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Posted by JustVisiting (Member # 37148) on :
 
This is probably the 20th time I’ve started to write this post. Every other time I’ve chickened out at the last minute. I told myself today that this was it so let’s see how far I get.

I’m a 38 year old wife and mother. I have a wonderful husband and a super 12 year old son. Up until maybe 5 months ago I knew nothing at all about foot fetish. I had probably heard the term, but really had no idea what it involved and certainly did not know how common it apparently is. Over the last few months I have been searching online trying to understand it (which is how I found Wus) with the hope that I could learn how to deal with a situation that I honestly don’t know how to deal with.

It started earlier this summer. My son and one of his best friends (I’ll call him Timmy) were at our house when I came home from work. The boys were hungry so after changing from skirt and heels to shorts and flip flops I went outside to cook them some burgers on the grill. After putting the food on the grill I went back in the house to get sunglasses. My son was alone in the living room and I was told that Timmy was using the bathroom (the bathroom has a door in the hallway and also a door leading into my bedroom). When I walked into my bedroom to get my glasses something seemed out of place. I’m not sure why I noticed, but the shoes I had worn to work, and that I was sure I left at the foot of the bed, were not there. Assuming I had thrown them in the closet, I didn’t think anything else of it. Not until about an hour later that is. That was the next time I went into my room, and this time my shoes were right there in plain sight. Since it was just me and the boys in the house, and I knew where my son was when my shoes were missing, I couldn’t find any explanation other than Timmy had taken them, although why he would do something like that I couldn’t imagine. A few days went by and again one day after work I noticed that my shoes were again missing from my room while Timmy was in the bathroom.

That’s when I started searching on google. I needed to know why Timmy was sneaking off with my shoes. Needless to say that I was overwhelmed by the number of sites that dealt with women’s feet and shoes. It was only after reading though numerous forums (especially this one) that I realized that many guys enjoy the smell of women’s feet, and that it is apparently not uncommon for some guys to want to smell the inside of women’s shoes. Of course I’ve also read about guys doing other things with shoes which is why I began looking inside my shoes after Timmy would return them, and thankfully have never found any indication that Timmy was doing anything other than smelling them.

So after becoming somewhat educated on the subject, I began keeping a closer eye on Timmy. Almost like clockwork he would need to visit the bathroom shortly after I came home from work. He would take my shoes each time. I also began to notice from the corner of my eye that he seemed to stare at my feet a lot especially when I was barefoot or wearing something like flip flops. Then one day when we were sitting around watching a movie I noticed that Timmy seemed to be doing an aweful lot of texting on his phone. But there was something weird about how he was holding it. Almost as if he was aiming it at me. I began to wonder if he was taking pictures. When the movie was over, the boys went outside to go in the pool. Now I know what I did next is very wrong, but I would argue that so is taking someone’s picture without them knowing. I grabbed his phone and looked for pictures on it. There must have been about 30 pictures of me, all from that day. Most were just of my feet, but there were a few head to toes shots.

So this is my dilemma. My son’s best friend is apparently obsessed with my feet. He sneaks off whenever he can to get at my shoes. He probably has a harddrive full of pictures of me. I think he has even stolen an old pair of flip flops from my closet. He’s really such a good kid. Until all of this I always thought of him as another son. I’ve thought about confronting him, but I’d hate to embarrass him that way, not to mention I’d probably be too embarrassed talking to him about it. So for the past few months I’ve lived with it. I’ve tried to rationalize that it’s not hurting anyone. The one thing I am worried about is him getting caught by either my son or my husband. That would certainly be worse than me talking to him.

Sorry for being so longwinded, but I had to get this off my chest and this seemed to be the best place. I would really appreciate any suggestions.
 

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Posted by Danielle Moore (Member # 34633) on :
 
Hi love,

You have a very interesting situation, one that is very sensitive considering the age of your sons friend. I understand your dilemma, on one hand you want it to stop before it gets out of hand and on the other, you don't want to embarrass him. I think you have an opportunity to help him going forward. You must confront him to ensure he doesn't go through life thinking it's ok to steal Women's shoes. It's true, that it may be a little uncomfortable for the both of you but the uncomfortable feeling is nothing compared to the anger and betrayal that your husband and son might feel should they find out.

Go gentle on him and let him know that what he is feeling is natural. Maybe just let him know that the way he is exploring his newly found sexuality is wrong and that there are other avenues that he can explore that do not include theft of women's shoes.

I hope this helps,

Dani
xoxo
 

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Posted by ROYALS22262 (Member # 2681) on :
 
This is a very sensitive subject. On the one hand you can certainly take it as a compliment, he obviously thinks that you and your feet are very attractive. It can, however, be troubling as he certainly is violating your things, and your privacy. I am not a therapist, but I feel for you both. He has a crazy crush and foot lust for you which, as a foot fetishist I understand, but he is also violating boundaries. What I suggest may be controversial, but I think it is best. I would confront the young man in private, nobody else but you and him. Tell him how much you like him, and think of him as a son, and that he is a great friend to your son. Then make a deal with him, that he can deal with. Listen, I know you like my feet and I am flattered. The taking of my picture and the taking of my shoes has to stop though. I will let you massage my feet for ten minutes, when you are done, you are not to ever touch my shoes again! Do we have a deal? This is JUST between you and I, nobody else is to know, OK? Not EVEN my son! UNDERSTAND? I want us to remain friends, can you comply with my wishes? You will give him an incredible thrill, something for him to remember, you will make him happy, and give him enough for him to stop his behavior at least with you! Hopefully win/win without embarrasment or further trouble.
 

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Posted by ToeSucker83 (Member # 3187) on :
 
You should communicate this situation to your husband, and ask him that you want his help, but you feel awkward and embarrassed if you have to embarrass the kid. Between your husband and yourself, the two of you should be able to find a diplomatic way to confront either the child, or his parents. And his parents can deal with the situation the way they feel is fitting.

I hope you find a tactful way to solve your problem!
 

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Posted by desmond (Member # 20001) on :
 
hi there,

thanks for sharing your story/dilemma.
For us men loving the smell of women is nothing strange or new, men love the smell of a women and especially the places where scent seems to really set in, which is why lots of men like feet and shoes and sock and other worn items.

Please don't think any less of this young boy.
I can only speak for myself, but there's nothing strange about me (as far as I know) and I've loved women's feet for as long as I can remember.

Sexual/sensual urges tend to make us do things that we probably shouldn't do, but as we (humans) get older, we think before we act on any urges (I like to think most people do that).

