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Originally posted by Athena K:
im 19.

im sorry, but the comment about how anyone who has a public profile is an online dater is something that my father would say. or someone on talk back radio.

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funny coming from somebody that met their "boyfriend" on facebook



you're young, some day you will realize that daddy knows best

[ June 12, 2009, 02:09 PM: Message edited by: Michael P ]
 

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Posted by Michael P (Member # 1922) on :
 

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Originally posted by A&F_FootDude_05:
Michael P is right...I've seen dozens and dozens of people have the looking for friendship bull and suddenly end up in a relationship.

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of course

online dating is still considered to be a little taboo, people worry about looking desperate if they say they are looking for dates

i've seen girls with boyfriends have all of their "regular" pics up on these sites, once the relationship ends coincidentally they add "sexy" pics to their profile

all while claiming to be "looking for friendship"
 

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Posted by Athena K (Member # 33809) on :
 
wow the patronisation in this thread is almost overwhelming. and michael, regardless of your own personal ideas, can you please not put inverted commas around boyfriend.

i know of countless people who have public profiles. They make that choice simply because it makes it easier for old acquaintences to find them, because it makes their photos more accesible (of nights out and things) to people who were there but who arent their 'friends' or because they simply cant be bothered learning how to turn it off.

as for the fact that no one can be looking for 'friendship'... maybe because some people arent secure enough in themselves to be single, and enjoy that life, happy to have brief relationships, or no relationships at all... doesnt mean no one is. i feel sorry for anyone who thinks that 'out of a relationship' means 'looking for a relationship.

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Originally posted by Michael P:
i've seen girls with boyfriends have all of their "regular" pics up on these sites, once the relationship ends coincidentally they add "sexy" pics to their profile

all while claiming to be "looking for friendship"

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Originally posted by Michael P:
if you are single and you have a public myspace or facebook account, you are an online dater

the people that claim to be "looking for friendship" are full of shit

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Originally posted by Michael P:
funny coming from somebody that met their "boyfriend" on facebook

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Odd how I was actually after another girl whilst I was friends with Athena at the time...
And no - she didn't knock me back
- and no she still isn't in a relationship to this day - about a year later
- And yes she still expresses a degree of interest in me.
So...explain that maybe? (perhaps an attempt at maturity too - I say this because it actually makes your argument...work better - up to you, anyway).
 

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Posted by Michael P (Member # 1922) on :
 

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Originally posted by Athena K:
wow the patronisation in this thread is almost overwhelming. and michael, regardless of your own personal ideas, can you please not put inverted commas around boyfriend.

i know of countless people who have public profiles. They make that choice simply because it makes it easier for old acquaintences to find them, because it makes their photos more accesible (of nights out and things) to people who were there but who arent their 'friends' or because they simply cant be bothered learning how to turn it off.

as for the fact that no one can be looking for 'friendship'... maybe because some people arent secure enough in themselves to be single, and enjoy that life, happy to have brief relationships, or no relationships at all... doesnt mean no one is. i feel sorry for anyone who thinks that 'out of a relationship' means 'looking for a relationship.

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Originally posted by Michael P:
i've seen girls with boyfriends have all of their "regular" pics up on these sites, once the relationship ends coincidentally they add "sexy" pics to their profile

all while claiming to be "looking for friendship"

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and as for that - as a someone with a boyfriend, out of respect for him there is no way i would put provocative pictures of myself on my facebook. i doubt that i would even do it if i was single, but if a girl thinks she looks hot in a picture, and she doesnt have to worry about what her bf thinks, then why shuouldnt she put it up?

this will probably be my last post about this topic. even tho i, and most of the other people on my side of the argument, have tried to present logical theories about it, while not trying to offend of ostracise, it is sad that the same cant be said of those with opposing views.

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Originally posted by Andy-Laa:

quote:

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Originally posted by Michael P:
if you are single and you have a public myspace or facebook account, you are an online dater

the people that claim to be "looking for friendship" are full of shit

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Originally posted by Michael P:
funny coming from somebody that met their "boyfriend" on facebook

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Odd how I was actually after another girl whilst I was friends with Athena at the time...
And no - she didn't knock me back
- and no she still isn't in a relationship to this day - about a year later
- And yes she still expresses a degree of interest in me.
So...explain that maybe? (perhaps an attempt at maturity too - I say this because it actually makes your argument...work better - up to you, anyway).

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Originally posted by Michael P:
honestly i don't understand what you are trying to say with your post

other than you somehow being offended over me pointing out the fact you met your girl on facebook

people with public online profiles use them for dating, you of all people should know this

deal with it

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Deal with what...? You must be really unconvincing in - for example expressing political beliefs if your "argument" is "deal with it" - there are different takes and opinions on things - different theories...you aren't the say-all and know all of the universe.

So...I'm offended? - where's this come from?

Erm - not the content that's childish, the sarcastic undertone I was referring to. Guess you failed...nvm.

And you've just completely contradicted the fact I made about how I was using it for FRIENDSHIP whilst chasing another girl...does that not blow holes in your little "dating" theory?
 

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Posted by LeDaemon (Member # 198) on :
 
Actually my Facebook profile IS only for catching up with friends, relatives, and old acquaintances that do a search for me. Only people on mine are folks I actually know personally and have met in the flesh.

My brother used to use online dating and meet women that way.
 

