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June 4, 2009
New Hampshire Legalizes Same-Sex Marriage
By ABBY GOODNOUGH

BOSTON — The New Hampshire legislature approved revisions to a same-sex marriage bill on Wednesday, and Gov. John Lynch promptly signed the legislation, making the state the sixth to let gay couples wed.

The bill had been through several permutations to satisfy Mr. Lynch and certain legislators that it would not force religious organizations that oppose same-sex marriage to participate in ceremonies celebrating it. Some groups had feared they could be sued for refusing to allow same-sex weddings on their property.

Mr. Lynch, who previously supported civil unions but not marriage for same-sex couples, said in a statement that he had heard “compelling arguments that a separate system is not an equal system.”

“Today,” he said, “we are standing up for the liberties of same-sex couples by making clear that they will receive the same rights, responsibilities — and respect — under New Hampshire law.”

The law will take effect on Jan. 1. As originally cast, the legislation exempted members of the clergy from having to perform same-sex weddings. Then Mr. Lynch, a centrist Democrat, said he would veto the bill unless the legislature added language also exempting religious groups and their employees from having to participate in such ceremonies.

Mr. Lynch also ordered that the bill protect members of religious groups from having to provide same-sex couples with religious counseling, housing designated for married people and other services relating to “the promotion of marriage.”

But the House rejected that language last month by a two-vote margin, and legislative leaders appointed a committee to negotiate a compromise.

The committee last week recommended changes further emphasizing the rights of religious groups not to participate. They include a preamble to the bill that states, “Each religious organization, association, or society has exclusive control over its own religious doctrine, policy, teachings and beliefs regarding who may marry within their faith.”

Republicans have called the committee’s work tainted because the Senate president, Sylvia B. Larsen, a Democrat, replaced one of its Republican members when that legislator would not sign off on last week’s compromise. Under legislative rules, the committee’s decision needed to be unanimous.

As more states have legalized same-sex marriage, opponents have increasingly lobbied for “conscience protections,” language that exempts religious organizations from having to participate.

But many of the bill’s opponents believe the language adopted by New Hampshire and several other states does not go far enough because it protects only religious groups and their employees. New Hampshire’s bill does not exempt photographers or florists, for example, from having to provide services.

But groups that advocate for gay rights, some of whom poured money into the state in recent months, said the law was yet another step toward mainstream America accepting same-sex marriage. “As people get to know the loving and committed couples at the heart of marriage equality,” said Neil G. Giuliano, president of the Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation, “our culture is moving to equality.”

Kevin Smith, director of the Cornerstone Policy Research, a group opposing the bill, said lawmakers “rammed this legislation through” in a way that “reeks of backroom deals and a subversion of the legislative process.”

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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/04/us/04marriage.html?_r=1&hp=&pagewanted=print


 

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Posted by A&F_FootDude_05 (Member # 2999) on :
 
#6!
 

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Posted by Wrinklesguy (Member # 732) on :
 
Cali will never let it go, which is funny because there's prolly more gays here than anywhere else...but the majority of people in the state voted against it by a landslide. Just call it "Civil Union" and move on I don't know it HAS to be called "Marriage", that signifies the Religious ceremony of union anyway?
 

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Posted by ucflyeah (Member # 32674) on :
 
unreal. and non-gay people who put all this energy into fighting for this cause??

i just don't get it. if you're not gay, who cares?

it's like me with abortion. i'm a male and i practice safe sex so abortion will NEVER be an issue in my life, so what do i care???

sooooo much wasted energy
 

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Posted by sofatater (Member # 4209) on :
 
I agree with ucflyeah. Why do we have to put so much effort in worrying about what someone else is doing. If you aren't doing anyone else any harm, why should I (or anyone else) make life difficult for you? And we call ourselves an intelligent species.

I support gay rights. I'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body.
 

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Posted by Wrinklesguy (Member # 732) on :
 
I think it's a moral issue guys, people usually vote their conscience on issues like this even if it doesn't personally affect them. There's 2 camps on this A}People who just plain don't like Homosexuals B}Vote on it for Religious convictional reasons. Plus, a democratic voting system still showed it's viability in upholding the state constitution {for or against depending on what state it is...and the states I believe should hold this right respectively to either have it or not and win,lose or draw both sides need to accept it}
 

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Posted by Craigy boy (Member # 3340) on :
 
If 2 people love each other, let them suffer a marriage like the rest of us.
 

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Originally posted by Craigy boy:
If 2 people love each other, let them suffer a marriage like the rest of us.

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Originally posted by Craigy boy:
If 2 people love each other, let them suffer a marriage like the rest of us.

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agreed
 

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Originally posted by ucflyeah:
unreal. and non-gay people who put all this energy into fighting for this cause??

i just don't get it. if you're not gay, who cares?

it's like me with abortion. i'm a male and i practice safe sex so abortion will NEVER be an issue in my life, so what do i care???

sooooo much wasted energy

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Plus I didn't know this, but the average lifespan for a gay male is 43 years.

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Originally posted by Wrinklesguy:
Actually I didn't hear that from Paul Cameron, it was in a discussion forum that came up in a google search for "average age" of a gay male. Didn't mention his article at all.

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Originally posted by Wrinklesguy:
So how many practicing sexually active gay men do you see in their 70's? ok, wait..bad visual..but probably not too many.

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What does their sexual activity have to do with anything? The survey only talks about people being gay (as in their sexual orientation)...not about being sexually active at an old age.

Obviously there are gays and lesbians in their 70s...in fact a few days ago I just read an interview in the "Sueddeutsche Zeitung" with a German gay couple in their 80s....they were positively amazed that same-sex couples can now legally get married in Germany....especially if you consider that less than 70 years ago the German Nazis murdered thousands of homosexuals in the concentration camps.

My housemate is a lesbian and has loads of friends who are gay or lesbian...most of them in their early 40s or even early 50s. I´m pretty sure many of them are going to live until they are 70 and older.
(I´m mentioning this because the survey also talks about lesbians...apparently their average lifespan is only 46 years).

-Hal-
 

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So how many practicing sexually active gay men do you see in their 70's? ok, wait..bad visual..but probably not too many.

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Originally posted by ucflyeah:
unreal. and non-gay people who put all this energy into fighting for this cause??

i just don't get it. if you're not gay, who cares?

it's like me with abortion. i'm a male and i practice safe sex so abortion will NEVER be an issue in my life, so what do i care???

sooooo much wasted energy

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Unfortunately there is no 100% safe sex guarantee. Plenty of things come close but condoms are 95% safe (so that's a 1/200 chance! eek!). And the Pill has a much higher percentage... but nothing is 100% short of castration.

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