But I have to admit that when I was a young boy, I actually did quite simular things, not the exact same thing, but simular things, of which I now really hope and pray that nobody ever caught me with, but at the time when I was 10 years old or 12 or something, I really didn't realise what I was doing exactly, I just know that I really enjoyed it, the urges were very strong.

in every walk of life you have good and bad people, good religious people, bad religious people, good employers, bad employers, good workers, bad workers and among men that love womens feet there are also strange weirdo's and normal regular men.

If this young boy is a nice boy and a good boy personality wise and you've always been happy that he's part of your son's life, please don't judge him on the fact that he has this urge for your feet, he's very young and probably doen't fully understand what kind of bounderies he's crossing right now, he'll probably be very ashamed of what he's doing right now in a few years. not that it's wrong to love feet, but taking your shoes and pictures is wrong, but at this time he's only 12 years old and he has nothing in his life that comes even close to the sexual needs he's most likely having and these things that he's doing are the best thing he's got at the moment.

I really don't know what you should do right now, I don't think anyone is able to give you a helpfull sugestion.
it would be crazy if he got caught by your son or your husband and like you said, if you confront him, he'll probably be very very very ashamed and embarressed.

But I have to be honest, I really think it's the best way to go, if you're able to have a good talk with him and you have that kind of relationship with him that you think you're able to have this kind of conversation with him, then I think you should. It's a hard thing to do.

I know I'm probably taking myself down by what I'm going to say next.
I still consider myself to be a very normal guy and I'll share my skeleton in the closet with you and everyone who's reading right now, for the benefit of this young boy, who's probably just a very nice boy who happens to love women's feet.
When i got around the age of 17 or 18 I used to have this huge fear.. the fear of having my sister's friends find out about "foot fetish".
Because when I was really young (about 11 or 12), I always used to play this game with her friends, just playing around like kids do which involved me being in a dark little tent, while my sisters friends would stickk their hands in the tent very quickly trying to grab candy off the floor before i could catch them with my mouth. silly stupid game, I know, but when playing with friends and/or girlfriends at that age you tend to do silly games.
I was kind of fast and had them most of the time, even though I couldn't see that well in the dark little tent, but eventually your sight get's better in the dark while your eyes adjust and one of my sisters girlfriends stuck her foot in the tent as a joke too see what i would do and to see if i could even see the difference between her hand or foot in the dark.
men i got so nervous and didn't know what to do, I eventually just got real close to her socked foot and smelled it, but after she did that, all of them just stuck their feet in their and i couldn't resist anymore, so i just has all of those pretty socked feet in my face and in my mouth from time to time when we played that game and i always acted lilke I hated it and was discusted when they jokingly put their feet in the tent in stead of their hands...

men, it's kind of painfull to share this weird story of mine, but it's a true story and now that i'm 30 years old, I'm still kind of embarres everytime i see one of my sisters friends, because they're my age and some only 1 year younger that me and surely they now know what that game was all about to me, even though I acted like I was discusted with the fact that they put their feet in their in stead of their hands sometimes, they probably knew I liked it, because I'm a bad actor and anytime a socked foot came in their, I was all over it, men this story could really take me down from a normal guy to sounding like an idiot or weirdo.

hopefully this didn't take me down so much.
I'm still ashamed somewhat of that whole game and anytime I encounter some of my sisters friends, I still hope and pray that they forgot about that thing, it really meant a lot to me at the time, it was very nice, I'm sure it didn't mean a thing to them so hopefully they've forgotten about it by now.

please don't judge this young boys caracter in anyway. I think he'll be ashamed forever if you talked to him about it, but if you think that there's a huge chance of him getting caught by your son or husband, talk to him.
If the chance of him getting caught is very small, please just let him do his "thing" to the extent that you feel comfortable with it, confront him when you think he's taking pictures, make a joke out of it or something.
so he'll stop doing that, about the shoes, men, if you can handle that fact that he smelles them, just let him do that.
I promise you that he'll be so ashamed within a year or two that he'll just stop doing it, because most likely he'll be having a girlfriend or something.

I really don't know how to end this reply in a way that still makes me sound like a sane person.
But if the chance of him getting caught is minimal, just try to control the things about the situation that bopther you, like the cellphone pictures, just try to jokingly comment on it while you think he's doing it, he'll probably be so afraid of getting caught then that he'll stop taking them all together.
maybe he'll even stop with the shoes, but if you can handle him smelling your shoes, just wait it out, he'll stop doing it.

for him being a big fan of your feet, don't expect him to stop that, he'll probably still like your feet when he's grown up into adulthood, don't judge him on that, it doesn't mean that he doesn't respect you or likes you, feet can be very sensual/sexually attractive to men and if he likes yours now, he'll like them 15 years from now. he's just to young to realise that he's going a little to far at this moment to satisfy his urges.

He'll realise it soon enough, maybe jokingly confronting him while he's taking cellphone pictures of your feet will be enough to skare him into getting caught.

I hope you found something usefull in my twisted story and revelations of my own shamefull youth, I really couldn't help myself when I was 11 years old and this boy that's takes your shoes can't help himself either, but it I think it would be enough to jokingly confront him when he's taking pictures, If it were me, I would be scared to death at that moment, scared that you'll ask for the phone to check or scared that my friend (your son) would want to check, men it would kill me if that happened to me and I don't think I'll ever take a risk like that again, because then you know that the mother is watching you in a way.

that's mu suggestion,

hope I've helped in anyway, if not, I tried my best to do so.

greetings from europe

Desmond

(30 years old and still claiming to be a regular social human being!!! haha)
 

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Posted by Andy-Laa (Member # 31511) on :
 
Mmm, it's a confusing time at 12 and finding you have a foot fetish. I wouldn't really say that you should confront him (but this could be me thinking of how embarrassed *I* would be were someone to bring it up with me in a similar situation).

When I was younger, I used to take candid feet photos for obvious purposes and very nearly sniffed a few pairs of shoes (but managed to contain myself, fortunately.) Yes, it was wrong (part of the danger was exciting), but I would LIKE to say he'll grow out of it. I did and haven't become a foot-crazed maniac or anything. I'm in a healthy relationship with a girl I love more than oxygen...

It is a tricky one; the first step would have to be not being barefoot around him and not leaving your shoes where he can get at them (I, as a fetishist, even hesitated to write that haha, but it really would be for the best).

I mean, you know your husband better than anyone else obviously, but if you think he'd be insightful, non-judgmental and be able to offer some advice on the subject, then by all means go for it, but only if all those categories are fulfilled. It's a delicate time and any negative connotations you might (accidentally) put-forward about him being "not normal" or whatever may lead him down the path of the clandestine and make him be "the guy" who gets arrested for licking girls' feet while they sleep etc...

My basic message is that although I could not guarantee that he'll grow out of it, drawing from my own personal experiences, it's likely and I think the cons of talking to him about it may well outweigh the pros...I really hope this was helpful.