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Posted by bluetoelover (Member # 14736) on :
 
Mike is right, although from what I can gather from Mike vs Athena/Andy argument is all that Mike was saying was people on FB or Myspace that have their profile info as "looking for friendship" are usually full of shit because FB is a great way to hook up with people such is the case with Andy and Athena. Mike didn't bash you guys for hooking up on FB but just stated a fact, no need to start an argument over it fellas.

As for online dating, why not use it? If I was single I'd use it for sure. Just gives me one more avenue to pick up, not gonna lie

Feel free to add me to FB btw...PM me because everyone in this thread is cool and I wouldn't mind having you on my FB.
 

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Posted by Andy-Laa (Member # 31511) on :
 

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Originally posted by bluetoelover:
Mike is right, although from what I can gather from Mike vs Athena/Andy argument is all that Mike was saying was people on FB or Myspace that have their profile info as "looking for friendship" are usually full of shit because FB is a great way to hook up with people such is the case with Andy and Athena. Mike didn't bash you guys for hooking up on FB but just stated a fact, no need to start an argument over it fellas.

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Nah - this is a pick-up of a debate (not argument) we were having before on another thread; he claimed that there is no conceivable way one could fall in love and maintain a faithful relationship over the internet and that's wrong - as proven by evidence.
 

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Posted by bluetoelover (Member # 14736) on :
 
Well falling in love over the internet is hard to imagine, assuming the couple has never met in the flesh as in never kissed never held hands etc. More of a "in love with the idea of being in love". I commend you and Athena for being able to maintain a long distance relationship that is able to remain faithful.
 

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Posted by Andy-Laa (Member # 31511) on :
 

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Originally posted by bluetoelover:
Well falling in love over the internet is hard to imagine, assuming the couple has never met in the flesh as in never kissed never held hands etc.

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Originally posted by bluetoelover:
I commend you and Athena for being able to maintain a long distance relationship that is able to remain faithful.

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Thanks for that
 

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Posted by FootLongSub Zero (Member # 19380) on :
 
*sweats* "What a thread" ...
 

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Posted by Michael P (Member # 1922) on :
 

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Originally posted by LeDaemon:
Actually my Facebook profile IS only for catching up with friends, relatives, and old acquaintances that do a search for me. Only people on mine are folks I actually know personally and have met in the flesh.

My brother used to use online dating and meet women that way.

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Originally posted by Andy-Laa:

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Originally posted by Michael P:
honestly i don't understand what you are trying to say with your post

other than you somehow being offended over me pointing out the fact you met your girl on facebook

people with public online profiles use them for dating, you of all people should know this

deal with it

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Deal with what...? You must be really unconvincing in - for example expressing political beliefs if your "argument" is "deal with it" - there are different takes and opinions on things - different theories...you aren't the say-all and know all of the universe.

So...I'm offended? - where's this come from?

Erm - not the content that's childish, the sarcastic undertone I was referring to. Guess you failed...nvm.

And you've just completely contradicted the fact I made about how I was using it for FRIENDSHIP whilst chasing another girl...does that not blow holes in your little "dating" theory?

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your thoughts on this can't be taken seriously when you met your girl on facebook

it just proves the fact single people with a public profile on myspace or facebook use it for dating and are open to using it for dating

they just can't admit it, case in point YOU!
 

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Posted by Michael P (Member # 1922) on :
 

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Originally posted by bluetoelover:
Mike is right, although from what I can gather from Mike vs Athena/Andy argument is all that Mike was saying was people on FB or Myspace that have their profile info as "looking for friendship" are usually full of shit because FB is a great way to hook up with people such is the case with Andy and Athena. Mike didn't bash you guys for hooking up on FB but just stated a fact, no need to start an argument over it fellas.

As for online dating, why not use it? If I was single I'd use it for sure. Just gives me one more avenue to pick up, not gonna lie

Feel free to add me to FB btw...PM me because everyone in this thread is cool and I wouldn't mind having you on my FB.

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i can always count on you to see things for what they are
 

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Posted by Michael P (Member # 1922) on :
 

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Originally posted by Andy-Laa:

quote:

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Originally posted by bluetoelover:
Mike is right, although from what I can gather from Mike vs Athena/Andy argument is all that Mike was saying was people on FB or Myspace that have their profile info as "looking for friendship" are usually full of shit because FB is a great way to hook up with people such is the case with Andy and Athena. Mike didn't bash you guys for hooking up on FB but just stated a fact, no need to start an argument over it fellas.

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Nah - this is a pick-up of a debate (not argument) we were having before on another thread; he claimed that there is no conceivable way one could fall in love and maintain a faithful relationship over the internet and that's wrong - as proven by evidence.

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Originally posted by blackHxC88:
most people use facebook or myspace as dating profiles, but don't admit it. i use it for friends, because i'm too ugly for anyone to stumble on my profile and say "omfg, he so cute" *cue sexy profile pics*

lol

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Originally posted by Michael P:
we can't say your e-relationship works until you actually meet with each other in person, if the "magic" is still there i will admit to being wrong

and yes there are exceptions to every rule in life [/QB]

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Originally posted by Andy-Laa:

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Originally posted by Michael P:
we can't say your e-relationship works until you actually meet with each other in person, if the "magic" is still there i will admit to being wrong

and yes there are exceptions to every rule in life

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Well I'll tell you all about it when we have Christmas and New Year's 2009 together then. And that last line is such a cop-out btw...I mean "I am always right...except sometimes" is basically what that means. Stand by your statement if you're going to make one; don't start looking for ways to get out of being proven wrong by having something to refer back to later. [/QB]

