
quote:"These guys". Right.
If a hot girl had hot feet and and someone who's not that appealing had feet that are just as unappealing, you're choosing the hot girls. Don't lie. So conveinent that these guys leave that part of it out of the conversation. Right?
quote:...what? What got this thread going in the first place was the op saying what if a girl was ugly but had nice feet, they would look at them differently. Ugly feet are ugly feet regardless of the body they're attached to. If you want to bring up equivalencies, okay, but that wasn't brought up before and no one came to that bizarre conclusion you just did.
I think what it is is that if a hot girl has ugly feet, they won't take her (and rightfully so). But if the same feet belong to some girl who's not that attractive, they won't mind getting with her because the rest of the body is consistent with her not-so-special feet.
quote:No one assumed otherwise. Great soapbox, wrong thread.
I'm here to say that hot girls (for the most part) have better looking feet than overweight women and women who are no higher than a 6 on a scale of 1-10.
quote:Probably cause no one felt they HAD to cause it went without saying.
Since no one made mention of that before I said anything, I had to say something about it.
quote:No, no, it really didn't, actually.
No one gave cute or hot girls credit because they think that women who don't get hit on as much by men don't have any flaws whatsoever in their personalities. But if you have fun with these hotties, I'll bet anything that you won't be complaining about how shitty their personalities are.
This had to be said.
quote:Right, and can I borrow the DeLorean next? I want to see the future, too.
If I had not said anything to begin with, we would have more guys coming in here with comments talking smack about how hot girls are not as good as we think they are.
quote:I'll point them out in minute. But first, people are making this huge deal about the girl's personality. Let's remember, the heading of the topic is about finding women attractive ... just because of the feet. Nothing about personality. It was everyone else who brought the personality concept into the conversation as a way of making the fatties and the less attractive feel as if they're worth something, too. That's why they talk about personality. Again, I'll show examples of that in a minute or two.
Originally posted by canIsmellYourFeet:
No one actually said any such thing. If so, point him/her/them out. What has been said is that personality is important to the point that even if she has great feet if her personality is bad its still a no go. No one said "all" anything except you.
quote:No, they made it sound like more than a possibility - they made it sound like more of a probablity.
Originally posted by canIsmellYourFeet:
No, they MADE it sound like a possibility, not the norm.
quote:Glad to see that I'm not the only one who thinks that.
Originally posted by womensfeetlover:
Whoa, really? And all this time I thought it went without saying.
quote:Again, going back to what I said, people are making it sound as if hot women don't have hot feet and/or they don't have personalities that can match women who are cute or hot. Let's get to the examples because I think you only read your own posts and no one else's.
Originally posted by womensfeetlover:
Still don't see who said otherwise. Did they delete their post?
quote:Go back to what I said originally to see where I was getting at there. In those sites we can see their feet. The OP of this thread did not want to make judgements on anything else. BUT...everyone else did. Everyone else jumped right in and talked about dating them and this personality bullshit. And yes, the people in here made judgements. Go back two or three paragraphs to see what I'm talking about.
Originally posted by womensfeetlover:
Not sure what you're getting at here. In those sites we can see the women's feet, its not a matter of judging them on everything else, dating them, and then later finding out their feet are busted.
quote:To answer the first question, I'm the father you never had. I'm being serious when I say that. But more to the point, the kind of feet I like should the the ideal that all men should like. Feet like Eva Mendes, Irina Shayk, Jessica Lowndes, Kate Beckinsale. If you don't agree with that, then I shouldn't take you seriously. If someone else came in here and said that feet with long toenails, feet that are fat, feet with chunky toes are hotter than the ones from the women I just mentioned, who do you think makes better sense? Let's not kid ourselves: feet from the first set of women ARE the ideal compared to the latter set of descriptions of what other foot fetish guys think are the standard of beauty. Hope that answers the second question you asked.
Originally posted by womensfeetlover:
Who are you to judge someone for what they like? You act like your standard of beauty is the only one that counts and those who don't pattern themselves after this shouldn't be taken seriously. What makes you so special that anyone should take YOU seriously after saying that?
quote:No, but other people were.
Originally posted by womensfeetlover:
Now you're moving goalposts. The op wasn't talking about a choice between several options.
quote:Not in this thread they didn't. What we had were people not giving credit to the more attractive women so much that they might've well have said that. In fact, there were other topics posted in the past where the topic was about overweight women and women who were slim. The poeple in there were making hot women synonymous with being very bitchy and how that should be the reason why you should go with the fatter/not as attractive women.
Originally posted by womensfeetlover:
No one said anything remotely like that. WTF.
quote:By the time I came in here, the conversation was already out of topic. Again, see the examples I posted before.