I feel awful for even suggesting it, but maybe a scare tactic might be useful...for instance knocking on the door to ask if he's alright, shouting up the stairs "Has anyone seen my shoes? I could have sworn I left them here..." and then allowing him time to return them etc...it sounds callous, but if it shocks him into not doing it anymore...perhaps it'd be worth it...

(And you honestly have nothing to worry about posting on forums like these - some have really mean guys on them, but this one is full of decent, upstanding people...plus you're totally anonymous )

I hope you let us know what you decide. Genuinely, the best of luck with it, "JustVisiting".

[ November 09, 2009, 12:21 PM: Message edited by: Andy-Laa ]
 

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Posted by Andy-Laa (Member # 31511) on :
 

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Originally posted by desmond:

Sexual/sensual urges tend to make us do things that we probably shouldn't do, but as we (humans) get older, we think before we act on any urges (I like to think most people do that).

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Posted by desmond (Member # 20001) on :
 
Hi andy-laa,

I agree with you.

The scare tactics will most likely be enough to scare him into stopping it all together.

it would've beeen more than enough for me to stop doing if it was me at 12 years old!!!

scare tactics, ofcourse it will scare him like he's never been scared before, but maybe it should, because he's just crossing some lines here and he doesn't really realise it now, but he probably will in a few years, but using scare tactics will probably speed up the process of him realising that he's actually going a little overboard with taking the shoes and pictures.
 

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Posted by Fwrinkledsoles (Member # 101) on :
 
To your son's friend, I am 59 years old now but when I was around 9 years old a few decades ago. My best friend mom feet was attracted to me and for many years, and even when I went into the Navy I use to masturbate thinking about her feet. And, even today I occision think of her feet.

I remember this one time when I spent the night at their house. My best friend and his brother when to bed early in which I wasn't sleep so his mom and I look at the TV supposely until I got sleep. But, I was on a mission to touch my best friend mom feet.

After reading your letter and thinking back I wish she had let me massaged her feet as often as I wanted it. It was on my mind but I was to young to ask and would have been embarressed if I did and the fear of getting in to trouble.
 

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Posted by Fwrinkledsoles (Member # 101) on :
 
What I subject but it might be risky which is if you like the idea of him smelling your shoes is to give him a pair as a present with a little note saying, “I know what you have been up to with my shoes and its okay and I understand because you are not along in this kinder behavior a lot of males in the world enjoy what you are doing.” But, first you have to know this kid and I believe if he going to be a truth foot fetishes person he will not saying anything to anyone about his gift of his best friend mom’s shoes.
Right today my wife now wrinkled soles feet is one of the biggest reason I married her and so my two ex-wives, if is all about women feet to me and always will be. I am always worshipping her feet so much she allowed me to find other women feet to worship.
The smell is intoxicating, the feel of those wrinkled soles is sensual and the sight of woman feet in high-heels shoes is sexual. Today, it is a turn on but at my age I leave the physical sex out because it will became an addiction. Because I have learned from my past to only play with other women feet to satisfied my desire in which it is clean, honest and most of all the enjoyment of worshipping another women feet.
By the way, foot fetish guys make to best lover I have been told by many women because we are patient by starting with a woman foot first which is fore-play.
 

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Posted by Dick Lipschitz (Member # 127) on :
 
I know I'm developing something of a reputation as the in-house skeptic, but something sets off my Spidey sense about this posting.

Admittedly, I've been very interested in some friends' mothers over the years and have done things with their shoes and lacy underthings that would make "Timmy" seem like a choir boy, so this posting is very hot in its own way.

It seems to me, though, that a "mom" interested enough in researching this further would have plenty of medical/psychological/scientific resources available online before turning to a forum where people post photos of cum-soaked footjobs and explicit stories about their own experiences. Just sayin'.

If I'm wrong, please join me in welcoming our new visitor aboard. But something tells me I'm not.

Cheers,
DL
 

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Posted by RPM (Member # 2895) on :
 
Hello,

I can write a personal story, or give you a long 'talk' that i'm known for around these parts. but let me just go a little simple and ramble from there.

first, welcome to our place. second, you're the coolest mom!!! you're responding to this with much thought and much much care. I fully applaud you on this!!! you're a wise woman, and your hubbie is blessed to have you!

ok. to the matter at hand, getting your hubbie invovled feels bad (initially). he could take it any number of ways, and you know him best.

my thoughts lean on having a chat with him. he's like a son to you. something along these lines:

You're a son to me and i've discovered something that potentially tough to talk about. what i've notices is..... (explain what you've noticed). I'm cool with you exploring what you like, but I'd love to see you use some thought to what you do. It's between you and I and it can stay that way if you respect my wishes. For starters, please don't take full head to toe pics of me. if you do, things won't stay cool. second, you're not alone in what you like. how you go about it is what makes all the difference in the world. it's not cool to go grabbing women's bodies, it's disrespectful, feet are part of that whole (you don't have to phrase it that way of course, you get the idea)

this part is more my opinion than anything, outline what you think is fair exploration that involves consent, discretion. A foot massage may not convey the thought.. but you're the best person to judge.

in the end, the goal is to let him know that you know, and that if he shows respect, you won't tell anyone else that can embarass him. and that you're flattered by it all. and that you're hoping he can find his way and share this with someone closer to his age later on in his teen life. (yeah, i'm a bit conservative)

let me share briefly my personal story. my mom as so not cool with me showing interest in women in my teens (very religious old school) and the time she suspected i had a thing for feet, she was super heavy handed in punishment.. i took my interest underground. took years to bounce back. but i digress.

a woman at church did pick up on my interest, because i kept staring at her anytime she had on mega heels. (i like high heeled women and hosed peds). one day, she pulled me aside and said that she noticed something about me that singled me out as a growing man. i had a great eye for fashion and she hoped that when i grew up, i'd find a woman who'd model for me and dress up for me. she then, slipped her shoe off (discretely looking).. my jaw dropped.. she lightly touched my jaw and said, you see son, that is what i'm talking about. you're sensitive enought to know when a woman looks great and when her feet are tired. and as you grow up, you'll learn to keep your expressions discrete. that can open up doors for you later in life.

i got the lesson. we got to know each other better. i hung out with her kids more. i could tell she knew well what i was about. but that interaction was a life saver. i learned to be discrete and less obvious. also, learned to be patient. months later, she and i did have another chat about what it was about heels that made a gal sexy (and she took the more academic and scientific approach). what made my life awesome, she never told anyone. and when my mom had her outburst on me (she hoped by embarassing me, i'd forget what i liked) this woman took me aside and said that not everyone would get it, but i'd soon learn to discern who did, and i'd have a great future as a sensitive man.

