I haven't seen one in person yet
Posted by sofatater (Member # 4209) on :
When I clicked on the link I found "Sorry, no posts matched your criteria. Please try your search again."
This is what I "googled' up in the urban dictionary: juggalo/juggalette A self applied label used by a large group of people with similar interests...used to describe their individuality, while fanboying over Insane Clown Posse. (Yes. It is about ICP because ICP invented the term and ICP fans are the only ones who fucking use it.) You think Rammstein fans call themselves the "The Kiss Army"?
2. Claim to "not give a fuck what anyone thinks" but are most often seem online telling "haters" to "shut the fuck up and die".
3. Find the imagery of hatchet murders, rape, cannibalism, misogyny and necrophilia to be acceptable and enjoyable but, racism is a no-no.
4. More often than not, prejudge just as many people, if not more, than those they hate.
5. Claim that "haters" have only heard one or two songs. However, having listened to their first four albums in their entirety repeatedly, I can safely say that one song is pretty much indicative of the rest.
6. Consist of a 9-1 ratio of angry, violent, desperate for attention kids suckered by a lowest common denominator gimmick to adults with immature and violent taste who also buy into said gimmick. All believe that the title they give themselves (and subsequent ICP love)is enough to consider a complete stranger "family".
7. Ignorant to the blatant hypocrisy of using a popular label to claim individuality
I saw someone the other day in his car driving in the opposite direction of me in clown makeup. I just thought he was a professional clown on his way to or from a gig. Could it be that I actually saw a "Juggalette"???
If so, we're in trouble. I can see the headlines now... "Binky the clown robs the first national bank. Be on the lookout for a person in whiteface with a big red nose."
What are parents teaching kids today. First it was goths, then EMO's and now clowns???
Posted by A&F_FootDude_05 (Member # 2999) on :
sorry for the bad link.. a working link is now below to show you what a Juggalette is.
Juggalette Posted by A&F_FootDude_05 (Member # 2999) on :
I wanna her National's take on this.
Posted by blackHxC88 (Member # 15094) on :
quote:Originally posted by sofatater: What are parents teaching kids today. First it was goths, then EMO's and now clowns???
it was goth, juggalo, THEN emos. unlike goth and emo, people who call themself "juggalo's" are a lot more serious about it. have you ever met a 35 year old "goth or "emo"??? no. a 35 year old "juggalo"??? i have!
considering where both me and A&F live, they are popular as fuck. what's the one sure fire way to make an "emo" kid laugh??? have an "juggalo" call him a loser Posted by diamond johny (Member # 27586) on :
I'm in So Cal & have yet to encounter these ICP people. Maybe an E. coast thing? The Emo kids around here get picked on a lot even with their huge numbers by the Cholos & Punks so I'd imagine this bunch wouldn't last long.
Posted by Maverick Matrix (Member # 2989) on :
quote:Originally posted by blackHxC88:
quote:Originally posted by sofatater: What are parents teaching kids today. First it was goths, then EMO's and now clowns???
it was goth, juggalo, THEN emos. unlike goth and emo, people who call themself "juggalo's" are a lot more serious about it. have you ever met a 35 year old "goth or "emo"??? no. a 35 year old "juggalo"??? i have!
considering where both me and A&F live, they are popular as fuck. what's the one sure fire way to make an "emo" kid laugh??? have an "juggalo" call him a loser
If you live in the Midwest, ICP is pretty big but I can't stand that shit. Their fans are totally psycho. The fact that there's a following of people who actually take that shit seriously is beyond me. If you haven't encountered it it SoCal, consider yourself lucky. There's an ICP recording studio about 25 minutes from my house. Annoying.
Posted by feetluvr (Member # 1570) on :
Easy to pick out of a crowd aren't they? I've not seen anyone like this even in Tampa or Orlando. Do they only come out at night or do they dress this way all the time?
Posted by National (Member # 8568) on :
quote:Originally posted by A&F_FootDude_05: I wanna her National's take on this.
You wanted to hear my take on this? Out of curiosity, why me?
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But to answer on this topic, I don't get what's going on here with grown people clowning around as clowns? I see that it has to do with the Insane Clown Posse and all that it's worth.
Just when I thought Eminem took care of these punks for good, they still exist. No one should give a damn about them. I'm sick of the ICP and their stupid music. They can pretend that Eminem doesn't exist, but the fact is he shredded them to pieces. The ICP is forever insignificant.
