Does anybody own it or are thinking about getting it? or The Playstation 3 when it comes out in Nov? Your take on the next-gen consoles?
Posted by killa (Member # 8564) on :
i'm really looking forward to the ps3, but it's gonna cost an arm, a leg, and a virgin's soul to buy. $500 for the base system and $600 for a bigger harddrive?! i can get a 360 and a Wii (somebody at nintendo was high when they thought up that name) for that much money. i dont like sony's track record with homebrew either. although they say that they'll allow it by using linux, as soon as it starts gettin good, they'll try to stamp it out just like they did on the psp
Posted by Ticklingsolesmaster (Member # 14850) on :
Playstation 3 costs $500 to $600? WOW!!
I think i have that much in my bank account (since i rarely ever take money out) but still is a Next-Gen console worth it?
I only have playstation 2 right now since my xbox broke. So i'm thinking about buying a next-gen just don't know which system yet. But it's all about the games for me which ever games look more interesting.
For me it's narrowed down to 360 or playstation 3 (Nintendo has never interested me)
Posted by Sockratease (Member # 13891) on :
I still enjoy making my own games.
For consoles, the RPGMaker series is about all that holds my attention (even though the latest installment (3) was awful.
I'll wait until I see where RPGMaker 4 is going before I even think about such a purchase.
It's just too much money when my house needs work!
Posted by Lou Gojira (Member # 983) on :
I usually give all the new systems about a year before I go taking a plunge...seeing how the prices go, what kinds of games come out on each system, etc...
I don't see it taking a whole lot of analyzing this time out though. I may be wrong, but regardless of the fruity-assed name Nintendo decided to go with, I personally see the Wii coming out on top.
The XBox360, while possibly being a very good system, I predict will be having the same problem the Dreamcast did years ago...that is, people will start holding out to see what's right around the corner. Why sink the money into a system that's out now, if you can just hold out a little while longer and see if something better and maybe more affordable comes along? Don't get me wrong...I'm still pretty heart-broken over the fate of the Dreamcast and Sega as a hardware company. Sega however already had a MAJOR strike against them with the whole Saturn debacle (though I'm still a proud owner of one and a stack of good games), and in a way Microsoft has a strike against them with the XBox already. The XBox has, to my understanding, failed in Japan...and with a failure already under their belt, they're going to have a hard time attracting third party support for the XBox360...Japanese third party support anyway.
Anyway, with all of that said, I still see the XBox360 outselling the PS3 by a CONSIDERABLE margin. I mean, come on...$500 for a system?! Sorry folks, this ain't the 1990's and we're not talking about the Neo Geo. The Neo Geo NEVER cracked the mainstream market, but it did garner a strong and loyal following, allowing the system to survive upwards of 15 years, even with that expensive price tag. The reason for their strong and loyal following is simple: the Neo Geo brought real arcade games home, with the exact same hardware that was in their arcade consoles (hence the prices). Now-a-days, consoles can do arcade quality graphics at a fraction of the cost, so where can somebody justify dropping $500 on a system? Sony had better bust their ass landing some exclusive and amazing titles for that system, otherwise the mainstream market is going to elude them, and that system will never get out of "cult" status...and Sony ain't no SNK...I can't see them nursing along a system that only a secluded market at best worldwide will own.
That's why I see the Wii kicking some ass and chewing lots of bubblegum along the way. Aside from all the exclusive Nintendo franchises that will keep their fans happy (that new Zelda is lookin' mighty sweet!), the price of the system is speculated at $150 at launch! If Nintendo can pull this off, those systems are gonna sell like mad come Christmas. Yeah, the GameCube didn't necessarily sweep the American market this time out, but in Japan the system was a success, so the Japanese developers will surely be along for the ride.
Not only this, but Nintendo has secured where all us old-timers are going to go with their option to download classic games!!! All the 8-bit and 16-bit titles we know and love, 8-bit and 16-bit titles we've longed to play but couldn't find...I even understand that Sega and Hudson are in on this with Nintendo, so that means great games out the wah-zoo!