this made a huge difference in my life (i kept the story as short as i could). yes, i eventually asked her permission to massage her feet (i was 14 at the time and our friendship was well passed 2 years in the making). i only got one massage though and it was short.. she told me that in the context i had asked, it was appropriate and she agreed because i had shown great tact and discretion. i was her hero.

bottom line, had she gone a harsher road, it would have scarred me. she set the boundaries well. though i was tempted to smell her shoes many times and had access, our chat set that boundary clear and i didn't want to dissappoint her. i think in retrospect, i could have negotiated for that option.

so, before i digress further....... if i was him... i'd be mortified you knew.. but releived that you'd talked to me and made me feel at ease that if i didn't misbehave no one needed to know.

if the outcome of the talk was geared to increase my awareness of myself and comfort with myself and emphasis on self-control, i'd say it would have been a good talk. one that i'd be beat red about about, but one i'd respect. the teen side would have loved to have the option to sniff your shoes in the future as the custom became to be what it is.. with the contractual agreement never to "deposit" anything in the heels. and of course some framework to stop sniffing over a course of limited time (yeah, i'm rooting a little for the fella.. but limited time like a few more days spread out)

i digress a little again. you're really a cool mom!! that's awesome!!!!!

i suspect your son may have an idea. i knew all the kids in my circle who had a thing for feet. some handled it well.. others became perves about it. just like breast guys spot each other fast, i suspect footguys the same.

it's refreshing to see such an open minded "newbie" to the subject. i'm so glad you didn't freak out about it.

now, if he can't respect your wishes and give you space, then, please, let him know your husband will get involved. and if that doesn't help him straighten out, in due course, his folks will know (don't let him know how much details his folks will know or not know). i suspect he's done this with you because of not just a crush, but because he knows you're really cool and he's hoping to figure this out before getting caught.

but please, talk to him! if he doesn't get assist, he can take it way too far. and it's a compliment to you.. some gals have really stinky feet (and i'm not a fan of such) and yours have that appealing fragrance. cool stuff.

feel free to ask us more questions.. many of us have tons to say.. and i've said a lot more than tons. keep us posted. if you want to stick around later, be our guess. if not, glad we were able to help you out!

RPM

p.s. by the way, some of the pix i've posted online were from mom's who understood and shared their time with me as friends.. (never a face pic.. though.. lol)
 

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Posted by RPM (Member # 2895) on :
 
one note on the scare tactics.. it delays the obvious... but in my case, took my interest underground.. meaning.. i suppressed it for years.. but later, it was a problem creating loads of guilt and making me shy about dating. i started dating real late in life because i was trying to figure out if i was such a sick puppy that i didn't deserve love.

what helped me get past it was that lady's gentle but firm and fair approach with me. remembering her words and testing the waters and slowly opening up and learning i'm not crazy!

however, you know this kid almost like he was your son. i'm fully confident you'll do the right thing. you've researched this well.

you can go the open talk route.. or you can just cut his access off... but a conversation would help... even with denied access.

RPM
 

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Posted by redd (Member # 7848) on :
 
DL, you are not alone. Same feeling when reading...just sayin'...
 

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Posted by swman (Member # 11682) on :
 
Thats a crazy story but it is after all just a story. Come on guys, I know I'm not the only one who doesn't believe a word of this am I?
 

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Posted by charlie8086 (Member # 4216) on :
 
I would suggest maybe pretending to fall asleep in your bedroom with the door open,or on the couch.Leave your feet very visible to the little fella and if he does have that strong of a fetish he will try to get closer.I would guess he would have to try to catch a smell or take a picture.Catch him in the act,but be easy.This way you are not accusing him of something.I think it would be good for the kid, let him know softly that this kind of thing violates people and is socially noy accepted.It will also embarriss the shit out of him.But if the little bastard posts pics of your piggies,you know we are going to appreciate his work.
 

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Posted by GQguy (Member # 16534) on :
 
I like Andy Laa's suggestion. The "where are my shoes" bit would have scared me at his age. If he persist, then talk to him one on one. Let him know that his urges are normal but remind him that one must not act on all urges.

I remember being 12 and "borrowing" my mothers victoria secret catalogues. I was caught and pretty embarrased. But it's all part of growing up. I expect the same sort of thing when my son is a preteen-teen.

Good luck!

GQ
 

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Posted by Andy-Laa (Member # 31511) on :
 
People who think this is a fake: what does this one achieve?

She's real bruhs...
 

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Posted by Dick Lipschitz (Member # 127) on :
 

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Originally posted by Andy-Laa:
She's real bruhs...

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And you know this how?

I'm not trying to be confrontational. Really, I'm not. I love the teenager/hot mom thing more than you'll ever know, having dropped enough jizz into my best friend's mom's heels and stockings when I was a teen to fill a 55-gallon barrel. But this post just doesn't ring true.

Too many details, too many small pieces of information ("... changing from skirt and heels to shorts and flip flops ...") seemingly designed to pique the interest of horny foot-loving guys (yes, just like me). The writing doesn't read like someone who's prepared to ask a question ... it reads like an essay with a straw-man payoff at the end. It's a little on the breathless side ("... probably the 20th time I've started to write this post ..."), and it reads like a Penthouse Forum letter ("I’m a 38 year old wife and mother. I have a wonderful husband and a super 12 year old son."). And, without going into details about what I do for a living and why I am able to come to this educated conclusion, it reads like a man wrote it.

I acknowledge I could be wrong. But I don't think so.

Cheers,
DL
 

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Posted by Andy-Laa (Member # 31511) on :
 
I don't really read it like that, but...again I ask why would she do that?

I've just had an embarrassingly long past of seeing fake profiles on Facebook in particular (not like "Come meet me at_______" or anything, just general troll accounts/people trying to pass themselves off as other people...)

I may be chatting myself up a bit here, but I've managed to get a good understanding of what a fake person/post is and I'd be willing to vouch for the validity of this one....

There's no reason NOT to post advice here anyway...that's what Wu's is all about...
 

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Posted by RPM (Member # 2895) on :
 
from my vantage point of view..... in the real world, i've had a few gal pals ask me for advice on similar situations. a guy in their life has a foot fetish. they find out about it by piecing together little details.. and now they're curious as all heck to know what's the deal.

let's say for arguement sake this was a fake, it does speak to and voice concerns that folks have had in real life!

flip the scrip around. let's say she's really who she says she is.. and this is the way to treat her?

it's the web, i don't sink a lot of time trying to figure what gender is behind everything i read.

i responded to it at face value. in the event it was a guy having his rocks stroked at all the advice, this hurts me none either.

off to the pic section.. find a few of my fav's to look at

RPM
 

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Posted by nusuth (Member # 7372) on :
 
dunno, this doesnt come off as fake to me either. there isnt any pay off for it. it does sound to me like a mom who is utterly baffled as to what to do.. but i also wouldnt bet on its validity either. the net is an odd place.