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no cop out whatsoever, again just pointing out facts that there are exceptions to every rule, like being struck by lightning

but since you want me to be totally honest, your e-relationship won't work in the long run, infact you will some day laugh at how silly it was and wonder to yourself "what the hell was I thinking?"

hope this helps
 

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Posted by Michael P (Member # 1922) on :
 

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Originally posted by Andy-Laa:

quote:

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Originally posted by blackHxC88:
most people use facebook or myspace as dating profiles, but don't admit it. i use it for friends, because i'm too ugly for anyone to stumble on my profile and say "omfg, he so cute" *cue sexy profile pics*

lol

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If there's THIS many people saying it - perhaps I'm wrong...but I never did actively look for women on it...I mean why WOULD I start (or try to start) a relationship with a girl literally as far away from me as she can be?

It was a chance relationship is what I'm trying to say - yes, we're together, but NO neither of us planned it. We're just happy it happened.

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Originally posted by Michael P:
by having a public online profile and being single, you are open to meeting somebody off the net, which means you do online dating

just because it's not called "facebook personals" doesn't mean you aren't

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Originally posted by Michael P:
]but since you want me to be totally honest, your e-relationship won't work in the long run, infact you will some day laugh at how silly it was and wonder to yourself "what the hell was I thinking?"

hope this helps

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Lol!! - looks like I poked the bear ^_^. I take it you know what sardonic means...though, perhaps that's a little too much to assume...anyways - okay.
 

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Posted by blackHxC88 (Member # 15094) on :
 
i'm jealous of andy's relationship, wishing i had something like that

congrats
 

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Posted by Michael P (Member # 1922) on :
 
how old are you, andy?
 

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Posted by PublicName (Member # 12270) on :
 
Most people who use myspace or facebook are just using it to talk to old friends or have different ways to contact people they already know, lol...
 

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Posted by PublicName (Member # 12270) on :
 

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Originally posted by Michael P:

quote:

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Originally posted by Andy-Laa:

quote:

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Originally posted by blackHxC88:
most people use facebook or myspace as dating profiles, but don't admit it. i use it for friends, because i'm too ugly for anyone to stumble on my profile and say "omfg, he so cute" *cue sexy profile pics*

lol

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If there's THIS many people saying it - perhaps I'm wrong...but I never did actively look for women on it...I mean why WOULD I start (or try to start) a relationship with a girl literally as far away from me as she can be?

It was a chance relationship is what I'm trying to say - yes, we're together, but NO neither of us planned it. We're just happy it happened.

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by having a public online profile and being single, you are open to meeting somebody off the net, which means you do online dating

just because it's not called "facebook personals" doesn't mean you aren't

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Originally posted by PublicName:
i don't even know that many people who add people they don't know personally on facebook/myspace, so that doesn't seem to make much sense either, lol..either way you're very close minded.

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Originally posted by PublicName:

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Originally posted by Michael P:

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Originally posted by Andy-Laa:

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Originally posted by blackHxC88:
most people use facebook or myspace as dating profiles, but don't admit it. i use it for friends, because i'm too ugly for anyone to stumble on my profile and say "omfg, he so cute" *cue sexy profile pics*

lol

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If there's THIS many people saying it - perhaps I'm wrong...but I never did actively look for women on it...I mean why WOULD I start (or try to start) a relationship with a girl literally as far away from me as she can be?

It was a chance relationship is what I'm trying to say - yes, we're together, but NO neither of us planned it. We're just happy it happened.

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by having a public online profile and being single, you are open to meeting somebody off the net, which means you do online dating

just because it's not called "facebook personals" doesn't mean you aren't

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i don't even know that many people who add people they don't know personally on facebook/myspace, so that doesn't seem to make much sense either, lol..either way you're very close minded.

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do you think everybody tells you about all the people they communicate with on these sites?

do they tell you how they know all of their e-friends?

do you think they would tell you about browsing other profiles?

do you really think they will ignore messages from a good looking person of the opposite sex

you must not know that many people if everybody you know only adds people they personally know

think of me as close minded if it will help you feel better being clueless

this thread is hilarious, two people that "date" each other met through facebook, yet claim they aren't online daters

[ June 17, 2009, 12:22 AM: Message edited by: Michael P ]
 

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Posted by Michael P (Member # 1922) on :
 
you know what else is funny?

how very few guys say that they are looking for "random play" on facebook

out of all the facebook profiles i've seen, maybe about 1 - 2% say they are interested in random play

if we put 100 guys in a room do you really think only 1 or 2 would be interested in random play with an attractive girl?

just shows how people aren't honest about what they are looking for on these sites
 

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Posted by blackHxC88 (Member # 15094) on :
 

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Originally posted by Michael P:
you know what else is funny?

how very few guys say that they are looking for "random play" on facebook

out of all the facebook profiles i've seen, maybe about 1 - 2% say they are interested in random play

if we put 100 guys in a room do you really think only 1 or 2 would be interested in random play with an attractive girl?

just shows how people aren't honest about what they are looking for on these sites

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facebook let you put down "whatever i can get", that is certainly more honest
 

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Posted by Michael P (Member # 1922) on :
 
haha those are the people you should add as friends, they are honest and honesty should be the number 1 quality people look for when choosing friends
 

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Posted by Andy-Laa (Member # 31511) on :
 

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Originally posted by Michael P:
this thread is hilarious, two people that "date" each other met through facebook, yet claim they aren't online daters [/QB]

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Embellishing and twisting fact may make you THINK that your argument is stronger...it just kind of has the opposite effect and nullifies it...