And then you have that new controller from Nintendo...talk about innovation! Pointing and aiming at the screen? Can you imagine all the gameplay possibilities that's going to open up? And if you don't like that, you can use the controllers for the GameCube, OR use the new "classic gaming" controller that closely resembles that of the PS2.
So that's my take on it...if Nintendo will launch the Wii at $150, I'm as good as there. Posted by vineofthorns (Member # 1313) on :
I think I'm going to get a 360 when the ps3 drops cause I'm sure microsoft will drop the price of it due to its competition.I also like to wait a wile before buying a new system due to the fact there's more software as time goes on,compared to when a system first drops.the wii I'm up in the air about.no doubt the zelda and metroid dropping on it looks great,I'm still gonna wait.the remote I can't fully comment about till I try it,but so far my opinion is along the same lines of what I thought about virtualboy when it first came out
Posted by Ticklingsolesmaster (Member # 14850) on :
I have to give some props to Nintendo though for making such a sleek and small and sexy console. The Wii looks like a high priced top notch top of the line stero sound system. And the remote is also sleek to be able to point it at the tv screen to play your video games on insted of the standard controller that you hold in your hands brillant idea.
(I might hold off just to see what type of games Nintendo has to offer before i make my purchase on one of the systems) even though nintendo has never really impressed me. But i could change my mind with the Wii it's that nice.
And i've heard that Resident Evil 5 is coming to both xbox 360 and Playstation 3 so that has me interested. Zombies?!! What more could you want
[ June 18, 2006, 04:49 PM: Message edited by: Ticklingsolesmaster ]
Posted by Ticklingsolesmaster (Member # 14850) on :
I'm sure what is going on or what you do at all in this game?
But it looks fun.
Posted by killa (Member # 8564) on :
$500 for a base syetem is steep, but i still have to see what the homebrew is like. the ps3 will have a linux-based OS that sony says will allow it. i wanna see what the devs do with it. i know for a fact that without homebrew, my psp would be in the trash
Posted by Lou Gojira (Member # 983) on :
quote:Originally posted by Ticklingsolesmaster: And i've heard that Resident Evil 5 is coming to both xbox 360 and Playstation 3 so that has me interested. Zombies?!! What more could you want
So far that's the only bad piece of news about the Wii...RE5 is going to the other two systems.
But on the up-side, Capcom has promised an all new Resident Evil game exclusive for the Wii to make use of that nifty new controller. I sure hope this is a solid, good, Resident Evil game and not some gimmicky romp that just has you wasting zombies or Plaga's with the controller. Time will tell... Posted by Ticklingsolesmaster (Member # 14850) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lou Gojira:
quote:Originally posted by Ticklingsolesmaster: And i've heard that Resident Evil 5 is coming to both xbox 360 and Playstation 3 so that has me interested. Zombies?!! What more could you want
But on the up-side, Capcom has promised an all new Resident Evil game exclusive for the Wii to make use of that nifty new controller. I sure hope this is a solid, good, Resident Evil game and not some gimmicky romp that just has you wasting zombies or Plaga's with the controller. Time will tell...
That is good news! i will have to keep updated on that game as well for Wii when more news about it comes handy and when the Wii finally launches. I heard in 2007 but things could change.
Posted by Ticklingsolesmaster (Member # 14850) on :
This is all greek to me. But some people might find this info useful.