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I will let you massage my feet for ten minutes, when you are done, you are not to ever touch my shoes again! Do we have a deal? This is JUST between you and I, nobody else is to know, OK? Not EVEN my son! UNDERSTAND?

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Originally posted by nusuth:
dunno, this doesnt come off as fake to me either. there isnt any pay off for it. it does sound to me like a mom who is utterly baffled as to what to do.. but i also wouldnt bet on its validity either. the net is an odd place.

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DL, I am one of the skepticals. But not saying that this person should be condemned for what they are posting. Like DL said, a good story that I enjoyed. I thank her for the post and if she is real, I hope she does find the solution to this delicate situation. You are right, there are nothing to gain and we don't have to be on a look out for fraud, there is no harms done if she is not real or at least the situation is not real. Sorry you had to defned this postion by youself, but I am exactly wheee you are on this one.

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Thanks. I guess I'm just in a feisty mood. It does seem to me, though, that our nice little village has been visited a lot recently by phonies, so maybe I'm simply trying to stand at the gates.

Likewise, as mentioned earlier, if the original poster is genuine, I welcome her aboard and hope she finds the useful information she needs here.

Cheers,
DL
 

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Posted by ROYALS22262 (Member # 2681) on :
 
There is no real way to determine if this poster is on the level or not. We don't have to be the FBI or CIA here. What's the difference really? It IS a question that is relevant. Somebody could use good advice on this topic! Someone could benefit. Now, I was also told my advice was the worst ever, but this individual thought a scare tactic on a 12 year old boy was better! I suggested a FOOT MASSAGE, not anything crazy here! The idea of keeping it secret was to protect him and his feelings, which haven't reached puberty yet. IT was not to cause further harm. In the alternative solutions, the husband and the friend would find out ANYWAY! SO WHAT IS THE HARM, IF THEY FOUND OUT about the foot massage in my scenario. He could easily explain it away, saying her feet hurt I thought I was being nice offering a massage, that's all! THE SCARE TACTIC, and his motivation and fetish are laid out for everyone to ridicule!!!! WHOSE ADVICE IS THE WORST EVER? Sometimes LESS is BEST, and some things can be kept private between two individuals. Just like there is a time and place for WHITE LIES, there is a time and place for keeping things on the DOWN LOW!
 

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Posted by joebond (Member # 11049) on :
 
(And you honestly have nothing to worry about posting on forums like these - some have really mean guys on them, but this one is full of decent, upstanding people...plus you're totally anonymous )Wow thanks Andy... ...Now then should'nt it be a matter of RESPECT????I know exactly where this young boy is coming from I've had a love for female feet (and I think more than 90% of us in here)since I can remember.BUT even when I came into my own sexually I always knew there were limits.I've of course checked out friends mothers feet but never stolen from them or took pictures without them knowing..I think you should confront him and maybe he will be embarrassed but I think theres a good chance he wont steal from anyone again..
 

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Posted by Brek (Member # 28601) on :
 

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Originally posted by nusuth:
dunno, this doesnt come off as fake to me either. there isnt any pay off for it. it does sound to me like a mom who is utterly baffled as to what to do.. but i also wouldnt bet on its validity either. the net is an odd place.

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C'mon, think about it. You're a responsible mom, looking for information about your son's friend's apparent foot fetish and what your response should be. It's a baffling topic to you, maybe a little disturbing even, and you're eager to learn more. You want advice about how to proceed. So where are you, a 38-year-old mom with a great husband and a super 12-year-old son, going to seek reliable information about this subject? Any one of the dozens of online sources of medical/psychological information about sexuality and its variations? Or a website devoted to hot stories, hot girls and hot photos?

The pieces do not add up.

Listen, I admit that it seems like I'm becoming the resident grump around here -- a la the story about a birthday party featuring 10 girls and a group of knowing friends, anyone? -- and I'm probably not winning any fans right now. That's not the role I'm trying to take on here, but it seems like a lot of otherwise-sharp people are being played a bit during recent weeks.

Think about the 38-year-old women (or moms) you know, and decide for yourself what choice they'd make in a similar situation. If you come to the conclusion that they'd come here for information, please introduce them to me, because they'd probably be a lot of fun to play with.

But feel free to decide for yourself whether this is on the level or not.

Cheers,
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Originally posted by JustVisiting:
This is probably the 20th time I’ve started to write this post. Every other time I’ve chickened out at the last minute. I told myself today that this was it so let’s see how far I get.

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Over the last few months I have been searching online trying to understand it (which is how I found Wus) with the hope that I could learn how to deal with a situation that I honestly don’t know how to deal with.

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You need to be registered to even read the forum, yet your registration date is 9 November, same day you posted your message. How much research here did you really do? Anyways.

Yeah, just quit leaving your shoes on the floor for the kid to sniff and jerk off too. You should have done that the minute you figured out what was happening. Common sense, no? Unless it's a power trip for you, but that's another issue -- leave the boy alone and post your feet here instead. Oh, and the next time he points his camera at you, just look him square in the face and say, "Stop it." That's it, just, "Stop it." He'll get it.



[ November 10, 2009, 08:53 AM: Message edited by: Below_the_Ankles ]
 

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Posted by ozboy (Member # 518) on :
 
You are at a stage now where you can either make him or break him. I say make him !! Show him a little shoe play. Innocently pose your feet for him, scrunch your toes, leave a few more pairs of shoes for him to smell and last but not least put your feet next to him on the couch when he's sitting down and wiggle those toes like crazy.....
 

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Posted by sofatater (Member # 4209) on :
 
If the post is fake, So What? If it was posted so that the poster could get off on the fact that others were reading it and responding, so what? Isn't that the reason that we all come here, for entertainment? And sometimes advice?

If it's a legit post, then like others have said, it'll provide some valuable advice to the poster and maybe others with a similar situation that are not comfortable posting. We have no way of knowing what's going on with others or who's lurking and reading without contributing. Look at my member number. I was here reading posts for a long time before I actually commented for the first time.

My point is, if you think any post is fake or you simply don't like it's content (i.e. a photo of a particular foot isn't up to your liking) let's try not to make a negative comment about it. It's just not necessary and it can hurt someone's feelings. Try to put yourself into the other person's shoes (no pun intended). That said, let's keep Wu's the fun and positive place we've all come to respect and love. The weenies will weed themselves out.


 

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Posted by JustVisiting (Member # 37148) on :
 
Well let me start by thanking everyone who has offered advice. I really do appreciate it.