Originally posted by womensfeetlover:
Sounds like you been holding this tirade in for a while, and nevermind it didn't fit the topic you simply had to let it out anyway.
quote:All I saw were statements from people saying things along the lines of, "She might be hot. But if the personality is not there, then forget about it." That's not projecting? Perhaps you should pick on them, too. Again, notice how they said that they will go to the less attractive girls ONLY IF the personality is terrible. In other words, the fatties and the less attractive girls were NEVER their first choices. No one ever mentions what would happen if the girl with the ugly face had a terrible personality, leading all of us to believe that they are the only types of women with wonderful personalities.
Originally posted by womensfeetlover:
[QB] You are projecting. No one said that. The only one using superlatives here is you.
quote:This thread should've gotten one response because the answer should be that cut and dry. The reason it didn't stay at one response is because there are mental defectives in this world. Thank the lord I'm not one of them. Shallow? Maybe. A mental defective? Nope.
I mean for any of us, we ALL would reject a girl with ugly feet no matter how she looks like. There are average looking girls with not so nice feet, too. You would reject her for a better looking girl with better feet. Truth be told.
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As to your last paragraph, mileage varies per person. Plenty of guys would do just that, plenty of guys would say "eh, I'll put a bag over her head or pretend or something." You can't say what people will do unequivocally in this situation because everyone is different. Heck that's another purpose of this thread, because if the answer was so obvious and clear cut the thread would have got maybe one response then got buried by other popular threads.
quote:Ha! I've learned to stop feeling guilty about being a dude a loooooooong time ago.
Originally posted by canIsmellYourFeet:
Guys, don't feel guilty about this.
quote:How so?
Originally posted by combine_hunter:
DSW, you're still making false inferences.
The key phrase is "people are making it sound like"; once you say that, anything you say afterward is basically just your opinion of what others in the thread are saying. And you're wrong at every turn.
quote:Because everyone else was insenstive towards them or not giving them enough credit. The accolades went to the women who are 5s and 6s.
Originally posted by combine_hunter:
I don't know why you're so sensitive about hot girls.
quote:Oh, so when people twist the situations and stipulations and scenarios around to leave us no choice but to pick the fatties and the less attractive women, that's not twisting words to suit their own purpose? So it's okay to dismiss hot women because they have a "personality defect" and not okay when someone else comes in one their defense? Nice.
Originally posted by combine_hunter:
Honestly, they don't need any of us defending them. And any potential "witch hunt" you see against them by people posting here is a product of you twisting their words to suit your own purpose.
quote:Good. Maybe you'll learn some valuable lessons.
Originally posted by combine_hunter:
That said, I'm not opposed to you continuing to post in this manner.
quote:That's lovely.
Originally posted by combine_hunter:
"canIsmellYourFeet" will successfully rebut you again and again, and I will laugh my ass off reading his replies.
quote:Okay, if you insist: Everyone wins except you.
Originally posted by combine_hunter:
So everybody wins.
Except you, of course.
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quote:Exactly it’s a superficial thread, not an indictment of hotties nor putting fat women on pedestals. So, with you so far...
Originally posted by DSW:
quote:I'll point them out in minute. But first, people are making this huge deal about the girl's personality. Let's remember, the heading of the topic is about finding women attractive ... just because of the feet. Nothing about personality.
Originally posted by canIsmellYourFeet:
No one actually said any such thing. If so, point him/her/them out. What has been said is that personality is important to the point that even if she has great feet if her personality is bad its still a no go. No one said "all" anything except you.
quote:And then you lost me. Who the eff is "making the fatties and less attractive feel as if they're worth something, too"? WTF, you keep changing the perimeters of the topic off of stuff in your head. Its not about making anyone feel good or bad, point blank it was about if anyone has seen a girl they didn't think much about (she could be plain, butt ugly, etc) but her having nice feet makes you look at her different. That's it. Period. You may not have noticed, but this is FEET site for people with fetishes that revolve around FEET. That is going to come into play when judging a woman, no different than when a guy judges a woman on her breast size or butt size or heck even height.
It was everyone else who brought the personality concept into the conversation as a way of making the fatties and the less attractive feel as if they're worth something, too. That's why they talk about personality. Again, I'll show examples of that in a minute or two.
quote:Except they didn't.
quote:No, they made it sound like more than a possibility - they made it sound like more of a probablity.
Originally posted by canIsmellYourFeet:
No, they MADE it sound like a possibility, not the norm.
quote:And yet here we are talking like its some secret only you are privy to. By the way, who’s womensfeetlover?
quote:Glad to see that I'm not the only one who thinks that.
Originally posted by womensfeetlover:
Whoa, really? And all this time I thought it went without saying.
quote:No I feel like I'm the only one actually doing any reading between the two of us. And don't pull that you don't agree because you don't understand nonsense. Your point is valid yet not applicable to what we’re talking about because no one made those snap judgments like you claimed.
quote:Again, going back to what I said, people are making it sound as if hot women don't have hot feet and/or they don't have personalities that can match women who are cute or hot. Let's get to the examples because I think you only read your own posts and no one else's.