I claim not to be in a relationship online?
(answer's no btw )
 

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Posted by A&F_FootDude_05 (Member # 2999) on :
 
Ever since the MySpace chat was disabled by Tom way back in February I think online dating became crippled.
 

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Posted by A&F_FootDude_05 (Member # 2999) on :
 
I'm glad the debate with Andy and Michael P appears to be a healthy one....not that I am trying to play a moderate middleman here but you both have some good points....online dating is still taboo in society....a lot of people lie on Facebook...to support Michael P. back when i lived with girls and i had a crush on one of them her profile said looking for 'friendship' and then a week later starts dating this guy and has been with him ever since [p.s. just about every girl I've seen that started dating someone had looking for 'friendship' up there prior to....to support Andy P.'s case this guy initially contacted her thru MySpace and both attend the same university together...they have been dating for close to a year and a half now...Back in the 1990s someone on the distant part of the family met someone via the net pre MySpace Facebook and eHarmony of course....it floundered and didn't last long at all...then again according to Wikipedia over 230 people meet every day on eHarmony

[ June 17, 2009, 05:01 PM: Message edited by: A&F_FootDude_05 ]
 

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Posted by Michael P (Member # 1922) on :
 

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Originally posted by Andy-Laa:

quote:

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Originally posted by Michael P:
this thread is hilarious, two people that "date" each other met through facebook, yet claim they aren't online daters

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Embellishing and twisting fact may make you THINK that your argument is stronger...it just kind of has the opposite effect and nullifies it...

I claim not to be in a relationship online?
(answer's no btw ) [/QB]

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you met her on facebook, you know her from being online

what am i embellishing and twisting?

you're a perfect example of people that can't admit one of the main reasons their facebook and myspace profiles were created was to get dates

again there is nothing wrong with online dating, but it is wrong to deny it

[ June 17, 2009, 06:23 PM: Message edited by: Michael P ]
 

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Posted by PublicName (Member # 12270) on :
 
i don't think anybody CREATES their facebook or myspace IN ORDER to get dates, WHO THE FUCK would do that, be honest with yourself. do you have either of them, michael? you must be looking for some dates if you do, but i bet(if you even have either since it's according to you, they're only used for online dating)yours is just to contact old friends like everybody else actually uses it forr maybe it just so happens that profile browsing randomly they found a few things on common and one of them wanted to say what's up, ever think of that? doesn't matter what you put your profile up for, i highly doubt the sole purpose of making a myspace/facebook is to get a date. there's dating specific websites for shit like that. on fb it's basically a bonus of some sort for people, but i don't see why it's such a big deal.

the only reason i think you sound like a complete moron is because you're so into saying the sole purpose of making the profile to get a date.
 

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Posted by PublicName (Member # 12270) on :
 

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Originally posted by Michael P:
you know what else is funny?

how very few guys say that they are looking for "random play" on facebook

out of all the facebook profiles i've seen, maybe about 1 - 2% say they are interested in random play

if we put 100 guys in a room do you really think only 1 or 2 would be interested in random play with an attractive girl?

just shows how people aren't honest about what they are looking for on these sites

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That isn't something most people want to advertise to the public straight off the bat. i don't understand why anyone WOULD do that especially on a site where they're likely to add a shit load of their friends, how many people do you think don't have like 500+ friends in their immediate area alone, along with a lot of people they knew from high school, and so on? that sure displays a lot of cool things that they didn't know about the person, doesn't it.

"Hey! I didn't know you were into "random play" too, maybe we should hang out sometime!" Who the fuck is going to say that? Nobody, you need to get out of the fucking box, maybe you should make a profile on facebook and start messaging people with things like that, see what kind of response you get. I bet, at the least, half the people you were to try to contact would think you were some kind of creep, whether you're attractive or not.

Why can't you believe that somebody wants to use something for friendship as opposed to trying to get some? or at least get into a decent relationship through a DIFFERENT WAY OF MEETING, GOD FORBID THEY DON'T MEET IN A BAR/AT A PARTY/SHOW/ETC OR THROUGH A FRIEND IN REAL LIFE FACE TO FACE.

Anyways I probably sound like a complete moron and might not make a lot of sense because I'm not even reading everything here, but from what I'm reading of about all of your posts, this is what I'm seeing from it. The cocky attitude and smartass bullshit every other line isn't really helping you out.
 

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Posted by bluetoelover (Member # 14736) on :
 
I will admit to adding randoms...there was a FB group called "I did what,no, shut the fuck up..." that kind of thread and one of the discussion thread was "How many beers would you have to have to sleep with the poster above you"

And I see "Foot profiles" all the time, just guys that create a profile to get foot action...so it counts

Mike isn't saying EVERYBODY creates a FB account to pick up, but the ones that slap up "Looking for Friendship" are full of shit, to put it simply. Andy and Athena just happened to meet over FB and it added fuel to the fire...

FB is a great method for picking up like I said, think about it, you can invite a hot girl to a party or a club your going to and then meet up and your set...countless other ways to pick up on it.
 