To those who question my motive, I’m not sure what to say. You certainly have the right to your opinions, and I’m sure there must be valid reasons for your skepticism. I assume it’s the nature of this environment. While I have no reason or desire to spend any great deal of time defending myself, I do feel it necessary to at least recant some of the accusations made to me, if for nothing else than to try to assure those who took the time to respond with advice that they were not wasting their time.

Someone questioned why I would seek advice on a forum of this nature rather than a reputable medical/psychological forum. I never said that I hadn’t followed that path. In fact that is where I started. And although I did find much information, I felt that I still didn’t understand what this young boy was going through. My hope here was to maybe hear from others who have had, or still have, the same feelings and desires that Timmy has. Like I said, I’ve always thought of him as a son and I want to be extremely careful with this situation. I have wondered how I would feel if this situation was between my son and Timmy’s mom. Would I want to know? Would I want her to confront him. How would he be affected by a confrontation? Just trying to give Timmy the respect and understanding that I would want for my own son.

Someone also mentioned that I registered on the forum yesterday, the same day of my post. That’s true. I had registered a few months back when this stuff began and poked around for a couple days. But after a few days, I deleted cookies and history, and deleted the temporary email account I had set up to “cover my tracks”. It was only when I finally decided to post that I set up new accounts, including an email account. Trust me, in a few days they will be gone, and hopefully you will never hear from me again.

Again, for those who have suspicions of me, I’m sorry. My intent was only to seek advice. And as for the advice, I did find much of it useful. On the other hand, advice suggesting that I let him touch my feet or that I try to tease him is what I consider out of line. He is a kid after all. After all is said and done, I may decide the best approach is to do nothing at all. Several have suggested that Timmy will grow out of this. I just don’t know. Thanks again, and I will probably continue to follow this thread for a few days in case anyone has anything else to add.
 

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Posted by anastacia (Member # 29509) on :
 
this is just great lol
having a young boy loving your feet
could be not normal, but its real life hehe
 

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Posted by swman (Member # 11682) on :
 

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Originally posted by A&F_FootDude_05:
I think it's fake!! But I didn't think that initially

I think this person wants to get off at the responses..

did you see the e-mail listed for 'JustVisiting's profile?

motherofone@live.com

that is a pretty odd name for an e-mail address. I feel that the email is only to go along with people who are skeptical. This person is smart...

why would she come to this site when she can ask her 'wonderful husband' That 'wonderful husband' might not be into feet but he could give her an answer

JustVisiting is an odd name too...not only is this person trying to disguise who they are, they are also trying to disguise their intentions....just my two cents fellas.

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Originally posted by ROYALS22262:
There is no real way to determine if this poster is on the level or not. We don't have to be the FBI or CIA here. What's the difference really? It IS a question that is relevant. Somebody could use good advice on this topic! Someone could benefit. Now, I was also told my advice was the worst ever, but this individual thought a scare tactic on a 12 year old boy was better! I suggested a FOOT MASSAGE, not anything crazy here! The idea of keeping it secret was to protect him and his feelings, which haven't reached puberty yet. IT was not to cause further harm. In the alternative solutions, the husband and the friend would find out ANYWAY! SO WHAT IS THE HARM, IF THEY FOUND OUT about the foot massage in my scenario. He could easily explain it away, saying her feet hurt I thought I was being nice offering a massage, that's all! THE SCARE TACTIC, and his motivation and fetish are laid out for everyone to ridicule!!!! WHOSE ADVICE IS THE WORST EVER? Sometimes LESS is BEST, and some things can be kept private between two individuals. Just like there is a time and place for WHITE LIES, there is a time and place for keeping things on the DOWN LOW!

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a 12 year old boy

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did you see the e-mail listed for 'JustVisiting's profile?

motherofone@live.com

that is a pretty odd name for an e-mail address. I feel that the email is only to go along with people who are skeptical. This person is smart...

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The email I used on this forum isn't my real on though, laaaa.

Mine is "caty-babe@hotmail.com" - long, uninteresting story haha. I'm suprised you don't use a fake/foot email address, actually...
 

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Posted by FootFugger (Member # 3098) on :
 
I think leaving a note in your shoes when you get home is subtle and swift justice. A note saying "Please leave my shoes alone." would scare the piss out of him and he'd stop in an instant. LOL

Lastly, any chance we can get a few shots of these lustful feet? Soles preferably.
 

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Posted by manolojchoo (Member # 1257) on :
 

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Lastly, any chance we can get a few shots of these lustful feet? Soles preferably.

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Now, I was also told my advice was the worst ever, but this individual thought a scare tactic on a 12 year old boy was better! I suggested a FOOT MASSAGE, not anything crazy here! He could easily explain it away, saying her feet hurt I thought I was being nice offering a massage, that's all!...WHOSE ADVICE IS THE WORST EVER? Sometimes LESS is BEST, and some things can be kept private between two individuals.

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first, let me correct you. i didnt say you gave the worst advice ever.. is said, worst. advice. ever.

ok to be a little more serious here. are you out of your mind ROYALS22262?!?!?! he's 12! as in 4 younger than is legal in the most lenient state in the US. you can fool yourself all you want saying it only rubbing her feet, but everyone here knows that it means a hell of alot more than that to him. there is a HUGE sexual aspect of him touching her feet in any way what so ever. you say they arent breasts, but again we all know that to us, they are as good, if not better to some of us, than any set of tits. and to bracket this arguement with my first point.. HE'S 12!!!!

ignoring that fact, i have another issue with your advice.. why would you condone that she lie to her hubby about this? is that the attitude you would have in a relationship? knowing that a guy is getting off on touching her, she should let him and keep her hubby in the dark? you know it's not innocent or else you wouldnt have to lie about it or, as you put it, 'kept private between two individials.' oh yeah.. and he's not an individual.. i'm not sure if i mentioned this but.. he's 12!!!

what would any of you say if your 12YO daughter had a friend who would come over and get off in a sexual manner to you? i hope most of you would nip that in the bud PDQ. would you encourage the guy to let her get her jollies?

c'mon Royals.. climb out of your own private fantasy and come back to the real world where engaging in a sexual act with a minor is immoral, disgusting, and reprehensible.
 