PLAYSTATION 3 SPECIFICATIONS
CPU: Cell Processor PowerPC-base Core @3.2GHz --1 VMX vector unit per core --512KB L2 cache --7 x SPE @3.2GHz --7 x 128b 128 SIMD GPRs --7 x 256KB SRAM for SPE --*1 of 8 SPEs reserved for redundancy --Total floating point performance: 218 gigaflops
GPU RSX @ 550MHz --1.8 TFLOPS floating point Performance --Full HD (up to 1080p) x 2 channels --Multi-way programmable parallel Floating point shader pipelines --Sound Dolby 5.1ch, DTS, LPCM, etc. (Cell-based processing)
MEMORY 256MB XDR Main RAM @3.2GHz 256MB GDDR3 VRAM @700MHz System Bandwidth Main RAM-- 25.6GB/s VRAM--22.4GB/s RSX-- 20GB/s (write) + 15GB/s (read) SB2.5GB/s (write) + 2.5GB/s (read)
SYSTEM FLOATING POINT PERFORMANCE: 2 teraflops
STORAGE --HDD Detachable 2.5" HDD slot x 1 --I/O--USB Front x 4, Rear x 2 (USB2.0) --Memory Stickstandard/Duo, PRO x 1 --SD standard/mini x 1 --CompactFlash(Type I, II) x 1
COMMUNICATION --Ethernet (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T) x 3 (input x 1 + output x 2) --Wi-Fi IEEE 802.11 b/g --Bluetooth--Bluetooth 2.0 (EDR) --ControllerBluetooth (up to 7) --USB 2.0 (wired) --Wi-Fi (PSP) --Network (over IP)
AV OUTPUT Screen size 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p HDMI out x 2 AV multi out x 1 Digital out (optical) x 1
DISC MEDIA CD PlayStation CD-ROM PlayStation2 CD-ROM CD-DA CD-DA (ROM), CD-R, CD-RW SACD Hybrid (CD layer), SACD HD DualDisc (audio side) DualDisc (DVD side) PlayStation 2 DVD-ROM PlayStation 3 DVD-ROM DVD-ROM DVD-R DVD-RW DVD+R, DVD+RW Blu-ray Disc PlayStation 3 BD-ROM BD-ROM BD
Posted by Skorpius (Member # 10122) on :
I totally agree with Lou Gojira. My point of view is that the Xbox 360 just doesn't have enough 3rd party support at the moment. I do own a 360 and the only games I play on it are DOA 4 and Rumble Roses. I was thinking about getting FIFA 2005/6 but would rather wait till it drops in price. The only other reason why I would have gotten a 360 was for Halo 3 but that isn't gonna happen for awhile (or ever at all). I also have a Gamecube and PS2 but I only play games that I know and like. Metroid, Mario Bros, Bomberman, Guitar Hero, Metal Gear Solid, GT3/GT4, Castlevania. These are the brands that Nintendo and Sony has created.
Posted by Ticklingsolesmaster (Member # 14850) on :
Nintendo Wii Specifications
The cool look: The new console boasts high-quality materials and a smart, compact design, approximately the size of three standard DVD cases stacked together. A variety of prototype colors are being showcased during E3. It will come with a silver stand that makes the system a welcome, artistic component of any multimedia setup, whether it's displayed vertically or horizontally Backward compatibility: The new console plays all games from the current Nintendo GameCubeTM generation. But there's more. The secret weapon: The console also will have downloadable access to 20 years of fan-favorite titles originally released for NintendoŽ 64, the Super Nintendo Entertainment SystemŽ (SNES) and even the Nintendo Entertainment SystemŽ (NES Easy expansion: A bay for an SD memory card will let players expand the internal flash memory Two disc formats, one slot: Instead of a tray, a single, innovative, self-loading media bay will play both 12-centimeter optical discs used for the new system as well as Nintendo GameCube discs. Owners will have the option of equipping a small, self-contained attachment to play movies and other DVD content The specs: The system boasts 512 megabytes of internal flash memory, wireless controllers, two USB 2.0 ports and built-in Wi-Fi access. A worldwide network of Nintendo players can gather to compete in a comfortable, inviting environment. Revolution's technological heart, a processing chip developed with IBM and code-named "Broadway," and a graphics chip set from ATI code-named "Hollywood," will deliver game experiences not previously possible The stars: Introduction of a number of new franchise properties will add to the world's richest stable of stars, including Mario, Zelda, Super Smash Bros., Donkey Kong and Metroid Wireless freedom: A number of Wi-Fi-enabled launch titles are in development that will employ Nintendo's newly announced wireless gaming service, NintendoŽ Wi-Fi Connection. A worldwide network of Nintendo players can gather to compete in a comfortable, inviting environment Freedom of design: A dynamic development architecture equally accommodates both big-budget, high-profile game "masterpieces" as well as indie games conceived by individual developers equipped with only a big idea Features of the Nintendo Wii Controls: Intuitive control for anyone using the physical motion of the main Wii Remote, which resembles a television remote control. Up to four Wii Remotes can be connected at once using wireless Bluetooth technology. The wireless signal can be detected within 10 meters of the console. Both the Wii Remote and Nunchuk controllers include a three-axis motion sensor. The Wii Remote also includes a speaker, rumble feature and expansion port, and can be used as a pointer within 5 meters of the screen. The Wii Remote has a power switch, plus pad, A, B, Minus, Home, 1 and 2 buttons. The Nunchuk controller includes an analog control stick and C and Z buttons.