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Posted by Andy-Laa (Member # 31511) on :
 

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Originally posted by bluetoelover:
Mike isn't saying EVERYBODY creates a FB account to pick up,

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quote:

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Originally posted by Michael P:
if you are single and you have a public myspace or facebook account, you are an online dater

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Originally posted by Michael P:
I said SINGLE people use it for dating, you're married

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quote:

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Originally posted by Michael P:
your thoughts on this can't be taken seriously when you met your girl on facebook

it just proves the fact single people with a public profile on myspace or facebook use it for dating

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quote:

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Originally posted by Michael P:
by having a public online profile and being single, you are open to meeting somebody off the net, which means you do online dating

just because it's not called "facebook personals" doesn't mean you aren't

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Kinda seems he's saying that to me...

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Originally posted by bluetoelover:
Andy and Athena just happened to meet over FB and it added fuel to the fire...

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quote:

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Originally posted by Michael P:
this thread is hilarious, two people that "date" each other met through facebook, yet claim they aren't online daters

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Originally posted by Andy-Laa:
I claim not to be in a relationship online?
(answer's no btw )

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Originally posted by Michael P:
what am i embellishing and twisting?

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You’re saying that I have this persona of online dating – it’s what I am looking for and have always been looking for; my sole purpose for my Facebook profile was to peruse for dates. Not true. (and btw – you can’t go on people’s profiles of whom you don’t know without them adding you, so I can’t just surf through them at will and look for my next girlfriend).

It happened by chance. Before I fell in love with her, I wouldn’t have dreamed of it. I told you about how I was interested in a girl at my college when I began talking to Athena – and I used to tell Athena about this girl. Why would I do that if I was thinking “I’ll make her my online girlfriend later on”?

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Originally posted by Michael P:
you're a perfect example of people that can't admit one of the main reasons their facebook and myspace profiles were created was to get dates

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quote:

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Originally posted by Michael P:
again there is nothing wrong with online dating, but it is wrong to deny it

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Originally posted by Michael P:

you're young, some day you will realize that daddy knows best

people with public online profiles use them for dating, you of all people should know this

deal with it

they just can't admit it, case in point YOU!

hope this helps

your thoughts on this can't be taken seriously when you met your girl on facebook

just shows how people aren't honest about what they are looking for on these sites

again there is nothing wrong with online dating, but it is wrong to deny it

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Originally posted by blackHxC88:
i'm jealous of andy's relationship, wishing i had something like that

congrats

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lol - sorry I missed that man, amongst the hail of shit Mike's raining down in an attempt to sound witty. I appreciate the comment, bro
 

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Posted by Michael P (Member # 1922) on :
 

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Originally posted by PublicName:
i don't think anybody CREATES their facebook or myspace IN ORDER to get dates, WHO THE FUCK would do that, be honest with yourself. do you have either of them, michael? you must be looking for some dates if you do, but i bet(if you even have either since it's according to you, they're only used for online dating)yours is just to contact old friends like everybody else actually uses it forr maybe it just so happens that profile browsing randomly they found a few things on common and one of them wanted to say what's up, ever think of that? doesn't matter what you put your profile up for, i highly doubt the sole purpose of making a myspace/facebook is to get a date. there's dating specific websites for shit like that. on fb it's basically a bonus of some sort for people, but i don't see why it's such a big deal.

the only reason i think you sound like a complete moron is because you're so into saying the sole purpose of making the profile to get a date.

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learn to read before you speak, son

i never said the main reason was to get dates, i said all the single people with public profiles are open to using it for dating, they just won't admit it by saying "here for friendship" due to online dating still being taboo

i had a myspace but haven't logged in since last year, it was on private because i wasn't using it for dating

again i NEVER said the sole purpose of them is to get dates, again learn to read before you speak MORON
 

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Posted by Michael P (Member # 1922) on :
 

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Originally posted by Michael P:
you know what else is funny?

how very few guys say that they are looking for "random play" on facebook

out of all the facebook profiles i've seen, maybe about 1 - 2% say they are interested in random play

if we put 100 guys in a room do you really think only 1 or 2 would be interested in random play with an attractive girl?

just shows how people aren't honest about what they are looking for on these sites

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That isn't something most people want to advertise to the public straight off the bat. i don't understand why anyone WOULD do that especially on a site where they're likely to add a shit load of their friends, how many people do you think don't have like 500+ friends in their immediate area alone, along with a lot of people they knew from high school, and so on? that sure displays a lot of cool things that they didn't know about the person, doesn't it.

"Hey! I didn't know you were into "random play" too, maybe we should hang out sometime!" Who the fuck is going to say that? Nobody, you need to get out of the fucking box, maybe you should make a profile on facebook and start messaging people with things like that, see what kind of response you get. I bet, at the least, half the people you were to try to contact would think you were some kind of creep, whether you're attractive or not.

Why can't you believe that somebody wants to use something for friendship as opposed to trying to get some? or at least get into a decent relationship through a DIFFERENT WAY OF MEETING, GOD FORBID THEY DON'T MEET IN A BAR/AT A PARTY/SHOW/ETC OR THROUGH A FRIEND IN REAL LIFE FACE TO FACE.

Anyways I probably sound like a complete moron and might not make a lot of sense because I'm not even reading everything here, but from what I'm reading of about all of your posts, this is what I'm seeing from it. The cocky attitude and smartass bullshit every other line isn't really helping you out.