Originally posted by womensfeetlover:
Still don't see who said otherwise. Did they delete their post?
quote:Uh huh. I see no such thing. Where are the modifiers “fat girls” in his comment? “Little to no hope”? Those are YOUR WORDS not his. He made sense the first time, and that’s why people who actually read his comment (i.e., not you), didn’t take issue with it. And surprise surprise, he was who I mentioned earlier when I said for some they take everything into account including personality. See, to everyone else but you, they took it as while feet are important (make or break), he also factors in personality. How in the eff did you get “come one come all fatties!” from that? Talk about non-sequiters, you took 2 and 2 and got 22.
Direct quotes from people before I came in here to post my first message in this topic:
1. "Yes, how a woman's feet look can make or break my opinion of her appearance. She could be sexy, but if her feet are unattractive then I won't be interested. But I also take personality into account."
*See, he's giving women who have little to no hope in attracting men some hope by essentially saying, "Don't worry, I'll choose you ONLY IF the hot girls have ugly feet." Right? He also brought in the personality factor. A girl's personality does not make a hot girl's feet less attractive. But for some weird reason, if the fat girls or the 7's and 6's have nice personalities, then magically her already-okay feet becomes very, very hot.
quote:Let me introduce you to a concept in English called, the subjunctive. It talks about what if scenarios, and as a sort of reminder, one of the triggers are…the word if. Second concept, the imperfect subjunctive, if/then scenarios. A perfect example of this is, “If I were a rich man, then I wouldn’t have to work hard”. Here, he used the imperfect subjunctive, “if she’s this, then that.” He actually answered what the thread was about, practically repeating it verbatim.
2. "If she is a beauty with bad feet, not so beautiful in my eyes. If she is average (or what some might say ugly or unattractive) but has great feet, she is the one I would rather be with - truth be told."
*Again, bashing the beauties and raising hope the hopes to the ones who are not as attractive. How conveinent that he left out that if the girl was HOT with hot feet, that he'll choose her over an average (or what some might say ugly or unattractive) girl with ugly or just okay feet - truth be told. But then in response to this, he might say that if the hot girl has a terrible personality, ONLY THEN would he go for the less attractive ones. Again, associating the beauties with nasty personalities and the lesser girls with great personalities.*
quote:I keep looking but I don’t see where he says there’s no such thing as hotties with good feet, or dismissing the idea of cuties or hotties are worth anything, as you put it. I do see more imperfect subjunctive, though (as in, not a statement of fact or making outrageous claims of truth). Still want to claim I’m not reading everyone else’s replies? On the contrary, I went over them with a fine tooth comb so to speak. If only you had done the same. And I did it to see if there was any merit to wtf you were talking about.
3. "Give me the plain looking girl with great feet over the beauty with bad looking feet. Also, if the plain looking chick is into giving footjobs, whereas the hottie wants no part of that action, I would much rather take the plain looking chick."
*Once again, dismissing the idea that cuties and hotties are worth anything. What if the beauties are into giving footjobs, whereas the plain looking girl wants no part of the action? Who would he much rather take? He might answer that question with, "The plain looking girl IF she has a nice personality." But what if the cute or hot girl had a great personality? "Um, yeah but..." Always looking for loopholes to diminish more attractive women. You'll always hear about if a hot girl has little personality. You'll never hear about how they'll pick the hot girl if the average or less attractive women had terrible personalities.
quote:And why would he have to preface his statements with that? If I talk about eating a hot dog, does that mean I never ate a hamburger? I swear if we hadn’t gotten this far I’d think this was a joke post on your reply.
4. "I seen ugly women with pretty feet and pretty women with ugly feet. A few decades ago I was dating this really, really pretty young lady but it was a while until I saw her feet. The day I saw her feet I was disapointed her feet was ugly. That was the end and my friend said, "I was crazy." However, they my friend laughed at me for dating a ugly girl with pretty feet."
What, no "I've seen hot women with hot feet and ugly women with ugly feet?" I'd laugh, too, if my friend was dating a 4 even if her feet were a 10.
quote:That’s weird, on my end I noticed he used “some” a lot. Now you thinking he should have phrased it a certain way, well, if you haven’t noticed I’m ascribing that as a personal problem you yourself have to work on. Or not, your choice.
5. "Not to sound rude but I've seen some ugly women with extremely sexy feet and approached them just because of that. The funny thing is that when they're not good looking but have really sexy feet that they show off all the time (even when the weather doesnt permit) with the ankle bracelet, freshly painted toenails and a fresh pedicure, flip flops, chances are they know what their best asset is. Some of the best footjobs I've had have come from women that I wouldnt have even given a second glance at had they not had on flip flops or something where I couldve seen their feet. They're usually not new to footjobs. Dont get me wrong, I've had some gorgeous ones that know what they're doing too, but when i look back, the average/not so good looking ones have 'em beat."
C'mon, now! If someone came in here and said the complete opposite, he'll get crucified. The better she looks, the better the footjobs. I know that there are hot women who show their feet when the weather doesn't permit with the ankle bracelet, freshly painted toenails and all that good stuff. But would ever come in and say that in their defense. I'll bet you.
quote:No I read it fine the first time. Thanks, though, really appreciate it all the same.
quote:Go back to what I said originally to see where I was getting at there.
