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If prostitution is paying for sexual acts, then what's the difference between that and paying an adult star to perform sexual acts in movies and such?
Anyone? I have an idea, but I don't want to say anything until I hear some answers.
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That's a good question Bondo, and personally I'm not seeing much of a difference between the two myself.
I guess the main logic for the double-standard would be the act of "solicitation" for intercourse. Simply put, yeah, the guy is banging the girl, and the girl is being paid...but it wasn't the guy "actor" who paid her for it, because he too is a paid performer.
However, there are some videos to my knowledge where the guy producing said videos is the guy having all the sex, and you KNOW those girls aren't spreading for free...so then, how is this movie-maker any different than some "John" picking up a "lady of the night" off of the street? Either way the guys are paying for it...the big difference being the movie-maker will most likely get more than his money back in video sales and the "John" doesn't have any gain...monetarily speaking anyway...
So unless there's some really big and glairing difference I'm unaware of, the line between adult films and prostituion is pretty damn thin, and for the most part transparent! Sure, I can imagine plenty of adult film stars would take exception to the comparison, but sex for money, in the end, is still sex for money no matter how you try to dress it up. The only difference I can see is in who pays for what, and it is this technicality that clears the film industry and still lands lonely guys and loose girls in the slammer.
For the record though, I don't have a problem with either one. Adult films...prostituion...neither one knots my undies to think about. George Carlin said it best: "Selling is legal...fucking is legal...why isn't selling fucking legal?!"
What is your idea about this Bondo?
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First of all, my favourite motto is: "Sex is like software, it's better when it's free".
BUT... as with all good things in life, there is always a price.
Adult business industry is a favourite field of mine to explore and learn things round and about on it. Even though my country has none filmography whatsoever to show ... I m always trying to find little bis and pieces about it. I have no problem at all whether or not they are getting paid as long as they deliver good stuff. Of course, every sexual act which can be found on the net is not without a price. And I cant believe that any of those adult performers never get paid for their services.
Porn-o-graphy or adult or explicit motion pictures or whatever you may call it has money involved in it...let alone the actors and actresses involved in it. To me they are getting paid to "do" and "be done" so that to get money which wouldnt have the opportunity to get anywhere else. The same applies with the prostitutes or common women .. or whatever you may call them. Fair enough... they are doing the most ancient job in the world. I understand... Easy .. and quick money to get them going...
The same applies to the pornographic industry... therefore, I see no difference at all between those two fields of society.
Bare in mind, that I'm only saying my opinion on a subject which can have many aspects and views. I do not put the blame nor condemn anyonye.
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Heres the only difference I see. The government can tax and make money off the adult industry however it would be impossible for them to make any money off joe schmoe going down to the street and picking up some tang
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quote:Originally posted by Lou Gojira: "Selling is legal...fucking is legal...why isn't selling fucking legal?!"
Oh man. Now you made me really want to get out the Carlin DVDs.
For the original question...there really isn't much of a difference. Though I think porn stars tend to hold themselves much higher above prostitutes. I remember reading an interview with one somewhere(completely forget where though) where the question was posed "do you consider it glorified prostitution?" and she flipped out about that, saying that they are way above that.
The major difference, in my opinion, is that prostitutes squeak by each week money-wise, while good pornstars have millions.
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quote: Oh man. Now you made me really want to get out the Carlin DVDs.
DVD's?! Man...I gotta upgrade, all I've got are what I was able to copy off of HBO on VHS, and those tapes are almost worn out!
quote: she flipped out about that, saying that they are way above that.
Do you remember if she gave any reasons why porn stars think themselves "way above" it? Like I say, I'm not knocking either profession, but it seems a person would really have to bullshit themselves to seriously believe it.
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Do you remember if she gave any reasons why porn stars think themselves "way above" it? Like I say, I'm not knocking either profession, but it seems a person would really have to bullshit themselves to seriously believe it. [/QB]
They have lots of Carlin DVDs out now a days. I'm unsure if that exact line is on them, but reading it made me want to watch basically any modern carlin stand up I have hehe. He is about due for another HBO special, too...I *think* his last one was in 2001.
I don't remember exactly what she said, but i'm sure her reasons were about as ridiculous as the belief itself haha.
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Thanks for your input guys. The adult industry being taxable is a very good and valid point.
The main difference that I could think of between porn and prostitution is something along the lines of a "model release form". There may be some sort of legal jargon in the documentation that draws a line between the two.
If it were that simple, then technically could have a prostitute sign a model release form to make prostitution a legal act. On the other hand, I don't think a prostitute would be willing to share her legal identification with someone for that reason.
What do you think?
Bondo
P.S. - Carlin is awesome! I have all of his HBO specials on VHS. My dad even has some of his records (vinyl, remember those?). I've watched his routines so many times that I can practically recite them with him. Same with Gallagher.
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Yeah, Carlin is great! I have a few of his older comedy recordings on vinyl.
More on target, this is an interesting thread.
As far as the porn star goes who flipped when asked if being a porn star was glorified prostitution, I'm sure she tried to justify it by saying that a prostitute will have sex with most anyone coming up to her offering her the right money (and not nearly as much money as the porn star makes). Whereas, a porn star has sex with only a "selected group" of individuals, although that "selected group" is usually fairly large. Also, porn stars, supposedly, get tested for STDs on a fairly regular basis. My guess is that most prositutes don't get tested or, if they do, it isn't nearly as often. Either way you slice it, only boinking a selected group of people does not mean you're not susceptible to catching something.
I guess the only real difference between a porn star and a prostitute is the signing of a release form for filming and the acts being released in some medium (i.e. film, DVD, etc.) for public viewing. I think rockbass is totally on target in saying that the government can get its cut of tax money off of the porn industry. As a result, it's still legal, whereas getting tax money out of prostitutes is much more difficult, if not impossible. If Uncle Sam isn't getting his share, it's illegal.
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quote:Originally posted by Fate111: If Uncle Sam isn't getting his share, it's illegal.
Yeah, that sounds about right. What an unappealing realization.
Marijuana is an example of that reasoning. Marijuana is illegal unless it's medically necessary, which then gives the government justification to "have its hand in the POT"...hehehee!
So prostitution is legal if its in the taxable form of pornography. Would that be correct?
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