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Originally posted by bluetoelover:
Mike isn't saying EVERYBODY creates a FB account to pick up,

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...Yes he is o.O
Maybe you misread…
Look at EVERYTHING he's written:

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Originally posted by Michael P:
if you are single and you have a public myspace or facebook account, you are an online dater

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Originally posted by Michael P:
I said SINGLE people use it for dating, you're married

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Originally posted by Michael P:
your thoughts on this can't be taken seriously when you met your girl on facebook

it just proves the fact single people with a public profile on myspace or facebook use it for dating

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Originally posted by Michael P:
by having a public online profile and being single, you are open to meeting somebody off the net, which means you do online dating

just because it's not called "facebook personals" doesn't mean you aren't

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Kinda seems he's saying that to me...

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Originally posted by bluetoelover:
Andy and Athena just happened to meet over FB and it added fuel to the fire...

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Okay - yes, thank GOD you're not as dense as him and you realise that, although in an online relationship, it wasn't planned...the way in which Mike is implying it is he’s saying that I have always been an online dater and can’t seem to comprehend the fact that it wasn’t what either of us were particularly looking for… maybe if I put double spacing between the words and spell them phonetically, he might get it…hope springs eternal.

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nothing i said meant the main reason you created it was for dating

you seem to be awfully sensitive and insecure about the fact that you met your girl online

if you think i'm trying to bait you into getting angry, it's because you are angry

i posted in this thread before you and athens, you both came into this thread to deny the fact that people use these sites for dating, which both of you do

IT WASN'T THE MAIN REASON YOU USED THE SITE BUT BOTH OF YOU WERE OPEN TO ONLINE DATING HENCE THE ONLINE RELATIONSHIP

no facebook = you don't know each other exists

jeez get over it

[ June 18, 2009, 08:37 PM: Message edited by: Michael P ]
 

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Posted by bluetoelover (Member # 14736) on :
 
Holy fuck my head hurts reading this thread fellas! So who buys the other guy a beer first?
 

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Posted by Michael P (Member # 1922) on :
 
people mostly use myspace and facebook to keep in contact with friends

if they are single and their profile is public, they are open to online dating

is that really an offensive thing to say?
 

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Posted by National (Member # 8568) on :
 

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Originally posted by Michael P:
people mostly use myspace and facebook to keep in contact with friends

if they are single and their profile is public, they are open to online dating

is that really an offensive thing to say?

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Originally posted by National:

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Originally posted by Michael P:
people mostly use myspace and facebook to keep in contact with friends

if they are single and their profile is public, they are open to online dating

is that really an offensive thing to say?

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NOPE. Not offensive at all.

Who knew that a statement a simple as that can create a lot of anarchy and chaos? I like this thread, actually. I want to see this debate go into the fifteenth round.


--National

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Posted by nusuth (Member # 7372) on :
 
finally Michael P, you say that. to me, until you wrote that last bit, it sounded like you were saying that FB and MS profiles were created in an attempt to date people. i dont think there is that stigmata about meeting people online as there was 8 yrs ago when i met my wife. i know tons and tons of people who have met SO (significant others) and playmates online thru sites from FB to AFF. the way i see it, its akin to going out for a drink with some friends. you arent necessarily going to meet someone else, but sure.. you're open to it. ask me tho beforehand if i am going out to meet a woman, i would answer no, i'm just going out for a drink with some friends. that doesnt make me liar if i happen to meet a woman, it just means i wasnt thinking about it. so when people create a profile 'for friendship' and they happen to meet someone, they werent being deceitful, they quite possibly werent intending to meet any one.

so bottom line.. putting 'for friendship' isnt a bullshit line. its their main reason for the profile. that doesnt mean they are closed to more tho.

of course thats just my personal experience and opinion.
 

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Posted by Andy-Laa (Member # 31511) on :
 

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finally Michael P, you say that. to me, until you wrote that last bit, it sounded like you were saying that FB and MS profiles were created in an attempt to date people.

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Originally posted by Michael P
it just proves the fact single people with a public profile on myspace or facebook use it for dating

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Originally posted by Michael P
if you are single and you have a public myspace or facebook account, you are an online dater

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A spot of damage control methinks…

Pathetic.
 

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Posted by Andy-Laa (Member # 31511) on :
 
Point 1:

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Originally posted by Michael P:
nothing i said meant the main reason you created it was for dating

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Originally posted by Michael P:
if you are single and you have a public myspace or facebook account, you are an online dater

the people that claim to be "looking for friendship" are full of shit

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you seem to be awfully sensitive and insecure about the fact that you met your girl online

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I’ve told you no I didn’t. I mean…what would be the motive for lying about it either way? I’m proud of my relationship and the fact it’s so strong; my parents & friends all know about it. I have no shame in being in an online relationship.

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Originally posted by Michael P:
if you think i'm trying to bait you into getting angry, it's because you are angry

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Originally posted by Michael P:
i posted in this thread before you and athens, you both came into this thread to deny the fact that people use these sites for dating, which both of you do

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Originally posted by Michael P:
IT WASN'T THE MAIN REASON YOU USED THE SITE BUT BOTH OF YOU WERE OPEN TO ONLINE DATING HENCE THE ONLINE RELATIONSHIP

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Originally posted by Michael P:
no facebook = you don't know each other exists

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Originally posted by nusuth:
finally Michael P, you say that. to me, until you wrote that last bit, it sounded like you were saying that FB and MS profiles were created in an attempt to date people.