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Posted by ROYALS22262 (Member # 2681) on :
 
I see we are at a huge impass here. For clarity, I would NEVER condone sex with a minor EVER! Having said that, in my real, loving, normal world, I have seen plenty of children giving their moms, sisters, and even dad's foot rubs, right out in the open! OH MY GOD! No I don't live in a fantasy world or a trailor park, or in Never Land, it is just not that crazy, sorry buddy! Now I fully understand that to a fetishist, a foot is a sexual object, and that is where this does become complicated, as her shoes have become sexualized. Do you and your wife lock your shoes up in a safe? NO, WHY NOT, LEAVING THEM OUT AND EXPOSED is encouraging sex with a minor, or sex out in the open, is it not! Do you let the female in your life where sandals or flip flops? They can be tormenting minors with their feet, those feet should be covered! This starts to get a little foolish, and that is my point here! If she makes no big deal about the foot massage, then IT DOESN'T BECOME A BIG DEAL, IT BECOMES SOMETHING LESS SINISTER, LESS EVIL, LESS REPRESIVE, LESS SEXUAL! IT becomes something more normal, then hiding in a bathroom wacking off with a shoe in your face! TOO MANY OF US HAVE THIS WARPED IDEA THAT TOUCHING A FOOT IS TOO SEXUAL, so we sneak around like PERVERTS, stealing shoes, hiding, sneaking on the internet, behaviors born out of the idea that touching a foot is some forbidden fruit, so instead, all this represion, many here act out in secret!!! If he is shown more normal behaviors sooner- LIKE A FOOT MASSAGE!!! HE WON'T BECOME A HIDING WACKING OFF SHOE SNIFFER IN THE DARK! GET OUT OF THE DARK AND INTO THE LIGHT! LEARN RESPECT, VALUES, BOUNDARIES AT 12, AND HAVE A LOVING, COMMUNICATIVE SEX LIFE IN YOUR FUTURE, HIS FUTURE!!!
 

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Posted by footjoyboy (Member # 26478) on :
 
True or not, it is an interesting and well written story and could very easily happen in real life.

Suggestions:

Pick up your shoes (as already suggested) and lock the door to your room or closet.
When the kid is around, wear lace up tennis shoes and keep them on.
Don't speak to his mom or anyone else about it, he'll soon lose interest in your tennis shoe clad feet and probably start showing up less. (your feet are probably the reason he's there so much now)

Case closed.
 

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Posted by nusuth (Member # 7372) on :
 
wow.. not even close to addressing what i said. i never said that feet should never be exposed as to 'protect' underage boys. i am saying he should not be allowed to engage in a sexual act with an adult. no matter how 'normal' it becomes, it is still has sexual connotations. trust me.. my wife's feet are pretty much always there for whatever i ask of her. touching them, massaging them, etc has become 'normal', but does it lessen the sexual arousal i receive from her feet? heeeeeell no!! yes, to the mom, a foot massage isnt a big deal.. but to the 12YO, it will be. he will be getting off sexually as he is touching her feet, do you deny that? no adult should encourage a child to engage them in a sexually charged situation. period. you can dance and twist and play all kinds of games with your words, but a sexual act with a minor is a sexual act with a minor, regardless if she is being sexually gratified.

what is foolish is that you think that he needs to touch her feet to make him feel comfortable with his fetish and himself. when young boys stare at women in tight shirts and bikinis, should we tell the women to let the boys touch their breasts so they dont have to feel ashamed at being obsessed with tits? maybe a more mature option would be to talk to boys and tell them that yes, boobs are wondeful and fun and boy, are you gonna love it when you get to touch them, but in the meantime, you need to be respectful of women and realize that you need to rein in your impulses and know your boundaries. hey.. whatta ya know.. that kind of talk would be perfect in this situation!

use some common sense.
 

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Posted by ROYALS22262 (Member # 2681) on :
 
maybe a more mature option would be to talk to boys and tell them that yes, boobs are wondeful and fun and boy, are you gonna love it when you get to touch them, but in the meantime, you need to be respectful of women and realize that you need to rein in your impulses and know your boundaries. hey.. whatta ya know.. that kind of talk would be perfect in this situation!
I AGREE WITH THIS PART OF YOUR STATEMENT 100%! I do not agree, however, with you thinking me foolish for my idea of the quick foot massage, and I see we will never agree there. I am looking for a real long term solution, to get this very young impressionable boy to understand what is the difference between incorporating feet into sex, one day, not now, in a healthy, loving way, with respect, trust, cooperation and boundaries, versus becoming an ashamed sneaky represed shoe smeller hiding in the dark. She can play a small but meaningful part in his development with the honest, straight foward conversation, and let him get some small enjoyment as well. It can be a huge learning experience for him, and eye openning, life changing as well!
 

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Posted by nusuth (Member # 7372) on :
 
and yet once again you fail address the fact that this boy is a minor. maybe thats because you know that your advice is waaaaaaay off base.

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I am looking for a real long term solution, to get this very young impressionable boy to understand what is the difference between incorporating feet into sex, one day, not now, in a healthy, loving way, with respect, trust, cooperation and boundaries, versus becoming an ashamed sneaky represed shoe smeller hiding in the dark.

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I am looking for a real long term solution, to get this very young impressionable boy to understand what is the difference between incorporating feet into sex, one day, not now, in a healthy, loving way, with respect, trust, cooperation and boundaries,

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Dude....Seriously? HE'S 12...
 

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Posted by ROYALS22262 (Member # 2681) on :
 
WOW! Maybe it is because I am in NEW YORK, or something, I don't get it! In today's world folks girls are having babbies at 13!!!! I am not saying that is right, I DON'T AGREE WITH THAT, BUT THAT'S THE FACTS! KIDS ARE GROWING UP VERY, VERY, VERY FAST IN TODAY'S WORLD! You got the internet, media everywhere, TV, magazines, books, where are you guys? You need to talk about protection, sex, fetishes, all of that, with the 12 year olds of today! YES YOU DO! SMART CHOICES, UNDERSTANDING THE FACTS OF LIFE,NOT GETTING PREGNANT, OR GETTING THE GIRL PREGNANT, COMES WITH SEX EDUCATION....AT 12 YEARS OLD!!!! INFORMATION, not secracy, hush hush prudishness, this phoney moral majority b.s., get with it!, I THINK THE ADULTS HAVE TO GROW UP HERE NOT THE KIDS!!!!!
 

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Posted by Andy-Laa (Member # 31511) on :
 
Royals, just take a step back and have a breather here, mate. It'd be a shame to have this topic closed because the debate got a bit too heated in here: it's a really interesting one.

I'll try and put what (I'm fairly sure) nutsth is saying a little more lightly:

When you say massaging a foot should be as non-sexual as shaking hands, the immediate alarm bells that ring in the head of him (and me if I'm honest) is the fact that to a fetishist, that can never happen. Feet are sexual. There's no "sexualisation" period as you put it...you're just aroused by feet whether you have touched a pair or not.

The second point that leads on from this is the fact you are basically saying he should be allowed free-reign to, not only be aroused, but be encouraged by a woman literally 3 times his age for going about secretly and stealing her shoes.

There is NO WAY he will NOT be aroused by caressing a foot. He's a fetishist and that's just wired in him as it is you and me. Can you honestly say you wouldn't get aroused by giving a foot massage to a lady you are infactuated with? Particularly at that age, when every attraction is a "true love"?