The Look: Wii features a compact design that will make it a natural addition to any television setup. It can be displayed either vertically or horizontally.
Media: A single self-loading media bay will play single- or double-layered 12-centimeter optical discs for Wii, as well as 8-centimeter Nintendo GameCube discs.
Communication: Wii can communicate with the Internet even when the power is turned off. This WiiConnect24 service delivers a new surprise or game update, even if users do not play with Wii. Users can connect wirelessly using IEEE 802.11b/g, or with a USB 2.0 LAN adaptor. Wii also can communicate wirelessly with Nintendo DS.
Virtual Console: Wii will have downloadable access to 20 years of fan-favorite titles originally released for Nintendo 64, the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (SNES) and even the Nintendo Entertainment System (NES). The Virtual Console also will feature a "best of" selection from Sega Genesis titles and games from the TurboGrafx console (a system jointly developed by NEC and Hudson). It also will be home to new games conceived by indie developers whose creativity is larger than their budgets.
The Specs: Wii boasts 512 megabytes of internal flash memory, two USB 2.0 ports and built-in Wi-Fi capability. A bay for an SD memory card will let players expand the internal flash memory. Design was optimized with state-of-the-art processing technologies that minimize power consumption, keep the console compact and enable the "sleepless" WiiConnect24 mode.
CPU: PowerPC CPU (code-named "Broadway"). Made with a 90 nm SOI CMOS process, jointly developed with and manufactured by IBM.
Graphics Processing Unit: Being developed with ATI.
Other Features: Four ports for classic Nintendo GameCube controllers. Two slots for Nintendo GameCube Memory Cards. An AV Multi-output port for component, composite or S-video.
Posted by Tony The Shredder (Member # 2912) on :
Great tech specs. My first objective is to get a 360 on my b'day and the Wii after the holiday season.
Posted by Ticklingsolesmaster (Member # 14850) on :
quote:Originally posted by Tony The Shredder: My first objective is to get a 360 on my b'day
Happy early birthday (whenever it is)
Why are you getting a 360 over the playstation 3?
(I don't own either one right now at least!) so i'm just curious
Posted by Lou Gojira (Member # 983) on :
quote:Originally posted by Skorpius: I also have a Gamecube and PS2 but I only play games that I know and like.
That's me...though I have a lot of favoritism toward Nintendo (they are afterall the last DEDICATED GAME COMPANY in the hardware market) and I want the Wii to be my next console, I'll go where the games are eventually. I got a GameCube and figured that'd be the end of it for a while, but now I also own a PS2 because of Gradius V (yeah, it's dumb to let a single game sell you on a system, but I couldn't help myself), and eventually accrued a nice stack of titles for it as well. Who knows...if the PS3 or the 360 get some ass-kicking titles exclusive to them and I can afford it, I'll get those systems sooner or later too. It's all about the games... Posted by Ticklingsolesmaster (Member # 14850) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lou Gojira: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Skorpius: [qb]I want the Wii to be my next console, I'll go where the games are eventually.
