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Originally posted by Sinnister:
I'm getting sick of these perverts ruining things for us normal people.

When was the last time a guy with a camera went into a lab and asked the radiologist if he can take pics of womans ta-ta's after their mamagrams?

It's just wrong.

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Originally posted by A&F_FootDude_05:
If he didn't have to lie about his agenda, everything would have been peachy.

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not really, it must've been worse. I agree with what Tyler said, they have to deceive these women into getting the footage

if you don't like the way they're doing it, YOU figure out another way.
 

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Posted by footjoyboy (Member # 26478) on :
 
I always wondered how that guy got those ladies to show their feet.
It's fraud....but I kinda' like it.

_fjb_
 

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Posted by barnyard27 (Member # 2096) on :
 
yea i always wandered this too...guess he won't have anymore updates..i used to talk to the guy from feet-n-sole...he used to show me pics he took...but i had no idea that he got the pics the way he got them...for some people they feel if they ask then the girl will refuse..but me personally i will just go up to the girl & ask..they hardly ever say not to me..but i do do the occasional candid:_)
 

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Posted by J.J. (Member # 24686) on :
 
Even if it's not a crime, it's only a crime when it's found out.

The guy just took it a little too far, he stopped being discreet and started being stupid. Maybe he got carried away, so many feet and so little time
 

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Posted by ThisisMe373 (Member # 2340) on :
 
this guy has the best videos
 

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Posted by Those Toes (Member # 2489) on :
 
Me: "Hey, have you ever thought about being a foot model?"
Her: "No. I hate feet."
Me: "Ok take care"

or

Me: "Hey, have you ever thought about being a foot model?"
Her: "Do I get paid"
Me: "Yes"
Her: *removing shoes"

How hard is that!
 

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Posted by Toe Sucker II (Member # 1720) on :
 
hahahaha i hated him as well.

i hate the commentry he gives on the videos.

tosser.
 

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Posted by Outback69 (Member # 2217) on :
 
I think that the last thing we need to do is encourage more idiots like this by posting positive or what could be taken as positive comments in this thread, so please let's not feed the beast.

Deceit has no place when asking girls to model themselves and their feet for anyone. It actually hurts legitimate guys like me in the end because the media doesn't print positive stories about guys who treat potential models with respect and who also respect the word "no".

Anyone who does this should be shot and p***ed on IMO.

But as long as we don't encourage it then there shouldn't be a market for this right?
 

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Posted by Sole_Solution (Member # 29999) on :
 
LOL... I knew it! I knew it wouldn't be long before he was "exposed." He showed the Women's faces, I'm sure, without having them sign a model release... all under the guise of doing "reflexology" research.

As Brother Tyler said... Using a ruse to get Feet shots has been done before by guys running sites. (Classic example is Murray from 'Everyday Feet') and although we enjoy the fruits of their labor, (I've purchased videos from 'Everyday Feet' and I was a member of both 'ethnicfoot' and 'theback40foot and have tons of pics on my hard drive from both sites) it's just so much worth it to be honest and straight forward with the Women as Brother Those Toes implied with his reply.

I'll be honest. I shoot Foot candids and I've posted pics in Yahoo! groups and on forums. I don't even show the Women's faces, and I shoot secretly! LOL. Although shooting candids in public places isn't unlawful, I don't show faces because, for one, Feet are universal, but the face is personal... And two, I think showing the Woman's face compromises the Woman's privacy if she doesn't know that ol' Sole_Solution has his camera aimed at her Feet.

It's just so much worth it to be straight forward and honest.

[ April 15, 2008, 04:49 PM: Message edited by: Sole_Solution ]
 

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Posted by Foot Lover Of London (Member # 2420) on :
 
Not good at all really...And couldnt use deciet in any form towards women...Those toes summed it right up

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Originally posted by Those Toes:
Me: "Hey, have you ever thought about being a foot model?"
Her: "No. I hate feet."
Me: "Ok take care"

or

Me: "Hey, have you ever thought about being a foot model?"
Her: "Do I get paid"
Me: "Yes"
Her: *removing shoes"

How hard is that!

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Originally posted by Cain:
Yeah you just have to be more creative and inconspicuous when in our business of foot watching...

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and this is what the whole story was about. hr just got busted doing what he does. i can't believe some of you (lurkers included) are making such a big fucking deal out of it.
 

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Posted by bluetoelover (Member # 14736) on :
 
All I have to say is how the fuck does "I'm a reflexology student" actually still work?? It seems like almost every story we see hitting the news these days the guys all say the same fucking line...and get busted! Hint fucking hint it aint working any more!
Not that I am agreeing with their methods but fuck...ask the chick if you can take some shots, then if you want to appear as if it's "candid" just tell her to not even pay attention to the camera! There..problem solved! I'm not gonna lie...I wouldn't even dream of asking a random girl to do that but then again I'm just peachy eye fucking girl's feet in public and trying not to get caught!
 

