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Anybody hear about this controversial movie and/or plan on seeing it? From what I've heard, Disney's Miramax branch originally passed on distributing it because of the subject-matter, but after the film picked up some popularity at the Cannes Film Festival, they're climbing over themselves to release it now.
In case you haven't heard about it, it's a sort of "theory movie" by Michael Moore that implies through-out it that the Bush family had financial ties to Osama Bin Laden. Supposedly, fatboy Michael got his hands on footage that has eluded the mainstream news that backs up this claim he makes.
Now, for the record, I think more highly of a pile of dried up dog-shit than I do Michael Moore, but I have to admit that I'll probably be buying a ticket on opening night to see this flick. My own curiosity over this claim is peaked, and I want to see it before it might get yanked out of the theatres. Anybody else plan to see it?
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That's the thing fanatic, I totally agree with you that Michael Moore is a basturd. He's a troublemaker, a sensationalist, a race traitor, etc, etc, and so on and so forth. Maybe I'll be skipping out on buying a ticket for that movie afterall. I'll just wait until somebody I know get's it on tape and borrow it from them.
I do the same thing with Disney movies, have my own personal boycott going on that is. My conscience would kill me if I spent money supporting any of Michael's efforts. But I have to admit, with some of the hype this flick's gotten, my curiosity is brimming over. I sure hope somebody get's this tape bootlegged or something real soon...
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Okay, I have some extra time on my hands and have downed a few cups of coffee. Let's get me started -
Let me start by saying that I am a Republican, voted for Bush and will again in November. More about that later.
Michael Moore feeds off controversy, otherwise he knows people would not go see his films to the extent of him breaking even.
Just like Eminem does and years ago, Ice-T with his Body Count album. Moore has seen what stirring up shit and negative publicity has done to boost the careers of others.
This is just an attempt to try and capitalize on what would probably be a very low grossing film for him.
Mel Gibson, for example, did not intentionally create the media hype for his film (although he probably knew it would ruffle plenty of feathers).
I am sure Michael Moore has seen those box-office numbers though and he NEEDS some type of controversy just so people will even talk about him (like we are doing right now!)
Now on to Bush, terrorism, and Iraq.
NOTE: Liberal tree hugging types stop reading now or you will be offended!
We were FUCKING ATTACKED!!!!!!!!!!! Remember Pearl Harbor? Remember the outrage when we thought that Oklahoma City was originally the work of middle eastern terrorists? Remember Timothy McVeigh's sorry ass being put to death painlessly?
We have not responded nearly hard enough to prevent another 9/11! Overwhelming, extreme, and vicious use the military was and is still needed.
Relentless pursuit of Bin Laden and the total destruction of terrorist cells AND THE FUCKING COUNTRIES FINANCING AND HIDING THEM! That is what I would like to see.
Clinton treated the 93 WTC bombings as a criminal act. This is war and it is not pretty, politically correct, or even civil.
Civilian casualties will occur. Our soldiers, and those of the countries that had the spine to join us, will die also. Some of my friends have already died in Iraq and I know others that are still there.
Bush responded well to Afghanistan, but needs to step it up in Iraq, get those fucking radicals squashed, help rebuild and then get the fuck out.
Cut off all ties to the lying fucking Saudi Royal Family. Let Iran and Syria know that we mean business and that they WILL be next if they don't stop their own bullshit. Build a democratic society in the middle east. Stop all trade with any country that is even suspected of harboring terrorists and treat them like we treat Cuba.
Maybe then we will see some results. I don't give a flying fuck if people around the world don't like America.
We were attacked, we are at war, and we need to do whatever it takes to win.
That is all.
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I can't say as I agree with your thoughts on this situation in Iraq DJ, and no I'm a far cry from a liberal tree hugger type, but I certainly agree with you on your assessment of Michael Moore.
The only film of his I've ever seen is Roger and Me, and that was easily over 10 years ago. I got a few chuckles out of it, then sort of forgot about the film and Michael himself until a few months ago when a friend of mine brought to my attention a book Moore had written called "Dumb White Guys", or something like that. My friend quoted a few saucy lines of this book saying (and I'm paraphrasing here) how white men are the biggest purveyors of evil on society, how he's never going to employ white people again, how frightened he is when a white person approaches him, etc. In other words, like you said, the fat prick was stirring up controversy. My friend was furious at his findings in this book, and he's doing something about it. More on that later if you guys are interested in hearing about it...
Anyway, I like to read "counter-cultural" literature, books and things that aren't always politically correct, and among some of these readings, I've bought myself a few newspapers entitled "The Final Call" and "Muhammed Speaks", published by the church of the Nation of Islam. Inside you can read articles by none other than the likes of Louis Farrakhan and Fard Muhammed, among others. Now here are two newspapers that are written with a pro-black goal in mind, papers you'd actually expect to read slamming European Americans, and not ONE TIME have I ever read anything in those papers as inflamatory to white people as what Michael Moore is guilty of. That kinda' proves to me that Moore's dumbass will go to any length to stir up shit.
As much as I hate the lard-ass trouble-making Moore, I regret to admit that I'm curious about his latest film. But like you guys, I won't spend any money on it if I ever see it. I'd like to buy a movie ticket to see it, but I know my conscience wouldn't let me. Therefore, I trust that the bootleg market will pull through sooner or later.
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I try to stay away from making any type of political posts at all.