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(This post also applies to National too)
He was until he was caught out and he changed his story. Not once before I pointed out how...wrong his argument is (as in, he is arguing the wrong point using the incorrect terminology and thus being ridiculously ambidextrous in his opinions so as to appear...I don't know alpha male I think...), did he say "Oh no, actually, I never said that everyone (who is single) use them solely for dating” when a few posts before:

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it just proves the fact single people with a public profile on myspace or facebook use it for dating

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and in particular – this post. There is certainly no way he could say that what he was saying here isn’t exactly what you are reading: all single people with online profiles use them for dating)…

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Originally posted by Michael P
if you are single and you have a public myspace or facebook account, you are an online dater

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A spot of damage control methinks…

Pathetic.

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Point 1:

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Originally posted by Michael P:
nothing i said meant the main reason you created it was for dating

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The contradiction being:

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Originally posted by Michael P:
if you are single and you have a public myspace or facebook account, you are an online dater

the people that claim to be "looking for friendship" are full of shit

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Originally posted by Michael P:
you seem to be awfully sensitive and insecure about the fact that you met your girl online

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The contradiction being:

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I’ve told you no I didn’t. I mean…what would be the motive for lying about it either way? I’m proud of my relationship and the fact it’s so strong; my parents & friends all know about it. I have no shame in being in an online relationship.

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if you think i'm trying to bait you into getting angry, it's because you are angry

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I will say in all serious – thank you for making me laugh by putting that – I’m not trying to put you down there, it just lightened the persona of you in my opinion.

Mate – I honestly have no opinions of you either way. The one thing I would say is you are a pessimist (if you want to call it “realist” then whatever) but that doesn’t affect me in any way particularly. If you want to have a generally negative view of the world – I would not dream of changing that. Fine. It’s up to you how you live your life. Poet, Phillip Larkin was similarly misanthropic and look at his fame...the relevence of this, however is nil so don't come back at me saying I'm personally attacking you or anything - (I do doubt you would, but just in case).

As for me being “angry” at you…welcome to debating, son. I mean I’m a History student and I like to debate things; it makes it more earned if you do it the proper way. Don’t think I’m angry with you at all as that is giving you far too much credit…it takes much more than that to get me rattled. You seem to think discussing this has like…changed my life or something…I’ll make a promise to you that it hasn’t.

I’ve provided evidence of your attempt to bait (not just me – people in general) and you haven’t countered that – instead, again, you have simply tried to put me down and to undermine my argument – you’re saying my emotions have got the better of me and I’m speaking out of anger it seems…well this – I’d presume – has convinced you I wasn’t, and I’m not.

As far as I can see – the strongest argument is mine (whilst I admit I’m biased) I have showed you the contradicting statements and explained how you approach debates (arguments if you want to call them that) and have pleaded with you that, for your sake, you should learn to properly argue fluently and convincingly. I shot holes in basically everything you’ve said and you haven’t attempted to explain/counter or defend them. This tells me you can’t; and so essentially, what you’re indirectly saying there…is your argument is wrong. If you can’t defend it, how can it be a correct, truth-filled argument? It can’t be.

You further go on to dismiss it with one line essentially saying “I’m not trying to make you angry, you just are”…I mean…okay then – even if I were…this doesn’t change the evidence I have presented to you that you’ve waived off in half a sentence hoping that I’d…forget it(?).

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i posted in this thread before you and athens, you both came into this thread to deny the fact that people use these sites for dating, which both of you do

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Erm…we do? O.o
So we were looking for it all along?…okay I really hope this point sticks this time, Mike, as I’ve gone over it twice already… please TRY to see what I am saying annd – God forbid –perhaps answer the question - …are you ready?

Okay – I would like an answer to the question: “Why would I tell Athena that I was pursuing a girl at my college before we were together?”
Were I thinking that Athena was a prospective girlfriend, I can’t see any benefits FOR telling her that I was interested in this girl…it would be insane of me to do so, yes? Furthermore, this girl has expressed interest in me in the past and, to a lesser degree, now…she goes to my college, she lives within 10 miles of me, we have similar interests and do similar subjects so we can talk a fair amount.

I have a second question: “Why would I not go for the easier option of the local girl?”
I was talking to both before I was in love and there is not a sane person who would purposely chose the most inconvenient option were he not in love. Were I always open to the idea of online dating, I’d have the presence of mind to put it on hold when a girl near me is interested in me, thus I would not have ended up falling in love and not have ended up in an online relationship.

These ARE logical steps, yeah?

Basically - what I'm saying, though counter-intuitive, it is true. Were I open to online relationships in THIS SPECIFIC situation...I would have ended up NOT in one... - if you don't understand at least, the concept that I'm trying to get across, I'd like to explain it, so tell me if that's too unclear for you, please.

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Originally posted by Michael P:
IT WASN'T THE MAIN REASON YOU USED THE SITE BUT BOTH OF YOU WERE OPEN TO ONLINE DATING HENCE THE ONLINE RELATIONSHIP

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Right – I refer you up near the top of this post, where I prove that you DID say the only reason single people use FB/MS is to “e-date”.

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no facebook = you don't know each other exists

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Congratulations! The first fact you have posted in this thread.

…erm…where’s the relevance in this statement?