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Posted by PublicName (Member # 12270) on :
 

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Originally posted by Sinnister:
I'm getting sick of these perverts ruining things for us normal people.

When was the last time a guy with a camera went into a lab and asked the radiologist if he can take pics of womans ta-ta's after their mamagrams?

It's just wrong.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Those Toes:
Me: "Hey, have you ever thought about being a foot model?"
Her: "No. I hate feet."
Me: "Ok take care"

or

Me: "Hey, have you ever thought about being a foot model?"
Her: "Do I get paid"
Me: "Yes"
Her: *removing shoes"

How hard is that!

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Originally posted by Tom Uz:
As far as the story in question, the cure for this problem is already under way just by spreading awareness. When women know what this is about then they won't be able to be deceived, and guys will stop trying to fool them.

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Originally posted by Sinnister:
I'm getting sick of these perverts ruining things for us normal people.

When was the last time a guy with a camera went into a lab and asked the radiologist if he can take pics of womans ta-ta's after their mamagrams?

It's just wrong.

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Originally posted by scrunchlover:

quote:

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Originally posted by Sinnister:
I'm getting sick of these perverts ruining things for us normal people.

When was the last time a guy with a camera went into a lab and asked the radiologist if he can take pics of womans ta-ta's after their mamagrams?

It's just wrong.

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I disagree. He didn't commit a crime.

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no, but he has being lying to all these people which is just as bad, people should just be straigt and honest about what they want like what others here have already said. the whole foot model and gettin paid approach is the way to go.
 

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Posted by Solelvr2009 (Member # 20632) on :
 
Now that I've thought about this, I'm starting to wonder...Do you think one of the ladies' perverted husbands/boyfriends subscribed to either site and discovered their own wife/gf while ???!!!

And another thing, how does he look??? Is he a typical, non-suspicious looking guy??? They would've certainly known something was up if I just walked into a hair/nail salon like that, especially to take vid of feet no matter the reason!!!

[ April 17, 2008, 04:07 PM: Message edited by: Solelvr2009 ]
 

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Posted by seattlesoleman (Member # 8598) on :
 
this dude is in my area, and he's kind of a tool...

get balls and tell the truth, homeboy
 

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Posted by coedfeet (Member # 2738) on :
 

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Originally posted by seattlesoleman:
this dude is in my area, and he's kind of a tool...

get balls and tell the truth, homeboy

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Actually it would take major balls to go into salons and malls and film while pretending to be some student.

I've talked the dude a few times on the phone and email. Seemed ok to me, a non clique guy.

He told me that he used the ruse to save money and not be turned down so much.
As any webmaster who tries to recruit models will tell you, we get turned down a lot.

I warned him that he was risking losing content and money by not having chicks sign a release, but he was willing to take that chance.

Anyways, who says it is him anyway? I didn't see it in the story. I seriously doubt there is only one guy shooting chicks feet in the whole state of washington!
 

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Posted by blackHxC88 (Member # 15094) on :
 

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Originally posted by coedfeet:

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Originally posted by seattlesoleman:
this dude is in my area, and he's kind of a tool...

get balls and tell the truth, homeboy

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Actually it would take major balls to go into salons and malls and film while pretending to be some student.

I've talked the dude a few times on the phone and email. Seemed ok to me, a non clique guy.

He told me that he used the ruse to save money and not be turned down so much.
As any webmaster who tries to recruit models will tell you, we get turned down a lot.

I warned him that he was risking losing content and money by not having chicks sign a release, but he was willing to take that chance.

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Originally posted by Solelvr2009:
This doesn't look like reflexology. It's pretty obvious what he's doing

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Originally posted by Solelvr2009:
I'm confused about why they didnt know

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Originally posted by Solelvr2009:
he cant be our suspect!!!

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Originally posted by coedfeet:
I seriously doubt there is only one guy shooting chicks feet in the whole state of washington!

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Originally posted by Tyler D.:
[QUOTE]

For example, you can hear specific evidence of a woman's loose suspicion (of his foot fetish) and his response to her at position 50 seconds into this clip:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=K05Ra7SLkRo

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LMAO!
Woman: "So you don't have a Foot fetish, do you?"
Tracy: (Awkward pause) "I wish I did. (nervous laugh) It would make this a lot easier."


 

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Posted by National (Member # 8568) on :
 
Here it is. This HAS to be the suspect. He's the same guy in all the clips posted here. Listen VERY carefully at 4mins and 18 seconds into the clip.