Originally posted by womensfeetlover:
Not sure what you're getting at here. In those sites we can see the women's feet, its not a matter of judging them on everything else, dating them, and then later finding out their feet are busted.
quote:Well, based on your “proof” we can see, no, not every one did, they were answering the topic starter’s query.
In those sites we can see their feet. The OP of this thread did not want to make judgements on anything else. BUT...everyone else did. Everyone else jumped right in and talked about dating them and this personality bullshit. And yes, the people in here made judgements. Go back two or three paragraphs to see what I'm talking about.
quote:Well, “dad”, looks like I got my booksmarts from mom cause you do not seem to have even the most basic capacity God gave a field mouse to look at a body of work (this thread), analyze it, form a coherent opinion (key word coherent), and posit said opinion in any sort of fruitful manner. You cannot prove your own points and when confronted with that resort to moving goalposts, making things up wholesale, and strawmen. On top of that you got the nerve to be judgmental as if anyone should take your mindless babbling seriously. I have never seen you before around here, or perhaps everything else you talk about is so inane that I mentally overlook it as the nonsense it is. But from this thread and your responses therein I see that you are a troll, a boil on the ass of Wu and I look forward to the day a mod finally pops you.
quote:To answer the first question, I'm the father you never had. I'm being serious when I say that.
Originally posted by womensfeetlover:
Who are you to judge someone for what they like? You act like your standard of beauty is the only one that counts and those who don't pattern themselves after this shouldn't be taken seriously. What makes you so special that anyone should take YOU seriously after saying that?
quote:All irrelevant. Believe it or not, your sacrosanct ideals of what is beautiful aside, some guys think none of those women are attractive. And I’d wager they wouldn’t give a damn if you “didn’t take them seriously”, either.
But more to the point, the kind of feet I like should the the ideal that all men should like. Feet like Eva Mendes, Irina Shayk, Jessica Lowndes, Kate Beckinsale. If you don't agree with that, then I shouldn't take you seriously. If someone else came in here and said that feet with long toenails, feet that are fat, feet with chunky toes are hotter than the ones from the women I just mentioned, who do you think makes better sense? Let's not kid ourselves: feet from the first set of women ARE the ideal compared to the latter set of descriptions of what other foot fetish guys think are the standard of beauty.
quote:Let me introduce you to another concept called a rhetorical device. You usually see these in the form of a question, the well-known rhetorical question. When “asked”, the response is neither expected nor wanted, usually because the answer is already known. When I asked “who are you to judge?”, it was a rhetorical question because I already knew the answer: nobody. Nobody at all. And as such your opinions of who should and should not be taken seriously will be taken with the weight it deserves (i.e. none).
Hope that answers the second question you asked.
quote:Oh yeah! Except that's right, they weren't.
quote:No, but other people were.
Originally posted by womensfeetlover:
Now you're moving goalposts. The op wasn't talking about a choice between several options.
quote:If this weren’t so amusing I’d stop right here. But I knew if you ran your mouth long enough the truth would come out. Exactly, not in this thread, so either go TO the thread you’re talking about and respond, or create a thread of your own. Either would be ideal than the temper tantrum you’re throwing here. I knew it had to do with something you were holding in and instead of waiting for the right thread you vomit it all over this one.
quote:Not in this thread they didn't.
Originally posted by womensfeetlover:
No one said anything remotely like that. WTF.
quote:Not given credit by way of omission. Do I really have to explain for like the tenth time how idiotic that sounds?
What we had were people not giving credit to the more attractive women so much that they might've well have said that. In fact, there were other topics posted in the past where the topic was about overweight women and women who were slim. The poeple in there were making hot women synonymous with being very bitchy and how that should be the reason why you should go with the fatter/not as attractive women.
quote:Maybe the conversation between the folks in your head, but not in this thread. Your so-called “proof” was nothing more than a comprehension problem.
quote:By the time I came in here, the conversation was already out of topic. Again, see the examples I posted before.
Originally posted by womensfeetlover:
Sounds like you been holding this tirade in for a while, and nevermind it didn't fit the topic you simply had to let it out anyway.
quote:Why yes, yes it is, as well as an outright lie. Wasn’t your very first “proof” someone saying the opposite, from which you created a platform to say “See! He’s saying he’d give fatties a chance if they have a good personality!” You can’t even stay consistent within your own arguments, yet we should look to you as someone we’d care about if they take serious or not? Opps, almost forgot, that was rhetorical.
quote:All I saw were statements from people saying things along the lines of, "She might be hot. But if the personality is not there, then forget about it." That's not projecting?
Originally posted by womensfeetlover:
You are projecting. No one said that. The only one using superlatives here is you.
quote:Nah, I’m fine with you.
Perhaps you should pick on them, too.
quote:What’s the thread about again? Rhetorical.