Are you going to buy the Wii the first day when it comes out Lou or are you going to hold off for a few weeks to see what titles are going to launch with it?
Posted by scarlet (Member # 2117) on :
I will eventually have all three. I want a ps3 first, but I don't see myself having 600 dollars for one for quite some time.
Posted by Lou Gojira (Member # 983) on :
quote: Are you going to buy the Wii the first day when it comes out Lou or are you going to hold off for a few weeks to see what titles are going to launch with it?
I've never bought a system the first day it hit the shelves, but I like to think that I'll have myself a Wii within the first month or two of it's release (situations can always change between now and then though). If they can release that sucker at $150, at that price and the new Zelda-Twilight Princess game, along with all those 8 and 16-bit titles up for download are enough to seal the deal for me.
Of course, if Resident Evil 5 was going to the Wii as a launch title I'd have the system within the first week! Posted by scarlet (Member # 2117) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lou Gojira:
quote: Are you going to buy the Wii the first day when it comes out Lou or are you going to hold off for a few weeks to see what titles are going to launch with it?
I've never bought a system the first day it hit the shelves, but I like to think that I'll have myself a Wii within the first month or two of it's release (situations can always change between now and then though). If they can release that sucker at $150, at that price and the new Zelda-Twilight Princess game, along with all those 8 and 16-bit titles up for download are enough to seal the deal for me.
Of course, if Resident Evil 5 was going to the Wii as a launch title I'd have the system within the first week!
I don't even think RE 5 is going to be on the Wii at all. =\ Just 360 and PS3
Posted by Lou Gojira (Member # 983) on :
quote: I don't even think RE 5 is going to be on the Wii at all. =\ Just 360 and PS3
That's the way it's looking for the time being Bro...
I might be hopelessly optimistic, but I almost see RE5 going to the Wii eventually...providing the sales of the system are good and the user base is established. Capcom's never been one to pass on ports of good selling games so long as it lined their pockets all nice and fat. Heck, I've got a copy of RE4 on the GameCube with an "only for" tag in the upper left corner, but as we all know it found it's way to the PS2...and with extra goodies! I'm kinda' predicting that happening again...they'll release RE5 on the 360 and PS3 knowing it's money in the bank for all involved, but then turn right around and do an expanded version of the game later on for the Wii. I've got two fingers crossed on that happening...
And in the meantime we'll get an all-new Resident Evil made specifically for the Wii's special controller! I even see this one making it to the PS3 and 360 later on, providing Sony and Microsoft come out with something that will allow for similar play mechanics. Posted by Ticklingsolesmaster (Member # 14850) on :
quote:Originally posted by scarlet:
quote:Originally posted by Lou Gojira:
quote: Are you going to buy the Wii the first day when it comes out Lou or are you going to hold off for a few weeks to see what titles are going to launch with it?
I've never bought a system the first day it hit the shelves, but I like to think that I'll have myself a Wii within the first month or two of it's release (situations can always change between now and then though). If they can release that sucker at $150, at that price and the new Zelda-Twilight Princess game, along with all those 8 and 16-bit titles up for download are enough to seal the deal for me.
Of course, if Resident Evil 5 was going to the Wii as a launch title I'd have the system within the first week!
I don't even think RE 5 is going to be on the Wii at all. =\ Just 360 and PS3
It's more then likely not going to be.
Capcom is supposed to be making a whole brand new Resident Evil Game for the Wii when it launches. Just like Lou Gojira said. It should be interesting though to see what Capcom does with the new game and what route they go with it and take it.
Posted by Ticklingsolesmaster (Member # 14850) on :
[ June 22, 2006, 05:26 AM: Message edited by: Ticklingsolesmaster ]
Posted by Lou Gojira (Member # 983) on :
quote: The Launch title games for the Nintendo Wii (already confirmed)
SWEET!