I think today's coffee was a little too strong and I was watching the news while I was working on the site.
I can get a little worked up sometimes when it comes to certain issues.
Most artist's who need to, or intentionally, stir up controversy to sell their product are not usually talented enough to make it without doing so.
Lou, you know I like metal music but I have never purchased a Marilyn Manson album. I like Ice-T as an actor, but I didn't buy the Body Count album. I do think that Eminem is talented, but I don't prefer that type of music.
Moore has (or had) the potential to be a good, if not great, film/documentary maker. However, outside of the political circle that follows him he has lost too much credibility because of his antics.
If you have talent, or a good product, you don't need to stir up shit for people to enjoy it.
Oh, and I never thought you were a tree hugger
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quote: Oh, and I never thought you were a tree hugger
I know you know me better than that Bro. I was just stating that in case any other person were reading.
quote: I think today's coffee was a little too strong and I was watching the news while I was working on the site.
I can get a little worked up sometimes when it comes to certain issues.
Nothing in the world wrong in getting worked up sometimes. I get worked up sometimes, actually most of the time myself. I think it just shows how strongly you feel about certain things, and I personally think it's better to pick a side when it's obvious to you than ride the fence over things in life.
quote: Moore has (or had) the potential to be a good, if not great, film/documentary maker. However, outside of the political circle that follows him he has lost too much credibility because of his antics.
If you have talent, or a good product, you don't need to stir up shit for people to enjoy it.
Ain't that the truth! I think a lot of shit-stirrers unknowingly slit their own throats in whatever field they're in before it's all said and done. They wind up losing credibility to the point of running off potential fans, and then get saddled with shock-effects with the fans they manage to keep around. In other words, their fans stop looking for quality in anything they do, and instead focus on what the next shock-effect will be. When things get less shocking, the fan jets.
Looks like our opinions are pretty much the same so far pertaining to Michael Moore. Anybody else have an opinion on Moore or this film?
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quote:Originally posted by Lou Gojira: My friend was furious at his findings in this book, and he's doing something about it. More on that later if you guys are interested in hearing about it...
Hey Lou, what's your friend doing about this? I'd like to hear the story.
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quote: I personally think it's better to pick a side when it's obvious to you than ride the fence over things in life.
The ability to express our opinions and "pick sides" is what I believe makes this a great COUNTRY.
I think this place would suck without the balance of Left Wing,Right Wing, TREE HUGGERS, FREE TRADE CAPITALIST, FENCE PEOPLE, PEROT WITH HIS PIE CHARTS etc... . I'm Not coming from the fence here LOU. I believe We cant always have just one flavor running the office of the most powerful COUNTRY in the world.The ability we have as a DEMOCRATIC society to change every four years(even though it's always going to be a DEMOCRAT or REPUBLICAN) is AWESOME.....ABSOLUTE POWER BREEDS ABSOLUTE CORRUPTION.DEMOCRACY prevents that
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quote:Originally posted by Lou Gojira: My friend was furious at his findings in this book, and he's doing something about it. More on that later if you guys are interested in hearing about it...
Hey Lou, what's your friend doing about this? I'd like to hear the story.
Let me drop my friend an e-mail to see if he'll grant me permission to post his doings. It may not be much, but this guy is at least doing something when a fatboy sensationalist exploits this politically correct double-standard that supposedly excuses any sort of open shit-talking about white people. He's inspired me to do some things myself, in particular against a certain editor of the local paper, who, to sort of give you a hint, is a black woman that enjoys and exploits her obvious position as "pissed off token black female" of the paper here in town. I'll let you know something as soon as I hear something. Thanks for your interest.
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quote: I personally think it's better to pick a side when it's obvious to you than ride the fence over things in life.
The ability to express our opinions and "pick sides" is what I believe makes this a great COUNTRY.
I think this place would suck without the balance of Left Wing,Right Wing, TREE HUGGERS, FREE TRADE CAPITALIST, FENCE PEOPLE, PEROT WITH HIS PIE CHARTS etc... . I'm Not coming from the fence here LOU. I believe We cant always have just one flavor running the office of the most powerful COUNTRY in the world.The ability we have as a DEMOCRATIC society to change every four years(even though it's always going to be a DEMOCRAT or REPUBLICAN) is AWESOME.....ABSOLUTE POWER BREEDS ABSOLUTE CORRUPTION.DEMOCRACY prevents that
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Very interesting take on things Miss Humble Foot-Model.
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I tried a few times to post the initial letter to Michael Moore that my friend wrote up last night, but was unsuccessful. I think the letter was way too massive to fit it all in the text box, being as there were bullet points on some of the lists he'd made, italics lettering, bold lettering, etc. So, if anybody wants to see where my young friend tore Moore a new proverbial asshole and clowned the fat son of a bitch, using his own words against him, and done very eloquently I might add, just say you want to see the letter and I'll forward you a copy to your e-mail.
This was just the start of my friend's project to hold Michael Moore accountable for the blatant hate and racism the fat prick felt the need to spread against white people. It's a pretty long read, but very rewarding. It's also guaranteed to fan the flames of hate you may already have for Michael Moore, and exposes him for the sensationalist and trouble-maker that he is.
So just give me the word, either by replying to this thread saying so, or by sending me a PM or e-mail, and I'll be more than happy to forward you a copy of my friend's e-mail, and the open challenge it presents to Michael Moore.
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