Again, notice how they said that they will go to the less attractive girls ONLY IF the personality is terrible.
quote:As in words you made up that has not been spoken once in this thread…
In other words,
quote:Right, and your “proof” showed no one spoke in absolutes like that.
the fatties and the less attractive girls were NEVER their first choices. No one ever mentions what would happen if the girl with the ugly face had a terrible personality, leading all of us to believe that they are the only types of women with wonderful personalities.
quote:And the topic was about the inverse of that. So, what that was all about is beyond me.
I mean for any of us, we ALL would reject a girl with ugly feet no matter how she looks like. There are average looking girls with not so nice feet, too. You would reject her for a better looking girl with better feet. Truth be told.
quote:That’s not for you to decide, though, is it? What may seem cut and dry to you is a full blown conversation to others.
quote:This thread should've gotten one response because the answer should be that cut and dry.
Originally posted by womensfeetlover:
As to your last paragraph, mileage varies per person. Plenty of guys would do just that, plenty of guys would say "eh, I'll put a bag over her head or pretend or something." You can't say what people will do unequivocally in this situation because everyone is different. Heck that's another purpose of this thread, because if the answer was so obvious and clear cut the thread would have got maybe one response then got buried by other popular threads.
quote:You have no idea how ironic it is you just said that. Hint: no one else but you kept jumping around (stay on one topic as you put it).
The reason it didn't stay at one response is because there are mental defectives in this world. Thank the lord I'm not one of them. Shallow? Maybe. A mental defective? Nope.
quote:And I’m sure that makes sense in your head, just like the rest of your screed. You’re like jamming to music no one else can hear.
Oh, and as far as that DeLorean goes, you can borrow it. But the thing is, it's taking you back to 1885.
quote:Wow, posed a question then answered it yourself and still did it incorrectly, conflating personality with physical traits. Is English your first language? If not I hope I gave you some pointers.
One more thing. What is your definition of someone with a nice personality? I'll bet that whatever your answer is, there are women with hot faces with better bodies and feet that posses the same qualities. And here you are doing things with some girl whose face no one would ever even bother to look twice at. A face that would make anyone think it's a man (that's because it was). And why? "Because she had a nice 'personality.'" If a girl has hot feet, wouldn't you want her face to be easy on the eyes as well?
I do.
quote:I think how is fairly obvious by now.
Originally posted by DSW:
quote:How so?
Originally posted by combine_hunter:
DSW, you're still making false inferences.
The key phrase is "people are making it sound like"; once you say that, anything you say afterward is basically just your opinion of what others in the thread are saying. And you're wrong at every turn.
quote:No they didn’t. Once again, you are condemning through omission and that doesn’t begin to make any sort of sense. You don’t define how people respond, that’s not up to you and whatever arbitrary rules you got in your head.
quote:Because everyone else was insenstive towards them or not giving them enough credit. The accolades went to the women who are 5s and 6s.
Originally posted by combine_hunter:
I don't know why you're so sensitive about hot girls.
quote:Isn’t that what you’re doing? Yet now you're trying to play the victim. You just freely admitted the stuff you were complaining about didn’t happen in this thread. At this point you’re arguing to argue.
quote:Oh, so when people twist the situations and stipulations and scenarios around to leave us no choice but to pick the fatties and the less attractive women, that's not twisting words to suit their own purpose? So it's okay to dismiss hot women because they have a "personality defect" and not okay when someone else comes in one their defense? Nice.
Originally posted by combine_hunter:
Honestly, they don't need any of us defending them. And any potential "witch hunt" you see against them by people posting here is a product of you twisting their words to suit your own purpose.
quote:From…you? LOL You can’t even keep your own points consistent, but now you’re a teacher?
quote:Good. Maybe you'll learn some valuable lessons.
Originally posted by combine_hunter:
That said, I'm not opposed to you continuing to post in this manner.
quote:Isn’t it though?
quote:That's lovely.
Originally posted by combine_hunter:
"canIsmellYourFeet" will successfully rebut you again and again, and I will laugh my ass off reading his replies.
quote:Yawn indeed.
quote:Okay, if you insist: Everyone wins except you.
Originally posted by combine_hunter:
So everybody wins.
Except you, of course.
quote:Correction: I'm drawing conclusions based on common sense.
Originally posted by combine_hunter:
How so? You're drawing conclusions based on insufficient evidence.
quote:While no one said that outright, no one said anything to suggest that unattractive women have terrible personalities. Right? I wish you were a member of this forum back at a time where a few members of this forum got into a heated debate about a similar topic. I forgot the title of the topic. But to sum up how that conversation went, some fat girl came in here (she's no longer an active member of this forum and I don't remember if she's the one who started the topic) and asked if we would take a fat girl with a nice personality over a skinny girl with a terrible personality. When I came in and said that I would pick the latter and that fat and/or unattractive women can have terrible personalities as well, she didn't want to hear it and I became the bad guy. It was a heated debate that went on for several pages and I (or others who agreed with me) were called shallow and other things like that. I don't remember what was said word for word, but that's how it bascially went down. And this is not just limited to this forum. There are regular relationship forums that run similar topics from time to time. Anyone who sided with the hot girls were labled as shallow for not finding fat or unattractive women attractive. Most of the people would say that the more attractive women are stuck up, bitchy, dumb and what have you. Are they those things? A lot of them can be. But they were saying it as if fat/unattractive women are never (or rarely) any of thoes things?