The girl says the exact same thing as the story reported.

I TOLD you I was going to find it.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ky7QH-F1zYU


Thank you very much. No applause, please.
 

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Posted by PublicName (Member # 12270) on :
 
Yeah@National.

This guy seems fuckin ridiculous. Sounds like a fuckin doctor.
 

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Posted by Tyler D. (Member # 11452) on :
 

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Originally posted by PublicName:
This guy seems fuckin ridiculous. Sounds like a fuckin doctor.

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That's why his tactic is so successful -- the underlying cognitive psychology of it.

When you can combine the element of a professional (or objective) goal in mind, you can get women to allow a lot of things that they'd naturally consider innocuous (if say a trusted person did the same thing to them).

That's why a lot of similar "would-be" foot-seekers out there have a high fail rate on approach. They lose the seeming professional or objective element in their mannersims, and when the woman senses anything that can be mis-construed as attachment, she will resist (if she's not attracted in that way).

This guy falters at times as you can see (sweating, nervous laugh, etc.), but the objectivity concept of an innocuos common goal still prevails, and he executes sufficiently enough to pull what he has. Using those elements is an effective way to get women to bend their boundaries from what they'd otherwise hold back from an "attached" seeming person.

Great find National!

[ April 18, 2008, 08:33 PM: Message edited by: Tyler D. ]
 

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Posted by National (Member # 8568) on :
 
Thanks, Tyler D!

When I read that article, right away I thought of that clip. The part where he does the reflex test goes hand 'n hand with the story.

If he's not the guy, then he has us all fooled.

But I still love his sites. I was a member of a few of them. It was worth the money.
 

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Posted by goofballa (Member # 3167) on :
 
And how many websites are you running Climax? Major player? Think not!
 

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Posted by Toesucker85 (Member # 16795) on :
 

quote:

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Originally posted by Sinnister:
I'm getting sick of these perverts ruining things for us normal people.

When was the last time a guy with a camera went into a lab and asked the radiologist if he can take pics of womans ta-ta's after their mamagrams?

It's just wrong.

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quote:

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Originally posted by Outback69:
I think that the last thing we need to do is encourage more idiots like this by posting positive or what could be taken as positive comments in this thread, so please let's not feed the beast.

Deceit has no place when asking girls to model themselves and their feet for anyone. It actually hurts legitimate guys like me in the end because the media doesn't print positive stories about guys who treat potential models with respect and who also respect the word "no".

Anyone who does this should be shot and p***ed on IMO.

But as long as we don't encourage it then there shouldn't be a market for this right?

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This is why I love you and respect you. Youre one of the most honorable men in the whole footworld. It's why I wanted to meet you and Dennis (who I also love and respect) in Las Vegas when we thought you'd be there for that Convention (I nagged Ben to death until he agreed to drag me along). You can get as much of my feet as you want, whenver you're in Seattle.

~Malory
 

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Posted by RPM (Member # 2895) on :
 
well said outback69. and Malory, what a response! you made one guy super lucky!!!!!

RPM
 

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Posted by 2nd. To God In Power (Member # 23391) on :
 
LOL This is all just too funny. LOL
 

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Posted by A&F_FootDude_05 (Member # 2999) on :
 
Is this the guy that always does foot video clips of women showing their soles and have them flex their soles and stuff and later on once in a while rub her sole with his finger to get off some supposed dirt that isn't even there
 

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Posted by Those Toes (Member # 2489) on :
 
That dude is a punk ass bitch. Grow some nuts and tell em what the deal is. That's just messed up. He makes me want to
 

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Posted by footster008 (Member # 26335) on :
 
hahaha that guy is a nut
takes some BALLS to do that
 

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Posted by Maxmillion2 (Member # 27350) on :
 
the guys voice annoyed me in his videos, but I dont hate him. He got a LOT of vids and pics from women and I admire that... Its not stoping low, I mean I have mixed feelings about it. It was good, but it also was bad..
 

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Posted by Patrick (Member # 1169) on :
 
I really never did the walk up to a random girl approach. I do remember once at college doing it though. I just walked out of class one day and saw a graduate student I had seen in the computer lab a few times. I thought she was kinda cute and I was running my old The 10 Little Piggies site at the time. I decided to go for broke. I carried around a little book of 4x6 photos that I had take of other girls - of course, the best poses I could find. Anyhow, I started talking to her and she seemed kinda artsy like me and up for stuff. She asked me questions, but never ever came across as freaked out by me. Hell, she even said she was kinda flattered that I was asking her. To lighten the mood I told her we could do them wherever and that I wasn't taking her to some little shack in the woods or anything.

Long story short, we did some photos out in the city and then a couple of months later, we did some more back at her apartment downtown. I helped fix her computer and she put her feet in my lap and told me it was for fixing her computer and she also figured I'd be good at foot massages.