--National
Posted by A&F_FootDude_05 (Member # 2999) on :
quote:Originally posted by National:
quote:Originally posted by A&F_FootDude_05: I wanna her National's take on this.
You wanted to hear my take on this? Out of curiosity, why me?
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But to answer on this topic, I don't get what's going on here with grown people clowning around as clowns? I see that it has to do with the Insane Clown Posse and all that it's worth.
Just when I thought Eminem took care of these punks for good, they still exist. No one should give a damn about them. I'm sick of the ICP and their stupid music. They can pretend that Eminem doesn't exist, but the fact is he shredded them to pieces. The ICP is forever insignificant.
Simply because you seem to have an authoritative view on a lot of stuff...such as gender and sports - definitely sports - and you're always backing up your stuff with sources..i thought possibly you had some sort of insight on this, and yup I am sure it stems from ICP like a few others are saying..you'll come across people on MySpace with pics of themselves as Juggalettes/os.
Posted by blackHxC88 (Member # 15094) on :
quote:Originally posted by Maverick Matrix: There's an ICP recording studio about 25 minutes from my house.
i would kill myself if i were that close to one
Posted by blackHxC88 (Member # 15094) on :
quote:Originally posted by feetluvr: Easy to pick out of a crowd aren't they? I've not seen anyone like this even in Tampa or Orlando. Do they only come out at night or do they dress this way all the time?
it's become a midwest thing. when i lived in south bend, a couple bridges in town were tagged with the hatchet man logo or "ICP" in big black bold letters. wherever there are 14-15 year old white trash kids in the midwest, more than likely they listen to ICP.
Posted by blackHxC88 (Member # 15094) on :
quote:Originally posted by diamond johny: I'm in So Cal & have yet to encounter these ICP people. Maybe an E. coast thing? The Emo kids around here get picked on a lot even with their huge numbers by the Cholos & Punks so I'd imagine this bunch wouldn't last long.
>My face when Cholos
Posted by National (Member # 8568) on :
quote:Originally posted by A&F_FootDude_05: Simply because you seem to have an authoritative view on a lot of stuff...such as gender and sports - definitely sports - and you're always backing up your stuff with sources..i thought possibly you had some sort of insight on this, and yup I am sure it stems from ICP like a few others are saying..you'll come across people on MySpace with pics of themselves as Juggalettes/os.
Hmm, interesting. Thanks.
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Onto the issue at hand:
I had to throw up after reading the part you said about finding MySpace pages of people calling or posing themselves as Juggalettes.
You'll find comments in the YouTube links I provided from people defending themselves against Eminem, trying to bash HIM. Are these people kidding me? It wasn't until I read those comments did I realize that this clown movement was serious. And I wound up losing some brain cells after having read those comments in where they (of all people) bashed The One and Only, Eminem. Now, you may not like Eminem, but how can anyone think that the ICP is better than him?
The most telling thing is that this following will never go away. I don't think it's a fad. It's been almost ten years since Eminem buried them, and to find that these people are supporting them is simply nauseating.
By the way A&F, what did you think of the YouTube links? I thought they were classic and hilarious. And of course, true. The last one was especially funny.
--National
Posted by Hal (Member # 3484) on :
quote: have you ever met a 35 year old "goth or "emo"??? no.
I´ve seen quite a few older goths. They usually don`t look as excentric as their younger counterparts but they surely exist.
-Hal-
Posted by Patrick (Member # 1169) on :
ICP? I thought they were a 5 minutes of fame band in the late 90s. Wow, they're still around...
Patrick
Posted by Andy-Laa (Member # 31511) on :
Okay...so this is absolutely the first time I've ever heard of any of this...what I'm understanding is that There is a group of people called the "Insane Clown Posse" which, much like Goth...ism, is a movement of people with one particular view on life (I don't know what view) and who...Eminem randomly decides to hate (I found it amusing that he randomly - as far as I can see - just hates them haha). And maybe they make music...?
Am I right in what I've said?
Posted by Patrick (Member # 1169) on :
Andy,
They're both from Detroit and apparently have issues with each other. Probably someone else who slept with his then girlfriend, now off and on wife????
Patrick
Posted by National (Member # 8568) on :
This rivalry started around 1995, a stage before Eminem was signed and trying to build a reputation for himself. While ICP were performing in Detroit, Eminem had set up a stall which held many fliers he was handing out for a party he was to host and planned to perform in. Among a list of Rap groups/artists to appear, the flier stated "ICP Might Appear .. Maybe." This annoyed Violent J, a member of the Posse, who came across the flier and told Eminem to "fuck off", clearly not wanting Marshall (Eminem) to use their name to get known.