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blah blah blah you don't like that i point out the fact that many people use theIr myspace and facebook profiles for online dating INCLUDING YOU

and yes i am a realist, delusional people like you who use the net to have "girlfriends" you've never even shaken the hand of can't see reality, you live in a fantasy world, i live in the real world

anybody that doesn't see things your way is negative and pessimistic, anybody that agrees with you is "pwning" me
 

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Posted by Michael P (Member # 1922) on :
 
and explain to me how it would take a negative or pessimistic person to think people use myspace or facebook for online dating

i would think somebody would consider it negative thinking if they use it for dating and are somehow embarrased about that, they think it's negative to think that way because they don't want to be labeled an "online dater"

which is probably why the OP originally asked the question, he must feel that being an online dater is uncool

i look forward to hearing your "logical" explanation andy
 

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Posted by Andy-Laa (Member # 31511) on :
 

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and explain to me how it would take a negative or pessimistic person to think people use myspace or facebook for online dating

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You do understand first of all that you only enforce these points with child-like comments like the two above?
Eh - up to you.

And like I said - it is my, personal opinion that you are a negative person - you might want to read what I wrote in that paragraph before you make a bigger fool of yourself (about how I was going off-topic there, I was just stating an opinion that wasn't directly to do with the thing I was talking about).

Oh and I said that was why I thought you were pessimistic?
Don't think so...maybe I think it as I have literally never seen a post praising the feet you wank over...or that you are usually the first to say whether a girl is fat/ugly or whatever...or maybe...just throwing ideas out here, mate it's because you actually look for arguments despite not being able to actually make sense...a sharp tounge does not indicate a keen mind.

The reason in this case that it came to my mind was as you state the false "fact" that on line relationships don't work...it is false as...(guess what - more evidence)...so many yhave achieved it

Btw - LOVE the first reply
I love it when I'm proven right through the ignorance and stupidty of others

Too much for you to read, I suppose...unlucky. I hear ignorance is its own punishment.

[ June 19, 2009, 02:51 PM: Message edited by: Andy-Laa ]
 

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Posted by Michael P (Member # 1922) on :
 

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Originally posted by Michael P:
and explain to me how it would take a negative or pessimistic person to think people use myspace or facebook for online dating

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You do understand first of all that you only enforce these points with child-like comments like the two above?
Eh - up to you.

And like I said - it is my, personal opinion that you are a negative person - you might want to read what I wrote in that paragraph before you make a bigger fool of yourself (about how I was going off-topic there, I was just stating an opinion that wasn't directly to do with the thing I was talking about).

Oh and I said that was why I thought you were pessimistic?
Don't think so...maybe I think it as I have literally never seen a post praising the feet you wank over...or that you are usually the first to say whether a girl is fat/ugly or whatever...or maybe...just throwing ideas out here, mate it's because you actually look for arguments despite not being able to actually make sense...a sharp tounge does not indicate a keen mind.

The reason in this case that it came to my mind was as you state the false "fact" that on line relationships don't work...it is false as...(guess what - more evidence)...so many yhave achieved it

Btw - LOVE the first reply
I love it when I'm proven right through the ignorance and stupidty of others

Too much for you to read, I suppose...unlucky. I hear ignorance is its own punishment.

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so basically i'm "negative and pessimistic" because i don't say what you want to hear

ok...

as for not "praising the pics I wank over" LOL i have very good taste, some would say too picky but trust me it's just good taste

a negative person would be putting down their looks, which is something i have never done, if we used your logic you are negative for not giving a compliment to the poor threads that get zero response

if i'm a bad guy for saying rosie o'donnel or any chick that doesn't post here is fat and ugly, then fine i'm a bad guy

for you to have "never" seen me give a compliment means you either aren't reading my posts or you are stuck in your delusional mind of seeing things the way you want to see them, rather than seeing things for what they are

most of the girls here are faceless foot models, i need more than just feet for me to be impressed, of the girls that post here i'm a fan of malory, she shows everything and she's hot

i have posted numerous compliments for her, sorry i don't constantly drool like a guy that would call a girl he has never even touched his "girlfriend"

even though this technically is a jerkoff forum, i come here moreso for discussion

oh one more thing, one of the ways people use their mysapce and facebook is to get dates, including you, if that's offensive than i don't know how you will survive the real world, which might be why you have an online girlfriend instead of a real girlfriend

you went way off topic, the topic was online dating and you hijacked the thread just to tell me you don't like my posts

that's just your problem, don't be so negative and take the good with the bad

[ June 19, 2009, 05:07 PM: Message edited by: Michael P ]
 

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Posted by Michael P (Member # 1922) on :
 
one more thing andy, if you ask me the people that encourage your e-relationship are not postive people at all, they are negative influences

a positive person would encurage you to get out and meet one of the thousands and thousands of girls that live close by, they wouldn't encourage you to pursue a girl that lives on another continent, you are risking financial and emotional loss for a girl you haven't even shaken hands with

try talking to girls in your area and get over the infatuation of some internet chick that isn't readily available, that is all it is infatuation and the feeling of wanting what you can't easily have

the girls in your area can't be that bad, try communicating with them in person, that is healthier than e-conversations, not to mention more real

i consider that to be postitive advice, but you'll probably think of it as negative because it isn't what you want to hear
 

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Posted by PublicName (Member # 12270) on :
 
I'm mostly just frustrated at the emotes you use throughout your posts, and the way you kept wording things, making me think you thought everyone who had these profiles were meant to get dates.

Anyways on the subject of online dating, I know tons of people who have both gotten together through meeting online, some have had long, healthy relationships, others even married.

The thing is, until you actually start meeting up, it really is close to just talking to someone and exchanging words, nothing physical.
 

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