Originally posted by combine_hunter:
Just because Talos (to pick out one guy) takes personality into account doesn't mean that he thinks hot chicks have terrible personalities. Nor did he or anyone else say something like "all hot women have shitty personalities".
quote:Again, (I think I brought this up before in my other post in this thread) if I had only asked that question in that way, I would've been met with "yeah, but what if their personalities suck?", "yeah, but if we don't have anything in common, there's no chemistry." In other words, even if I did come in here and asked that question, they will always look for loopholes and create reasonable doubt as to why you should not be shallow and go with the hot ones. They'll admit that they'll go for the hottie. But in their next breath, they'll throw in something about her personality that's not too positive. Anything to make us think that the fatties and women who are not that hot are the ones that we get along with best.
Originally posted by combine_hunter:
Also, instead of assuming that people in here meant to be offensive toward "hot" women, you could have asked "hey, what about the hotties with great feet"? And you probably would have been pleased with the results,
quote:I hope not.
Originally posted by combine_hunter:
because nobody in their fucking right mind would say no to a "hot" girl with hot feet.
quote:Well, if you had a choice between her another another hottie like an Eva Mendes, for example, I can understand why you would make that choice. But if it were between her and a Roseanne Barr or a Joy Behar, then that's a problem. And we all know that any girl who's fat is not hot (or not the male ideal). You don't have to be attracted to Megan, but you can understand why many guys do like her. A woman doesn't have to be attracted to Tom Brady but she can understand why other women will be attracted to his looks.
Originally posted by combine_hunter:
Then again, there's a reason I put "hot" in quotation marks. Such a judgment is based on perception, and as we all know, beauty is typically (but not always) in the eye of the beholder. For example, many guys think Megan Fox is "hot". I do not. So would you then say that I'm being "insensitive" toward her if I don't want to jump her bones and worship her feet all night long? I would have a good reason; I'm not attracted to her in any way.
quote:But they are disqualifying hot women by saying if she has no personality then that's it. No one else disqualified the more unattractive women for the same reasons (or at least no one else disqualified them only until after I came in here).
Originally posted by combine_hunter:
Nobody is forcing you to go out with or even consider "unattractive" women.
quote:Fair enough.
Originally posted by combine_hunter:
I don't assume that you're shallow and narrow-minded. I do think you could brush up on your critical reading skill and maybe ease up on the assumptions. Taking people at their word isn't a bad thing, and usually, if they feel strongly enough about something, they will say it directly.
quote:False.
Originally posted by canIsmellYourFeet:
I think how is fairly obvious by now.
quote:Oh, yes I can.
No they didn’t. Once again, you are condemning through omission and that doesn’t begin to make any sort of sense. You don’t define how people respond, ....
quote:Yes, that's exactly what I'm doing because that's what everyone else was doing to begin with. I was just evening the playing field.
Isn’t that what you’re doing?
quote:Yep. And you failed your homework assignment for this course.
From…you? LOL You can’t even keep your own points consistent, but now you’re a teacher?
quote:Isn’t it though?[/QUOTE]
quote:That's lovely.
Originally posted by combine_hunter:
"canIsmellYourFeet" will successfully rebut you again and again, and I will laugh my ass off reading his replies.
quote:Yeah, if common sense is what you call made up bs.
Originally posted by DSW:
quote:Correction: I'm drawing conclusions based on common sense.
Originally posted by combine_hunter:
How so? You're drawing conclusions based on insufficient evidence.
quote:Why would they have to? What is with this reductionist thinking you’re holding on to?
quote:While no one said that outright, no one said anything to suggest that unattractive women have terrible personalities. Right?
Originally posted by combine_hunter:
Just because Talos (to pick out one guy) takes personality into account doesn't mean that he thinks hot chicks have terrible personalities. Nor did he or anyone else say something like "all hot women have shitty personalities".
quote:Again, dig up the old thread or create your own that discusses that topic. You want to talk about it so bad, then talk about it, but treating the people here as if they said the things your talking about is just downright silly.
Snip DSW martyring himself talking about stuff that happened years ago and have absolutely nothing to do with the thread at hand
quote:So, basically, you’re trying to turn this thread into something it wasn’t designed to be, cause you’re too lazy to dig up the thread you keep referring to or creating your own? Got it.
quote:Again, (I think I brought this up before in my other post in this thread) if I had only asked that question in that way, I would've been met with "yeah, but what if their personalities suck?", "yeah, but if we don't have anything in common, there's no chemistry." In other words, even if I did come in here and asked that question, they will always look for loopholes and create reasonable doubt as to why you should not be shallow and go with the hot ones. They'll admit that they'll go for the hottie. But in their next breath, they'll throw in something about her personality that's not too positive. Anything to make us think that the fatties and women who are not that hot are the ones that we get along with best.