See, you don't always have to be strange about it...

Patrick
 

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Posted by realbean (Member # 3172) on :
 
Regardless of whether it's strictly a crime, at the end of the day someone is jerking off to material he's made by deception that wouldn't have been made otherwise.

Just imagine if that was your wife/sister/mother or something, but lets pretend that it's an armpit site or something so it's not a thing you're into (maybe it is, let me know how that works out for ya!) and would think was 'cool'.

My girlfriend would never let me video or picture her at all to put on any sites or forums. First she says no one would want to see her feet (completely untrue, you should see her soles!!)
Then she says the idea of random perverts jerking off over pictures of her is horrible. She loves me doing it, don't get me wrong, but not other people that she probably wouldn't even like as a person etc...

Not to mention it makes people think that footguys are creepy!

On the other side of things though, I don't really care too much as I have enjoyed viewing a couple of women from his vids...
 

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Posted by Tyler D. (Member # 11452) on :
 

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Originally posted by realbean:
Not to mention it makes people think that footguys are creepy!

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well the unfortunate thing about the pioneering stalwarts of these deceiptful genres is that they are inspiring an entirely new generation of creepy copycats.

I've been seeing an increased number of amateur deceipt videos on youtube and perhaps more alarming is that i saw a clips4sale store that copies the tactics of getting women to show their feet under a veil of deceipt.

that latest copycat clipstore uses some altruistic motivation to get these women to help him out with some sort of study or college class project where he is filming feet for the purpose of shoe design or something.

anyway, the clipstore previews naturally omit or edit out any incriminating behaviors, but when you purchase some of the full clips, you can easily discern the context with or w/o having to read between the lines.

the guy even goes so far as to satisfy his perverted tickling fetish by copping a feel on these women's soles unexpectedly. i saw one woman call him out by asking what that had to do with shoes and you could tell by his pause and tone change he was busted.

anyway, it is noteworthy to know that our community of brethren fetishists are only seeking inspiration from these creepy stalwarts rather than heeding warning or learning valuable lessons.

this will probably always be a slippery slope since so many perverts like to jack off to the feet of women who would obviously disapprove if they knew their feet were being looked at for foot fetish purposes.

it is sad that many women feel that way, but i believe that the increase of creepy foot fetishists has only made those bad impressions last. I mean, even a popular model recruitment site like modelmayhem.com is taking notice of how many creepy foot fetishists ruin it for the rest of us. and unfortunately, those bad apples tarnish the whole bushel

foot fetishists who are creepy should take heed and beware

[ January 18, 2011, 04:58 PM: Message edited by: Tyler D. ]
 

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Posted by GabeM (Member # 24885) on :
 
I could never bring myself to pay for any of this guy's random salon clips, though I have browsed his clips4sale and seen a few on youtube. So many of the women are completely oblivious to the fact that they're providing wank material for someone. This guy may find himself the victim of some lawsuits before long
 

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Posted by Fair Adam (Member # 13350) on :
 
And this is why paid my models, and used mostly established ones, 'cause it only takes a couple of guys like this to give the community a negative image. I personally think that taking sneak shots of women is a bit tacky, and in some cases downright creepy. For those of you who might not agree with me on this, just please try to imagine someone doing this to your mom, wife or sister, you might not find it so amusing when the shoe is on the other foot, sort of speak...
 

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Posted by Kokaith (Member # 22763) on :
 
Why are we dragging this back up? Last post was 2011..................
 

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Posted by tootsylover (Member # 4584) on :
 
His various websites are still alive and well to this day although he doesn't really update as much as he used to it seems...
 

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Posted by TruthBeTold (Member # 47114) on :
 
Jeezus!! Again!? This guy is a real pervert and freak! He keeps getting caught "red handed" and keeps giving us a bad name! Wish he could just control his fetish like I do!!


 

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Posted by silverstar (Member # 50226) on :
 
I never understood, whether he compensated them or not, how these women let him get away with so much. Most women I know would never let any guy be that close when taking their shoes off. Regardless if they smelled or not.
 

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Posted by Kokaith (Member # 22763) on :
 
So...why did we need to resurrect this thread five years later?
 

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Posted by canIsmellYourFeet (Member # 11183) on :
 

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Originally posted by Kokaith:
Why are we dragging this back up? Last post was 2011..................

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Originally posted by tootsylover:
His various websites are still alive and well to this day although he doesn't really update as much as he used to it seems...

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Originally posted by silverstar:
I never understood, whether he compensated them or not, how these women let him get away with so much. Most women I know would never let any guy be that close when taking their shoes off. Regardless if they smelled or not.

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