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Andy-Laa
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I'm partial to the belief man has never landed on the moon.

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Me too...also, no magic bullet that killed JFK it came from the front...and of course 9-11.

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The footage was shot backwards to make it seem like it was from the back, wasn't it?

And I've never looked into 9-11. My dad says the evidence points towards the Government, but I've never bothered to research it.

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i believe in pretty much all of them. And the sheep that are the vast majority of the U.S. will continue to take it up the ass till there is no liberty anymore.

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JFK, 9/11, Bilderberger/CFR/Trilateral Commission. And I'll give credence to just about anything else people can come up with.

I remember reading something about the dark side of the moon. So I have doubts there. But as to the landing itself, I think that was on the level. Unless someone has proof otherwise, of course.

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The JFK footage, I am not sure if it was shot backwards or forwards..but the gun/bullet blew Kennedy's head apart was from the front, remember "Back and to the Left". Go watch "Loose Change" among others regarding 9-11, some are extreme and some are more moderate but there's no denying it was some type of inside job or planned event.

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Yeah I've got it, it's just getting around to watching it...

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quote:
Originally posted by combine_hunter:
I remember reading something about the dark side of the moon. So I have doubts there. But as to the landing itself, I think that was on the level. Unless someone has proof otherwise, of course.

Haha

There's lots of stuff that really doesn't ring true - far too much to all be a coincidence as far as I'm concerned.

I'll go through it as best I can if you want?

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LOL here's one for starters

Faked Moon Landing [Laugh] [Roll Eyes]

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Yeah, that doesn't look fake at all. [Laugh]
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For a joke that actually sums it up quite well haha

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[Laugh]

wait.. you guys are serious!? the moon landing was faked?!?! i'd love to hear some of the theories on how it was faked. to me, this ranks up there with the faked holocaust of WWII and the 'earth is really flat' conspiracy

9-11.. seriously?? i have watched loose change and seen ALOT of of the 'evidence' and its pretty lame. the evidence is so unsubstantiated. its alot of 'well it doesnt seem right' reasoning.

the only one i have a question about is JFK only because of the single bullet theory seems really implausible. some of the theories about it tho are pretty far fetched such as the oswald doppelganger.

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Explain building 7 falling into it's own footprint after the firefighters saying "let's pull it" only a few hours after it had some damage done to the side of it and some small fires inside? Or the world trade center dust examined by leading scientist/biochemists who found thermite particles in it? Or the firefighters who heard explosions in #2 in the basement before the plane hit it lol!! come on...there's WAY too much evidence otherwise. I couldn't even make it fit in one post.

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It's not *how* it was faked that is the issue - it's how the evidence points towards it being faked. Just my humble opinion of course.

Okay if you start with the main motives America had to fake it just in list form:

  • To win the Space Race that the old Cold War buddies, Russia had been leading from the start.

  • To display (lie about) America's technical expertise in a safe without the possibility of a botched moon landing or re-entry.

  • To take people's minds off of Vietnam.

  • To make-believe that the estimated $30 billion dollars that went into the fund was not wasted - some say it could have been used to pay everyone off...I'd kind of lean more towards all but an incredibly small number of people actually knew it was never going to take off. Everyone else just built to spec.

  • A faking guarantees success. If they crashed and burned...it was on live television for the world to see. Big humiliation.

  • Kennedy made some bullshit promise about doing it before the turn of the decade in '61 for some reason...the pressure was on and a failed take-off/landing would have lowered popular opinion of him.

So that's just motives which aren't very substantial in and of themselves.

Then you get to the number of inconsistencies that I truly believe are far too many to all be grouped under "coincidence".

There's things such as

  • Multiple light sources (such as those seen on a ghetto 60's sound stage) which cast the shadows in numerously different directions.



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  • The good quality of lighting despite the lack of stars (shouldn't there be stars visible on the moon? And if there's some scientific explanation as to why you couldn't see them despite no atmospheric conditions such as clouds, why is the quality of lighting so good?)

  • There's a picture where the + thing (I forget the name) is obscured by a rock and an astronaut's arm in two separate photos (clearly pointing towards photo editing).



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  • The flag waving as the guy puts it in...there's no atmosphere and therefore no wind on the moon.



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  • The fact that if you double the speed of the astronauts jumping about and driving around on their buggy, it looks as it would on earth - some retard jumping around in a heavy suit.

  • The absence of shadows in some pictures, despite knowing the location of the sun in reference to the picture. Again pointing towards photo editing.



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  • The famous stage-prop mark on one of the rocks "C" - meaning...something to do with stages...I can't remember what.
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  • Identical backgrounds on practically opposite sides of the moon.

  • The fact that when they left the moon, no crater is made from the blast off and it really looks like it's being pulled as opposed to propelled.

  • The maker of the cameras himself said that there's no way they could get the quality that they did by having it mounted to their space suits. Also...an interesting one: the cameras filmed in colour, yet all moving footage of them in space is obviously in black and white.

  • The plans for the shuttle were soon destroyed and the shuttle itself likewise. That would be one of the biggest cash-cows in the world. Why would you scrap something so iconic unless there's something to hide such as...it would never have been able to get to the moon safely?

  • There were people that during the original live broadcast swear that they saw a coke bottle being thrown across the screen - odd in and of itself. But in the repeat broadcast, that had been removed from the film. Now I understand that I am somewhat using the absence of evidence *as* evidence here, but it was either 10s or 100s of people that saw it originally from different points across America.

  • Why haven't we ever gone back?

There's also a shitload of scientific stuff that I don't know about to do with the surface of the moon and safety of their suits Vs. the Van Allen Radiation belt and all sorts of shit I don't understand.

But I mean this is just from memory mostly when I did a presentation about it in Science class when I was about 12. There's loads more and plenty of documentaries out there talking about all of the above and more (including mysterious deaths and fires and all sorts amongst the people within the inner-circle of the decisions for going to the moon.

I'd love to believe we as a species managed it - my favourite part of a holiday to Florida when I was young was driving down to the Kennedy Space Centre for a day - but I just can't get past the turd-pile of evidence suggesting hoax :/

[ December 15, 2010, 01:42 PM: Message edited by: Andy-Laa ]

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Sorry, I've just looked into it - it was NOT the American public that saw the coke bottle thrown across the scene - it was Australia who got a different broadcast.

Mentioned (along with everything I could say that is *wrong* with the moon landing.

http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicapollo.html

...fuck that web address looks retarded, but nonetheless, the evidence is plentiful and backed up.

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