Zelda Elebits Super Monkey Ball
Yeap, I'll be picking myself up a Wii within a month of its release.
By the way Ticklingsolesmaster, you had wondered at one point what Elebits would play like. I read something at work today about it being a sort of cross between Katamari Damacy (an extraordinary game) and Half Life 2 (which I have never played). It's got free-roaming environments where you run around using a "gravity gun" (I'm guessing this is the Half Life aspect), shooting items and grabbing them, then throwing everything around as you try to hunt down the little Elebits as they run from you. It's basically a point and shoot game that really utilizes the remote for the Wii. Going on the pics I've seen and the way this sounds, it sounds like addiction waiting to happen for me. Posted by Ticklingsolesmaster (Member # 14850) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lou Gojira:
quote: The Launch title games for the Nintendo Wii (already confirmed)
By the way Ticklingsolesmaster, you had wondered at one point what Elebits would play like. I read something at work today about it being a sort of cross between Katamari Damacy (an extraordinary game) and Half Life 2 (which I have never played). It's got free-roaming environments where you run around using a "gravity gun" (I'm guessing this is the Half Life aspect), shooting items and grabbing them, then throwing everything around as you try to hunt down the little Elebits as they run from you. It's basically a point and shoot game that really utilizes the remote for the Wii. Going on the pics I've seen and the way this sounds, it sounds like addiction waiting to happen for me.
Elebits kind of sounds like Pikmin and Pikmin 2 for the Gamecube. I've never played a Gamecube or the game Pikmin games though but from your description it just sounds like a game sort of like that
This sounds like another game i will have to get for the Wii. I heard it is supposed to launch around Octobor (Given that they have all the bugs worked out and tested and the final products that they want for both the Wii and Controller so it can be shipped and ready to go)
Posted by Lou Gojira (Member # 983) on :
quote: This sounds like another game i will have to get for the Wii. I heard it is supposed to launch around Octobor (Given that they have all the bugs worked out and tested and the final products that they want for both the Wii and Controller so it can be shipped and ready to go)
October? Sounds good to me. If it can hit the shelves at $150, Nintendo is gonna clean house in time for Christmas!
http://www.somethingawful.com/index.php?a=3852 Funny as hell, and thank God we don't sound like these guys in discussing game systems. Posted by Ticklingsolesmaster (Member # 14850) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lou Gojira:
quote: This sounds like another game i will have to get for the Wii. I heard it is supposed to launch around Octobor (Given that they have all the bugs worked out and tested and the final products that they want for both the Wii and Controller so it can be shipped and ready to go)
October? Sounds good to me. If it can hit the shelves at $150, Nintendo is gonna clean house in time for Christmas!
That was so funnny! I'm not that geeky about video game systems
And about the price i've heard on other video game forums for the Wii is from $150 or less to even up to close $250 So i guess Nintendo is still guessing over the price
Posted by Lou Gojira (Member # 983) on :
quote: And about the price i've heard on other video game forums for the Wii is from $150 or less to even up to close $250 So i guess Nintendo is still guessing over the price
I've heard that too, which is why I'm not getting too anxious about the price just yet. I still say that if Nintendo can swing the $150 admission fee, they will more than make up any losses they take on that system in 2007. Every company takes a beating in hardware, but as is usually the case they make up for it in software sales...which is why I can't understand Sony's approach to this next generation of video gaming. If they were to somehow manage to get the PS3 on the shelves for $200-$250, I would be ready to play a death march for Nintendo as a hardware company. How Sony can realistically expect the general public to swing $400-$500 for a game system, and with the economy in the terrible shape it's in, is beyond me.
Posted by Ticklingsolesmaster (Member # 14850) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lou Gojira: [QUOTE]How Sony can realistically expect the general public to swing $400-$500 for a game system, and with the economy in the terrible shape it's in, is beyond me.