This left a negative vibe between Eminem and ICP, with the situation only getting worse when Eminem insisted the group never turned up at his party after D12 (which stands for Dirty Dozen, a rap group which is lead by Eminem) had chased them out of a night club and shot at their van with paintball guns. This DID happen but was but denied by the Insane Clown Posse on a track that was made a while later on a Howard Stern interview entitled "Nothing but a Bitch Thang", which states that the "only club ever chased anybody out of was a gay bar."
Eminem had previously verbally attacked them with a few insults thrown on various tracks such as 'Get You Mad' and 'Drastic Measures' in which Eminem claimed the group was over-rated. A humorous event at the 'Up In Smoke Tour' had Eminem come out on stage with a clown-faced, rather large mouthed inflated doll which orally pleasured him showing there was no hard feelings.
During this time Eminem had made an appearance on the Howard Stern radio show and answered 'Who?' when asked his thoughts on the Insane Clown Posse. An obvious diss suggesting ICP are unknown, which relatively was true. He also remembers them as dudes who got their asses beat "all the time, back in the day."
To be given an opportunity to respond, ICP were invited to the show the very next day and obviously angered by the insult they stated "We don't even know that bitch" when referring to Eminem. They then released the track 'Nothing but a Bitch Thang" as said earlier, and another with a group ICP has signed by the name of Twiztid and collectively called it "Slim Anus." A parody of "My Name Is", which appeared on the Slim Shady LP (Eminem's first album).
Eminem took things up a level by including a skit on his second release, The Marshall Mathers LP which enacted Violent J and Shaggy 2 Dope, two members of ICP, performing oral sex on Ken Kannif and confidently saying 'Eminem' when Ken asked them to say his name. This came after the track 'Marshall Mathers' which assaulted ICP lyrically which such raw emotions.
Here Eminem cleared the situation by mentioning the paintball gun incident and pressed the rival crew were faggots when referring to the track 'Slim Anus'. Explaining rather bluntly that damn right his anus was slim, as unlike that of ICP it had not been penetrated. A touch of class may, I add.
In the same track Em claims the group calls themselves 'Clowns cause they look queer' and even going as far as threatening them physically with the line 'Cause I don't wrestle, I'll knock you fucking faggots the fuck out'. Although stating he found the ICP disses funny and doesn't take them seriously cause he don't consider them artists it's clear he was not playing here.
A few months later, perhaps without considering the consequences, Eminem ran up on an ICP associate with an unloaded gun and pistol whipped the guy known who was kissing Kim, the wife of Marshall. A skit 'The Kiss' on the Eminem Show (his third album), is as close to a reconstruction as we'll get of how the incident went down with an atmospheric military drum roll thrown in for good measure.
The track Business, also on the Eminem Show, contains what some believe to be subliminal disses as the chorus goes 'must be a circus in town, let's shut the shit down on these clowns'. This can be referring to ICP, a theory which has added back up with the carnival theme being coincidentally familiar to those who own the 'Dark Carnival' album by the Insane Posse.
The next album from ICP 'Bizaar' also has a diss track aimed at Eminem called 'Please don't hate me'. A tongue in check track, giving Marshall a taste of his own medicine in a sense with different scenarios played out between his mother Debbie and ICP.
With no response from Eminem's forth album 'Encore' and no word on the beef since then, it's safe to say the beef has pretty much died down.
Although those who follow Eminem know of the line in the song 'Monkey See Monkey Do' which goes 'When I come back I'll be shooting more then just paintballs, trust me'. Although not a diss in itself, it does still show Eminem is insisted as ever of the previous shooting incident, although it didn't spur any reaction from ICP.
Posted by Hal (Member # 3484) on :
Juggalos/Juggallettes are a bunch of Fetal Alcohol Syndrome white kids who hang out at the mall too much acting tough.
They can be heard listening to the lowest form of "music".
Be wary, they are often obese and violent.
Kill on sight.
Posted by blackHxC88 (Member # 15094) on :
quote:Originally posted by Diabolicus: Juggalos/Juggallettes are a bunch of Fetal Alcohol Syndrome white kids who hang out at the mall too much acting tough.
They can be heard listening to the lowest form of "music".
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i would kill myself if i were that close to one