Originally posted by combine_hunter:
Also, instead of assuming that people in here meant to be offensive toward "hot" women, you could have asked "hey, what about the hotties with great feet"? And you probably would have been pleased with the results,
quote:NOW you understand subjunctive. That’s great, but its still along the lines of trying to tell people how they should phrase their own statements based on arbitrary standards in YOUR head. That’s not happening.
Now if I came in here and asked "hey, what about fat women with great feet?", none of them would reject them because of their personalities. They'll all reject them because of the way they look. You see.
quote:But see, combine_hunter, of course this has to be explicitly stated or else its unequivocally false. That’s sarcasm, DSW.
quote:I hope not.
Originally posted by combine_hunter:
because nobody in their fucking right mind would say no to a "hot" girl with hot feet.
quote:You’re still acting like your standard is that which everyone else should judge their own by.
quote:Well, if you had a choice between her another another hottie like an Eva Mendes, for example, I can understand why you would make that choice. But if it were between her and a Roseanne Barr or a Joy Behar, then that's a problem. And we all know that any girl who's fat is not hot (or not the male ideal). You don't have to be attracted to Megan, but you can understand why many guys do like her. A woman doesn't have to be attracted to Tom Brady but she can understand why other women will be attracted to his looks.
Originally posted by combine_hunter:
Then again, there's a reason I put "hot" in quotation marks. Such a judgment is based on perception, and as we all know, beauty is typically (but not always) in the eye of the beholder. For example, many guys think Megan Fox is "hot". I do not. So would you then say that I'm being "insensitive" toward her if I don't want to jump her bones and worship her feet all night long? I would have a good reason; I'm not attracted to her in any way.
quote:Yeah I think we proved with your “proof” that’s not actually occurring.
quote:But they are disqualifying hot women by saying if she has no personality then that's it. No one else disqualified the more unattractive women for the same reasons (or at least no one else disqualified them only until after I came in here).
Originally posted by combine_hunter:
Nobody is forcing you to go out with or even consider "unattractive" women.
quote:Again inconsistent even with your own internal logic. This whole thing started because you are trying to “correct” the posters here for “giving fatties hope” or whatever nonsense it was you spewed earlier. So now its not advice? Okay. I mean no one took it as advice anyway, no one is dumb enough to see you as any sort of authority on anything, but you did set yourself up as one.
quote:What was it that I said that was taken as advice?
This thread is a discussion, not an advice column.
quote:Combine_hunter makes a great point. You read a whole bunch of stuff in there that…honestly I still can’t figure out how. You admitting no one actually said it in THIS thread explains it all, though.
quote:Fair enough.
Originally posted by combine_hunter:
I don't assume that you're shallow and narrow-minded. I do think you could brush up on your critical reading skill and maybe ease up on the assumptions. Taking people at their word isn't a bad thing, and usually, if they feel strongly enough about something, they will say it directly.
quote:And yet...true!
Originally posted by DSW:
quote:False.
Originally posted by canIsmellYourFeet:
I think how is fairly obvious by now.
quote:And now you've gone from throwing a temper tantrum like a five year old to sounding like one. lol
quote:Oh, yes I can.
No they didn’t. Once again, you are condemning through omission and that doesn’t begin to make any sort of sense. You don’t define how people respond, ....
quote:Waa waa Jimmy threw a rock too. All you do is tap dance and shift blame, once you revealed no one actually said any of the crap you stood on a soapbox and claimed they said it was all over.
quote:Yes, that's exactly what I'm doing because that's what everyone else was doing to begin with. I was just evening the playing field.
Isn’t that what you’re doing?
quote:I’m sure you’re important somewhere, if only that place was here.
quote:Yep. And you failed your homework assignment for this course.
From…you? LOL You can’t even keep your own points consistent, but now you’re a teacher?
quote:Sure it isn't. Sure it isn't.
Originally posted by combine_hunter:
quote:That's lovely.
"canIsmellYourFeet" will successfully rebut you again and again, and I will laugh my ass off reading his replies.quote:It would be if what Combine said there was true.
Isn’t it though?
quote:It's true to me. *shrugs*
Originally posted by DSW:
It would be if what Combine said there was true.
quote:But it isn't. It's called common sense.
Originally posted by canIsmellYourFeet:
Yeah, if common sense is what you call made up bs.
quote:Oh, so I'm making this whole thing up? I have no reason to lie to anyone. And it's not downright silly if what I said was true (and it is).
