Adam Ferrara, comedian, made a good point in one of his stand ups. What are your views towards the Space program? If gas prices shoots up, people are flipping out, but when a million dollar satellite goes out or whatever, no one cares. I need to investigate the matter more, but to me space is a waste of time, effort, and money. Think about it this way. If we took all the money and man power and technology we use to get our asses in space, and redirected to, oh I dont know, Hydrogen powered cars, Im sure we would have the necessary tools and credentials needed to make hydrogen power a reality. Lets face it, what has space done for us lately that it didnt do in the 70s and 80s. Nothing. Satellites I understand, but sending things to Mars and whatnot. Why? Unless they find out that Mars is actually made of nothing but OIL I dont give a shit. Oooh ice. Better send another trillion dollars up there to see how OLD the ice is. Then after that, we can go to Mercury. And we wont stop till we've visited every planet, realized its all been a waste of time, and have a zillion less dollars in our pockets.
Posted by Tweener (Member # 1630) on :
Hahahah hell yeah mystik... that's what I think of it too. Yes, by all means let's ignore the homeless and the working class living below the poverty line just so we can spend 100 billion dollars collecting soil samples from the moon and measuring the reactions of an Asian spidermonkey in zero gravity. It's not like these other planets are habitable! Mercury and Venus are too close to the sun, therefore too hot. Mars, according to the pictures, is a big wasteland. Ooooh, there might have been a river there 3 million years ago, big deal. and everything after that is too far away from the sun! What's the point of conquering space when there's nothing there?
Posted by Throwback (Member # 10027) on :
Yup, big waste of time and money.
Of course, if they find any type of resource on Mars, or the moon, or anyplace else, you can bet it will cost more than it supplies in the logistics of transportation alone. I think some rich cats are banking on finding tons of diamonds to cash in on. Wow. We will have supported their zillion-dollar baby to make them richer.
I can hardy stand the suspense. Assholes.
Posted by ledaemon (Member # 198) on :
I can't agree with you on this one guys. I believe having knowledge of the world (or even universe) just for knowledge sake is important. The need to explore and discover and study where humans haven't gone before is important to the advancement of science. Remember it wasn't but a few hundred years ago that we believed the sun rotated around the world, we believed the earth was flat, and we didn't sail across the ocean because giant sea monsters would eat you up!!!
I'd prefer money continued to be used towards research and exploration rather than squandering it on the war machine in Iraq. Where has THAT gotten us is the real question! Got a good guess on what the daily cost of that is now?
[ September 25, 2005, 01:44 PM: Message edited by: ledaemon ]
Posted by Throwback (Member # 10027) on :
When those untapped oil fields start producing in Iraq, and gas goes down to $ 2.00/gal. at the pump, then everyone will conveniently "forget" again that we basically took over a government in the mid-east and made it our oil-slut.
Guess who's getting REALLY rich right now?
All of the oil companies. (except BP lol, they're closing stations around here, but they aren't into any global funny stuff so buy some BP will you?)
Laughing all the way to the bank, while they fuck us all in the ass by messing with the muslims in the middle east. Kim Jong Il isn't any attention because his ass isn't sitting on top of billions of gallons of sweet crude.
Yay... I agree LeDaemon, about the trillions we are blowing in Iraq, and at least the Space program never got some religious zealots to attack us like the Oil program, but I can't see spending anything more until they make cold fusion happen, and achieve light speed or something. Never mind Mars or MORE telescopes.
Posted by Sasha (Member # 1842) on :
Well find the same damn thing we found on the moon--------> ROCKS!!!!
On the gas thing:
We were lucky to have gas prices so low for so long--->
Higher prices were bound to happen.Sign O the times my friends.Katrina or no Katrina
Posted by Mona (Member # 8351) on :
and when china or someone starts to really focus on space and ten years later they have weapons up there,everyone who is pissed about it now will say "well why havnt we been doing anything in space?"
Posted by killa (Member # 8564) on :
quote:Originally posted by Mona: and when china or someone starts to really focus on space and ten years later they have weapons up there,everyone who is pissed about it now will say "well why havnt we been doing anything in space?"
you speak the truth
Posted by Sasha (Member # 1842) on :
Weapons?? We'll do all the damage we need to from the ground..
I love your picture on your avatar Mona. Very sexy and very Goth...
Posted by DJ (Member # 1698) on :
quote:Originally posted by Sasha: Weapons?? We'll do all the damage we need to from the ground..
We have a lot of weapon's in space and have for a long time!
We aren't the only country that has them there either.
Ok, now I am leaving the political section! I don't like stopping in here. I can get out of hand someitmes and I don't want to start pissing people off.
Posted by Sasha (Member # 1842) on :
quote: We have a lot of weapon's in space and have for a long time!
Weapons?????? Whatcha talkin bout Willis.. I know we can guide and track from space.
Enlighten me oh wise one.....
Posted by DJ (Member # 1698) on :
It is not really a secret the certain satellites from the US and several other country's have nukes on them.
They are just disguised as other type of sat's. Like communications, etc.
They have been there a long time!
Posted by Sasha (Member # 1842) on :
quote:Originally posted by DJ: It is not really a secret the certain satellites from the US and several other country's have nukes on them.
They are just disguised as other type of sat's. Like communications, etc.
They have been there a long time!
WELL HELLS BELLS!!!!!!!!!!!
I did not know that.
Posted by Outback69 (Member # 2217) on :
Geez...
All this talk about nukes on satellites makes me want to reconsider my purchase of a dish....
"This program & satellite signal are brought to you tonight by the good folks at your federal government....smile! we have you right on target!"
Posted by Tweener (Member # 1630) on :
You have a point Mona, however I recently watched a documentary, I believe it was Weapons of War, where analysts said the threat of a nuclear attack is not likely to come from a developed nation, rather from a small group of political or religious fanatics who will never have the funding or resources to put a satellite into space. Mutually assured destruction has been around for decades, though, and to me it doesn't matter if a nuke comes from space, a submarine, or a group of terrorists who hide it in the back of an unmarked van and set a timer. Toast is toast.
My initial point is that we're spending billions of dollars to send probes to measure wind speeds and surface temperatures on Pluto when they could be better spent improving things here. That's all.