Believe you me some people will pay no matter how much for a video game system. It's all about the games (and it should be for each system) The graphics are nice and all but you buy your system for the type of games that you want to play and the type of games that interest you. And i also might get a playstation 3 (it's just a thought at this point) as seeing as how my birthday is coming up in Nov the release of the playstation 3.
But right now i'm still leaning real heavy on the getting the Wii for my birthday present! I'm just kind of weighing my opinions
But your right Sony should have cut the cost and brought the price down tads more say around $250 to $300 then more people will be ready to buy it and pre-order. But i'm sure thier is still plenty of people that will buy the playstation 3 (maybe NOT right away) but soon over a period of months.
Posted by Lou Gojira (Member # 983) on :
No doubt Bro...some folks are going to buy the PS3 come hell or high-water, but how many of these kinds of people make up the bulk of the market?
I could be mistaken, but the PS2 caught on for two main reasons: you could watch your DVD's on the thing, and it had more than a fair share of games that would appeal to the casual gamers. I'm not knocking these titles or the folks who enjoy them, but when you have all the Madden's, GTA's, Tony Hawk's, Final Fantasy's, a buttload of sports titles, driving sim's out the wazoo, etc...that'd turn the head of most people out there as opposed to, say, Ikaruga, Wario Ware, or P.N.03...games that would appeal to the hardcore gamers...
Hardcore gamers are folks I can see willing to shell out the big bucks. Casual gamers? Sorry...I don't see it happening.
On the flipside, Nintendo has suffered a stereotype for years, and yes, it was of their own doing...casual observers tend to see Nintendo as a "kiddy" company. These people, from what I understand, make up a great portion of the casual gamer market, so if nothing else, these casual gamers may go with the 360 as a cheaper alternative to the PS3.
Just thinking outloud... Posted by Ticklingsolesmaster (Member # 14850) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lou Gojira: No doubt Bro...some folks are going to buy the PS3 come hell or high-water, but how many of these kinds of people make up the bulk of the market?
I could be mistaken, but the PS2 caught on for two main reasons: you could watch your DVD's on the thing, and it had more than a fair share of games that would appeal to the casual gamers. I'm not knocking these titles or the folks who enjoy them, but when you have all the Madden's, GTA's, Tony Hawk's, Final Fantasy's, a buttload of sports titles, driving sim's out the wazoo, etc...that'd turn the head of most people out there as opposed to, say, Ikaruga, Wario Ware, or P.N.03...games that would appeal to the hardcore gamers...
Hardcore gamers are folks I can see willing to shell out the big bucks. Casual gamers? Sorry...I don't see it happening.
On the flipside, Nintendo has suffered a stereotype for years, and yes, it was of their own doing...casual observers tend to see Nintendo as a "kiddy" company. These people, from what I understand, make up a great portion of the casual gamer market, so if nothing else, these casual gamers may go with the 360 as a cheaper alternative to the PS3.
Just thinking outloud...
Nintendo is seen as a ''kiddy'' console and company because they don't have any likes of Halo or Tekken series or some type of great shooter that will put them on the map as a real console. And frankly i do not ever see Nintendo appealing and wanting to become a more mature console and trying to make a game like a Halo for nintendo based fans to say to the rest of the playstation and xbox owners that they should not be seen as a ''kiddy'' company no longer.
Even with thier new controller idea and sleek new console people are still going to see nintendo as ''kiddy''
But i don't agree with being loyal to one gaming console anyways. Maybe you do. But i say
if there are games you like on xbox 360 then buy a 360,if there are games you like on the Wii then buy a Wii,if there are games you like on playstation 3 then buy a playstation 3. Because in the long run gaming consoles are about games not weather this gaming console is ''kiddy'' and this one isn't.
Posted by Lou Gojira (Member # 983) on :
quote: But i don't agree with being loyal to one gaming console anyways. Maybe you do. But i say
if there are games you like on xbox 360 then buy a 360,if there are games you like on the Wii then buy a Wii,if there are games you like on playstation 3 then buy a playstation 3. Because in the long run gaming consoles are about games not weather this gaming console is ''kiddy'' and this one isn't.
