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There was a huge buzz on twitter about the legalities of filming porn. And it turns out California is the only state in which you can legally film pornographic films.

How does this relate to us? Well, a lot of us here like a good foot-job clip right? Well, even if you have 2 consenting adults to perform this foot-job clip & publish it online it can be considered illegal. The story below strictly deals with hardcore porn BUT as many call our content "foot-porn", producers should be weary of your local laws/jurisdiction legalities (especially when dealing with foot-job clips)

How is it illegal for 2 consenting adults to film in the privacy of their own home? Makes you think. Are we really as free as we think we are?

Check out the story below. Share your thoughts & opinions.

http://www.theledger.com/article/20110604/NEWS/110609710/1410?Title=Lake-Wales-Couple-Made-and-Sold-Porn-at-Home-Arrest-Report-Says-

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Holy shit, I've definitely filmed myself worshipping feet and getting footjobs from consenting adult ladies, in FL not far from where they are located in that link you posted (actually the next county over). The difference is I've never posted any of it online, and keep it for myself, but that is scary... why the fuck couldn't I post it online if I wanted to? I always thought of FL as the giant cock dangling below the bible belt; I didn't think we were subject to biblical law as well (if that's what it is).
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quote:
Originally posted by FLfootguy:
Holy shit, I've definitely filmed myself worshipping feet and getting footjobs from consenting adult ladies, in FL not far from where they are located in that link you posted (actually the next county over). The difference is I've never posted any of it online, and keep it for myself, but that is scary... why the fuck couldn't I post it online if I wanted to? I always thought of FL as the giant cock dangling below the bible belt; I didn't think we were subject to biblical law as well (if that's what it is).

I've heard from other "Floridians" that Polk county is full of "bible thumpers" who censor anything that is sexual or anything that can be construed as a sexual act. You've got to be careful because we all know if the government or in this story's case the sheriff's office wants to FRY you under law, they could.

But just like you Florida Foot-Guy, I don't see the "crime" here. These are adults agreeing to participate in these acts, where's the harm done in that? Why are they using our tax dollars to prosecute these people? They're GROWN ADULTS!

I just want to give a heads up to all my fellow foot fetish producers/directors & potential producers/directors, be careful what & where you're filming your content or make sure you have a competent lawyer to cover your ass if the law's iron-fist decides to come down on your head

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...Basically, check your local laws! Oh yes, and don't shoot shit in Polk County!

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quote:
Originally posted by FLfootguy:
Holy shit, I've definitely filmed myself worshipping feet and getting footjobs from consenting adult ladies, in FL not far from where they are located in that link you posted (actually the next county over). The difference is I've never posted any of it online, and keep it for myself, but that is scary... why the fuck couldn't I post it online if I wanted to? I always thought of FL as the giant cock dangling below the bible belt; I didn't think we were subject to biblical law as well (if that's what it is).

...and why can't I smoke weed in Fla without running the risk of being thrown in jail?!? Imho, Fla laws are dumb. People are awesome though!

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The nice thing about full-time law makers is that they make new laws full time, so they can be proud of the Utopia they are creating. Consult your lawyer before you smile at a beautiful angel on the sidewalk.
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quote:
Originally posted by markn:
The nice thing about full-time law makers is that they make new laws full time, so they can be proud of the Utopia they are creating. Consult your lawyer before you smile at a beautiful angel on the sidewalk.

Yeah, that's the scary part - there are full-time lawyers making new laws full time! There are some who want to create that "Utopia" where they know better than everyone else and lead people around like herds, cutting off the decision-making process of people so that they only have a couple of options and the one option that is "attractive" is the option that they want you to take in the first place.... *Sniff, sniff*... Smell that?... It's social engineering! It has been going on in the U.S. for a little over 100 years now and it continues to snowball out of control.

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Ahhhh BFO, you've got me hankering for some weed now (haven't touched in about 3-4 years). Never did it hardcore, just socially, but I just kinda stopped because England had a hard-on for legislating against smokers, so I thought better safe than sorry.

Plus, obviously Aus wouldn't exactly let me in the country with a drugs conviction.

//digression.

Porn good; the Bible bad.

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a deputy spent three months investigating porn videos the couple made at home
Hahahahahaha. "Investigating".

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An investigator paid the initial $19.95 membership fee to her website
hahahahaha "Investigator".

Edit 2: Now state law gets all fucked up with federal law, doesn't it? Surely if she had a decent enough lawyer, she could get off in the same way state law of Cali says you can grow that special plant, but federal law says you can't?

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quote:
Originally posted by Andy-Laa:
Porn good; the Bible bad.

The Bible isn't bad. Just the people who take it more seriously than they should.

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It can't be good, then, if it inspires stuff like this. And worse.
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Too much of anything good can be bad & it shows in this case. The principle behind it means well but it's just overstepping boundaries here. Authority should NOT tell adults how to conduct their personal lives (behind closed doors) especially since the act in this story only effects the participants & those interested. It's not like they were selling porn to minors.

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Personally I think it's ones duty to be aware of stupid laws... and then disregard them, while taking proper precautions to ensure you don't get caught. But maybe that's just me [Big Grin]
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quote:
Originally posted by combine_hunter:
It can't be good, then, if it inspires stuff like this. And worse.

...is exactly my point [Joint]

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@OP. If you read the article carefully and not just skim down to the clips4sale.com line, you'll see.

"wholesale promotion of obscene material and distribution of obscene material"

Key word, OBSCENE MATERIAL.

Obscenity is defined by local law, and as local as they'd like to get as per past supreme court decisions on obscenity. It is a 1st amendment challenge to the U.S. Constitution.

This case, if the couple really cares to, can add another notch in all the 1st amendment decisions to date.

No one cares if they are consenting, adult or etc. They were charged with WHOLESALE DISTRIBUTION, no one even cared if they did it for money or free of charge, of what the Locale deems to be OBSCENE.

California just happens to have some extra state laws or lack thereof to exclude these types of challenges between obscenity and 1st amendment, but it does not stop another state's enforcement agencies from charging someone who lives in California who ships DVDs for example to Alabama.

It's just getting tougher for them to nail down the physical markets, so they try to go after people for "distributing" in towns where they live.

This will continue for some time, I hope someone with deep pockets like kink.com would help the poor couple to a proper lawyer and take it all the way to 9th circuit.

Basically OBSCENITY is indeed ILLEGAL. But determining what is obscene or not is purely a local law matter, if they've overstepped their boundaries and their definition of OBSCENE as per their code at the time of the offense nothing will come of it.

Since obscenity is undefined by USC, basically 9th circuit decisions set precedent and you'll find words like "contemporary community standards" or of "not a modicum of social value" etc... California is not afforded any special privilege under this.

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yea bible spots have issues with this. it depends on where you are from and what counts as OBSCENE MATERIAL in which county or state. i mean James Joyces Ulysses was once considered obscene and banned in the usa. but if im not mistaken u can PUBLISH YOUR MATERIAL IF YOU ARE NOT FOR PROFIT. meaning if i put up a video of my girlfreind giving me a footjob (haha u wish, thats for out private collection) on a streaming sight its ok. though i wonder what legal troubles there now are for footfetishtube considering it is taking all the profit (hope there in cali or over seas)

and then theres the idea that if i create a video or porno and have it distributed from elsewhere theres no issue. i think its thte fact that they had their own site and were at home and distributing from a prude county as opposed to someone purchasing rights to the film and distributing themselve in cali or overseas

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