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FootLongSub Zero
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During a conversation, I was asked which team would I join, Team Captain America or Team Ironman?.. which I thought was a really good question. After a minute of thinking my answer was Ironman. Starks is a volatile individual but Rodgers seemed little more careless. I wanna watch the movie again and re-answer the question whether I solidify my initial answer or change it. So.....

What team would you join? Team Captain America or Team Ironman.

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I've seen the film twice.

For me personally? Team Cap. And not just simply because I like the character. Even though both sides made a legitimate case as to why they were "right", I came out feeling that Cap's team members had more loyalty to one another. With Iron Man, the only one you had that was loyal to him and the intent of The Accords was War Machine. Black Panther was there just to get revenge on Bucky, Spider-Man was just trying to impress Stark in his debut, Black Widow was just going with the trend and attempting to stay on the right side of the law even though her heart was on Rogers' side, and Vision was just doing whatever Stark said.

The first act of the film, I really couldn't wait to see Tony get his beat down at the end. It angered me so much that he wanted to keep the Avengers in check because of his own guilty conscience over what happened in Sokovia as a result of his own arrogance and paranoia in creating Ultron. Now, here he was on his high horse, acting like he was the "good" guy, calling government oversight "safety". The same guy that said regarding Ultron in Age of Ultron, "You don't get why we need this," thinking Ultron was the ticket to a "safer" society and for the "greater good". Yeah? How'd that turn out? Now because you screwed up, you're holding everyone accountable for your own mistakes and attempting to shift the blame, and claiming that we're "reckless" when we were really cleaning up your mess. I got the sense that deep down, he knew that the real person who needed to be kept in check was himself, not the Avengers. He's the one that needed a set of rules and laws to follow otherwise he would let his ego run rampant. I agreed with Steve Rogers when he said that you try to save as many people as you can. Sometimes, that doesn't mean everybody. But you don't give up. If next time something happens and you don't act, perhaps that's that time that nobody gets saved. And by attempting to shift the blame to someone else and not taking responsibility for your actions, that would essentially be giving up.

As the film progressed, you started questioning whether Captain America was "right" in trying to protect Bucky. He (TWS) was indeed a criminal, so should he in fact be taken in and held accountable for these crimes? However, it still made you think because we all know that even though Bucky is TWS, TWS isn't "Bucky".

Finally in the end, I really did feel for Tony. I could understand his indignation. However, I still think he was failing to see the bigger picture. Who was really ultimately responsible for his parents' death? Bucky, or Hydra? Personally, I feel it's the latter. Just because someone directly did something, to me it doesn't always necessarily mean that the direct source is the one who is ultimately responsible and was calling the shots.

The one who I came out feeling sorry for the most? Captain America. I really felt like he was put in between a rock and a hard place in this film. Both Bucky and Tony are his friends, and I really felt like he was trying to do what he thought was right to protect both of his friends. Unfortunately, one of his friends despises his other friend. Whether you agreed with his side or not, I felt that he was really the only person you knew you could trust in this film and know that he wouldn't double cross you. I didn't trust the Secretary of State and I didn't even trust Tony.

At the end, I don't feel Captain America nor Iron Man won. When Tony was chastising Cap to leave his shield because he didn't deserve it and that his father made that shield, I felt that both Captain America and Iron Man should have been ashamed of themselves and didn't deserve either of their mantles, simply because they allowed themselves to be played by a larger force. However, I felt Captain America saw the bigger picture clearer than what Tony did even though I can completely understand Tony's anger at the moment. I felt he was essentially just seeing red at the end, pure emotion, no logic, no rational thinking. Many of his decisions in this film I felt were based off of knee jerk reactions.

The message that I gleaned from this film was that despite two parties' differing ideas and beliefs, perhaps you're all merely puppets and having your strings pulled by a bigger entity that has their own agenda and is getting you to act, behave and believe in the way that they want you to. Like Zemo said, if you can't topple an empire by force, then you topple them from within by having them turn against each other.

[ May 10, 2016, 04:40 PM: Message edited by: BareSoles84 ]

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