I agree with you...gotta go where the games are!
I know a girl who, back in the day, was so loyal to Nintendo because of the 8-bit NES, that she didn't even give the Genesis the benefit of the doubt. When I got the chance, I showed her some of the amazing games on the Sega Genesis, and said something like: "See where product loyalty gets you? Look at all this stuff you missed out on!" Her reply, if I remember right, was: "But I was happy..." Posted by Ticklingsolesmaster (Member # 14850) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lou Gojira:
quote: But i don't agree with being loyal to one gaming console anyways. Maybe you do. But i say
if there are games you like on xbox 360 then buy a 360,if there are games you like on the Wii then buy a Wii,if there are games you like on playstation 3 then buy a playstation 3. Because in the long run gaming consoles are about games not weather this gaming console is ''kiddy'' and this one isn't.
I agree with you...gotta go where the games are!
I know a girl who, back in the day, was so loyal to Nintendo because of the 8-bit NES, that she didn't even give the Genesis the benefit of the doubt. When I got the chance, I showed her some of the amazing games on the Sega Genesis, and said something like: "See where product loyalty gets you? Look at all this stuff you missed out on!" Her reply, if I remember right, was: "But I was happy..."
You should go to some other gaming forums or Myspace.com video game forum section for a good EXAMPLE of how stupid and ass holes people can be about fan boys and about video games ingeneral! it's real funny to see another person bash someone else for likeing this console because it's ''kiddy like'' or bashing this preview for a next-gen video game and saying that it will be suck based on a few screen shots without geting thier hands on the game before it comes out.
Next-gen console war talks is pretty pointless to me.
Posted by Lou Gojira (Member # 983) on :
quote: You should go to some other gaming forums or Myspace.com video game forum section for a good EXAMPLE of how stupid and ass holes people can be about fan boys and about video games ingeneral!
I know what you mean Bro...it gets really sad when you see people getting all hateful divisive over a hobby that's supposed to be enjoyed. Why can't people simply have preferences without hating other choices? I just don't get it... Posted by Ticklingsolesmaster (Member # 14850) on :
Are the Wii consoles already taking pre-order sales in select stores and online do you know anything about that Lou?
Because i saw on some other nintendo forums online that some members said that they were.
Posted by Lou Gojira (Member # 983) on :
quote:Originally posted by Ticklingsolesmaster: Are the Wii consoles already taking pre-order sales in select stores and online do you know anything about that Lou?
Because i saw on some other nintendo forums online that some members said that they were.
Hmmm...that's news to me. I hadn't heard...
I'll just wait and snag myself one when they hit the stores. I need some time to squirrel away the money. Posted by Ticklingsolesmaster (Member # 14850) on :
quote:Originally posted by Lou Gojira:
quote:Originally posted by Ticklingsolesmaster: Are the Wii consoles already taking pre-order sales in select stores and online do you know anything about that Lou?
Because i saw on some other nintendo forums online that some members said that they were.
Hmmm...that's news to me. I hadn't heard...
I'll just wait and snag myself one when they hit the stores. I need some time to squirrel away the money.
Same here i'll be saving up my money (even though i already have ENOUGH money for the Wii) i'll still save up some extra money for that retro controller or Light Gun
Nintendo has a big secret Lou? You would know more about this then i would i'm sure. So i thought i would pass along this thread to you about it
quote: Nintendo has a big secret Lou? You would know more about this then i would i'm sure.
Thanks for the nice words Bro, but honestly, I'm as in the dark as anybody over what this big secret could be. Nintendo started getting tight-lipped over their projects ever since they felt that they were ripped off over the whole rumbling controller novelty. I believe it was Miyamoto himself who said: "We do it...then everybody else does it!"
Don't be too surprised if Nintendo drops a bomb of a surprise come release day...a good bomb of course. A $99 system bomb would be sweet...
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