Again, dig up the old thread or create your own that discusses that topic. You want to talk about it so bad, then talk about it, but treating the people here as if they said the things your talking about is just downright silly.
quote:You failed another assignment (why am I not surprised?) You see, you don't get it. I'm not responsible for turning this thread into something it wasn't supposed to be. THEY are. Go ahead and read the post that started this topic. Or you can read the title of this topic. No where in it does it say anything about personality, nor did it encourage people to talk about it. Compare what the OP said to what everyone else was saying. It doesn't match. All I did was join in the mix when the people already took the topic out of context.
So, basically, you’re trying to turn this thread into something it wasn’t designed to be, cause you’re too lazy to dig up the thread you keep referring to or creating your own? Got it.
quote:You see, I've ALWAYS understood subjunctive. The problem is that you have ADD or any other selevtive memory defect. These "arbitrary standards" in my head ARE the ideal standards. Men don't like fat pigs or other unattractive people who call themselves women even if they have nice personalities. How's that not ideal? Yes, I know my language was a little harsh there, but you get my point.
NOW you understand subjunctive. That’s great, but its still along the lines of trying to tell people how they should phrase their own statements based on arbitrary standards in YOUR head. That’s not happening.
quote:Right. Hot women, hot feet. Cute women, cute feet. No need to put quotation marks on those because we all know attractive women when we see them. Nothing about fatness, nothing about gnarled or long toenails, nothing about fungus in their feet, none of that nonsense. Nothing about personality. Just like the title of this topic suggested. What the OP was saying is that he'll take hot feet even if the girl is ugly. THAT'S IT. He then asked if anyone else felt the same way? All you had to do was say yes or no.
You’re still acting like your standard is that which everyone else should judge their own by.
quote:That's what you think. I think what happened was I was talking too fast and you were listening too slow.
Yeah I think we proved with your “proof” that’s not actually occurring.
quote:Yes and no. Yes, because what I say is correct. And, no, because this whole thing started because the conversation went out of topic before I got in here. By that time, no one had given credit to attractive women.
Again inconsistent even with your own internal logic. This whole thing started because you are trying to “correct” the posters here for “giving fatties hope”
quote:Telling guys to pick the hotties over the fatties is common sense, not really advice. Because it's that obvious.
So now its not advice? Okay. I mean no one took it as advice anyway, no one is dumb enough to see you as any sort of authority on anything, but you did set yourself up as one.
quote:I can figure out how. It's because I'm right.
Combine_hunter makes a great point. You read a whole bunch of stuff in there that…honestly I still can’t figure out how.
quote:Yeah ... true that it's false!
Originally posted by canIsmellYourFeet:
[QB]And yet...true!
quote:If it's going to take a five year old to teach you the truth, 'canIsmellyourfeet', then so be it.
And now you've gone from throwing a temper tantrum like a five year old to sounding like one. lol
quote:No such thing happened because you never provided any great examples.
]Waa waa Jimmy threw a rock too. All you do is tap dance and shift blame, once you revealed no one actually said any of the crap you stood on a soapbox and claimed they said it was all over.
quote:Speak for yourself.
I’m sure you’re important somewhere, if only that place was here.
quote:I'm glad we can agree that what combine said wasn't true.
Sure it isn't. Sure it isn't.
quote:Hold on, here. Nobody said that attractive women are evil and homely girls aren't. Where does all that come from? Nobody said that average girls can't have ugly feet. It's not axiomatic. It's just preference.
Originally posted by DSW:
I cannot believe some of the stuff I'm reading in here. Are you serious? You guys make it sound like all the women who have terrible personalities or whatever just happen to be the hot ones. You guys make it sound like that the hot women are the ones with terrible feet and the women who are 6 or below on the hotness scale are the ones with the hottest feet walking the face of the planet.
Trust me, there are hot chicks with hot feet. A lot more than what you think. A lot more than you think. Trust me. And guess what? There are chicks who are not that hot with feet that are not that hot. I know that's hard to believe, folks, but it's true.
Yes, let's all pretend and forget that sites like these don't exsist:
http://californiabeachfeet.com/
http://feetjeans.com/
You mean to tell me that you will reject women from those sites just to be with some homely chick who has some "great" feet? Yes, I put great in quotation marks because what your definition of great feet can be unappealing to the next person. I would like to think that we all like great looking feet, but there are guys in here who think that BBW feet or feet with long toenails are the greatest things since sliced bread. I can't take those guys seriously. You mean to tell me that you will reject the girls from the sites I mentioned because some lesser looking girl has a better personality because the two of you have two more things in common than with the girl who's pretty cute or hot?
Yes, let's pretend that attractive women are all evil with nefarious motives on hot to back stab you while all the other girls who are not as cute are all sweet angels and who can do no wrong.
You guys have got to be kidding me.
Yes, let's pretend that the women on those sites are all nasty people. Yes, terrible personalities. All of them.
I mean for any of us, we ALL would reject a girl with ugly feet no matter how she looks like. There are average looking girls with not so nice feet, too. You would reject her for a better looking girl with better feet. Truth be told.
If she's a sweet girl with feet that are a 10, then that's one thing. But if that girl's face looks like Jobba the Hut's or the wicked witch of the west, then it's not happening.