Plus, even if Obama was a Muslim, who cares? A President's religion (or lack thereof) has no effect on the job that s/he has been appointed to do. But I guess these are the same people who think that Muslims and terrorists are interchangeable.
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Considering how ironic it was that Obama's middle name is Hussein, and he is a Muslim {despite admitting "Christian" faith you can't be both}and was elected 7 years after 9/11 is a little ironic but whatever. We should be going after the real conspirators who caused 9/11 and stop burying our heads in the sand like a bunch of sheep, there's too much evidence it was a planned event somehow not to see it.To figure out who,how,and why would bring more honor to the victims at this point then worrying about a lame duck. 1 more year!
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Romney is a Mormon, and Bachman and Cain have professed Christian beliefs. Mr. Perry may have as well.
If one of these gets the nomination would their religion matter since their political affiliation happens to be Republican?
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All the 9/11 terrorists were Muslim ya know. Bin Laden was as well.
No, not all Muslims are terrorists but on a percentage basis I figure there are more terrorists affiliated with the Muslim/Islam faith than with the Hindu, Christian, Atheist etc. combined.
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Maybe what I should have said was "A President's religion (or lack thereof) should not have an effect on the job that s/he has been appointed to do." But either way, I stand by what I said. It's pretty absurd that people care so much about Obama's religion, especially that he's a "un-American, Kenyan-born, White-hating Muslim" that many in the Right perceive him as.
And as for the Muslim sympathizer thing... Well, with as much unnecessary shit that Muslims have been getting since 9/11, SOMEONE has to show that someone cares that they are not all in cahoots with each other.
It's like of someone looked at the Westboro Baptist Church or the abortion clinic bombers and assumed that all Christians were like that, when any intelligent person would know that they are not.
quote:Originally posted by Spruce314: All the 9/11 terrorists were Muslim ya know. Bin Laden was as well.
Yes, everyone knows this. What exactly are you trying to prove?
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Honestly I could care less myself whether Obama is a Muslim, Christian, secular humanist etc. I have nothing against Muslims, Hindus, Catholics, Mormons etc.
As to Obama's past we really have no idea which sends up lots of red flags. He FINALLY produced an apparently real birth certificate. He attended a church for 20 years with an Anti-American preacher. He has a team of lawyers keeping many of his records sealed. If he has nothing to hide why is he doing that?
Here in the US Muslims, and most everyone else enjoys way more freedom than any other country. Not sure what else we should do??
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Sorry to break the news to you, but that Long-Form Birth Certificate that the administration presented on April 27, 2011 has been PROVEN to be a digital assembly, i.e. Fraud, by numerous document experts, even one who has worked for Adobe for many, many years.
The mainstream media is ignoring the blatant issues that are wrong with that "document", which ought to be a red-flag to all Americans, regardless of Party Affiliation.
If you really accept that the Birth Certificate is legitimate, then you obviously have not looked at this issue with an objective eye. WorldNet Daily has been the leading voice in the media with numerous articles pointing out all the evidence that the Birth Certificate is an authentic fake.
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Notice I used the word "apparently" real. lol.
We're off topic here but I received an e-mail the other day that brought up a good point. There are no real stories of what Obama was like in college, no ex-girlfriends, grades. We have the pics of him as a kid with his white grandparents but really nothing after that until his run for Senate. How he paid for college, supposed trips to Pakistan are all questions? If any of us were running it would immediately be in the news that we have a foot fetish. In my case that my grades in college were mediocre, jobs I have had etc. Would be curious as to everyone's take on this.
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Sorry to break the news to you, but that Long-Form Birth Certificate that the administration presented on April 27, 2011 has been PROVEN to be a digital assembly, i.e. Fraud, by numerous document experts, even one who has worked for Adobe for many, many years.
The mainstream media is ignoring the blatant issues that are wrong with that "document", which ought to be a red-flag to all Americans, regardless of Party Affiliation.
If you really accept that the Birth Certificate is legitimate, then you obviously have not looked at this issue with an objective eye. WorldNet Daily has been the leading voice in the media with numerous articles pointing out all the evidence that the Birth Certificate is an authentic fake.
1) Why would the Government not ask for proof that he was American?
2) Why would they allow him to run if he were not/he couldn't provide the necessary proof.
3) They're the Government...they invented legal documents and if they wanted to fabricate one, I'm sure it would be flawless, whereas one made by some nurse at 7:30 in the morning may have a few human errors on it.
4) Why would they, as Americans, lie for him?
I think sometimes the practical gets overlooked for the fantastical and the conspiracies because they're more interesting than the truth.
quote:Spruce: We're off topic here but I received an e-mail the other day that brought up a good point. There are no real stories of what Obama was like in college, no ex-girlfriends, grades. We have the pics of him as a kid with his white grandparents but really nothing after that until his run for Senate. How he paid for college, supposed trips to Pakistan are all questions? If any of us were running it would immediately be in the news that we have a foot fetish. In my case that my grades in college were mediocre, jobs I have had etc. Would be curious as to everyone's take on this.
America voted him in without him being on the political scene until like 6 months before the election...ignorant public?
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Don't mean to burst you people's bubble...but if Obama isn't "REAL"...then my guess is that you must know who created him. And why would they create him to be black...he's not a robot. And he shows his flaws everyday like any other human. Bush was so dumb, I couldn't believe he was human. He was the dumbest, most gullible, stubborn president I've ever seen. And you guys voted him into office(acutally he lost the popular vote and STILL won one time, didn't he?). If its unbelievable to you, I'm just saying it was just as unbelievable to me when you voted someone as dumb as Bush in office.
Obama has his flaws, but to say he's not real...without any evidence to support your claim...is kinda sad. I'd like to put your lives under the microscope you want his to be under. Name a president who had to go through this scrutiny. You just don't make up black people ok? It would've been ok if he were white, right? If he was white his whole life story would be alot more believable right? Because I don't see anyone inquiring about McCain's time as a POW...? If you find any flaws with Obama its only because he's obviously head and shoulders above any competition. And I didn't even vote for him. I disagree with a few of his policies. But I don't think he's an alien or some hatched up scheme to ruin the world...thank God we got rid of Bush! Lol...as if Jesse Jackson didn't try to run for president...you saw what America did to him...I guess he was a little TOO REAL lol...you guys kill me...
If you're a paranoidtrutherbirtherconspiracytheorist/closetracist and you know it clap your hands, *clap**clap*
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Actually being black (really mixed) helped Obama. He could play the race card (which it appears you are) as needed. Also since he is "black" he seemingly wasn't open to the attacks that someone of Caucasian race would be. Just look at the current candidates. They're evil Republicans though.
Before you call me racist; If Herman Cain wins the nomination he gets my vote. Not because he is black, but because he is qualified for the job. Something Barry definitely is not. Also, on the subject of Cain; Where are Jessee and Al? All these racist white women accusing a black man of sexual harassment?? Who among us couldn't be accused of that for simply hitting on a woman?
John McCain did undergo scrutiny for being born outside the US albeit on a military base.
Why the delay in producing a birth certificate? Why are his school records sealed and a team of lawyers keeping them that way?
I have to agree with Andy that perhaps lots of us have become conspiracy theorists for suggesting that someone could get elected without producing adequate proof of Constitutionally being born here.
Obviously whether or not Bush was a bad president is a matter of opinion. Wait! I keep forgetting, all the worlds problems today are really Bush's fault!! LOL
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The President's real religion is Obama-ism. Why does religion and chosen government matter at all? Check out the foot lovers scene in Iran for instance.
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