Feet = hard on. Whatever the context (exceptions obviously being - hopefully - unattractive/ too old/ too young/family feet - but this can be applied to any other sexual organ for a non-fetishist). IE, if feet are sexual organs to the 12 year old kid, you do NOT let him rub the feet of a 39 year old woman. It is a form of arousal.

NOW, I can on some level agree with the making him ashamed of his fetish, but if he's encouraged in his fetish IN THIS WAY - (I cannot stress those three words enough) - then he will basically feel like he's been rewarded for stealing his friend's mum's shoes and masturbating to their scent. That's why some parents spank their kids to teach them right from wrong.

Just to quickly address your point about my saying the use of scare-tactics may be applicable: it's not the fetish that he'll be ashamed of; it's the stealing, the non-consent, the clandestine way in which he goes about his sexual gratification. And, you must agree, rightly so. Aside from any moral reprimands, it is actually illegal.

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Posted by ROYALS22262 (Member # 2681) on :
 
Andy, I agree with you and do not condone the taking of this woman's shoes. That is what I have the problem with, his violation of her and her property. I am 100% against that. The fundamental disagreement that you have with me, is that you believe that he will not be able to controll himself if he contacted her foot. He would act like a freak, have a hard-on make wild noises, rub himself off, and lose all control. My feeling is, that by being presented with this forbidden fruit, this object of devotion and lust, he can be re-trained and forced to control himself! This object of secret ejaculation, now real and presented to him, will in some very real ways, allow him to grow up, and not imagine what this would be like, but now experiencing it a little, might allow him to come back to earth! Yes, he may get a little excited, but he will be forced to controll his urges, and learn discipline, respect, boundaries, and everything I have been trying to explain. You confront this fetish as if it were a fear, a fear of the unknown, and you confront it head on, or maybe foot on! My argument of 12 year olds being more grown up in today's world, then maybe this board is comfortable with, is probably my strongest point, and with thought, probably hard to argue with. I said in my very first post, my idea of the massage will be confrontational, or not the norm, I understood that then, and I understand that now, and I see how easily it may be to disagree with it, but I still think I am right!
 

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Posted by A&F_FootDude_05 (Member # 2999) on :
 
Guys be careful, please. This thread is starting to get out of hand.
 

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Posted by jamaicanfeet (Member # 16678) on :
 
ROYALS....Suppose this young lady called you about this happening between her and YOUR 12 year old son....would you tell her to let him give her a foot massage and try "re-train" him?
 

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Posted by feetluvr (Member # 1570) on :
 
Sorry, but I'm going to avoid the debate about this being genuine and assume that it is. Yes, the story was titillating maybe to a point of suspicion, especially to someone like me who's borrowed or stolen women's shoes (new and used) before- but not until I was in my 20's. But then again women are good at sharing details...

JV- first off I deeply appreciate your concern for the young man and not wanting to "scar" him for life. There is no question though that this type of behavior is not acceptable and should be dealt with.

How you do it of course is the huge challenge. While I believe that a level-headed direct discussion is probably the best way to deal with_ I know how difficult that would be. Not sure I could do that myself. Consequently I'd probably opt for one of the indirect scare tactics- knocking on the bathroom door, making a comment about your shoes being missing- or leaving a note in your shoes for him to find. (Just be sure that no one else finds it!)

Putting myself in his shoes I think that would be the least embarrasing route yet still get your point across.

Hope that helps and some of us would be genuinely interested in hearing about how this turns out.

[ November 11, 2009, 03:15 PM: Message edited by: feetluvr ]
 

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Posted by nusuth (Member # 7372) on :
 
thank you jamaicanfeet and andy, i was hoping someone else would step up and try and get it thru his head that no matter what his intention.. and btw, ROYALS, i do understand and i do agree that it would be better if he wasnt ashamed of his fetish.. that having him play with her feet IS a sex act to him. i dont understand why ROYALS insists that he touching her feet would not be sexual. i mean isnt that reason for this board.. that all of us view feet as objects of sexual gratification? no one claimed he was gonna get out of control and moan or rub one out, i have no idea where that idea came from. thats a moot point.. but i cant keep stressing the same point enough. its a sexual act with a minor.. who cares what his reaction will be.

ROYALS, location has nothing to do with it either. i'm in connecticut which is just as liberal. i actually brought this thread up to my wife and she was appalled at your suggestion. she isnt a fetishist and still gets that you dont expose a minor such a sexually charged situation. she too suggested that a talk is all that is necessary. you cant blame this on our society and how kids grow up so quickly either. thats an excuse not a reason. you're looking at this from the viewpoint of a grown man. think about how you feel when you read about a 15YO banging his hot 24YO teacher. we all know we think, 'oh yeah.. man, i wish i could've scored with ms. XXXXX when i was in HS' but step back and think how this is going to affect him emotionally. he is not an adult, he doesnt think like an adult, he doesnt reason nor have emotional maturity to handle an adult situation. there is a reason why society protects underage kids from sex with adults. this is the same situation.
 

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Posted by GQguy (Member # 16534) on :
 
After reading some of these post I understand the whole "creepy" stigma that foot fetishist get. I can tell some(not most) don't interact with the real world.

Arguing with those individuals is a waste. Don't bother.

GQ
 

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Posted by joebond (Member # 11049) on :
 

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Originally posted by GQguy:
After reading some of these post I understand the whole "creepy" stigma that foot fetishist get. I can tell some(not most) don't interact with the real world.

Arguing with those individuals is a waste. Don't bother.

GQ

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Posted by catsman (Member # 10269) on :
 
Ok, I've read the entire thread so far. Fake or not, here's my 'advice'. Make no big deal about it, the kids 12 for God's sake. Just have mom be a bit more careful where she puts her shoes. This kid does need some boundary's though, and how to make that clear to him is a bit 'out of my pay grade'.
Mom, when he's around, cover up those gorgeous tootsies of yours. If you know he is titalated by them and you have them showing all the time, then you are not helping the problem at all.
 

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Posted by ROYALS22262 (Member # 2681) on :
 
Nusuth, I honestly respect your viewpoint, and you articulate it with great intelligence, and I am not being facetious or an ass here, I am being truthful. I know what you suggest is the most logical approach, and society as a whole would more likely agree with you, as is demonstrated by this boards reaction. Why am I pushing the envelope here then? Two reasons, the first being, I think it makes this post more interesting and it furthers debate and discussion. The second and best reason, I WAS 11 YEARS OLD AND THIS HAPPENED TO ME!!!! I WAS THIS KID- NO JOKE, NO LIE! TALKING TO ME DID NOT WORK!!! WHAT WORKED, My friend BRUCE'S MOTHER LET ME MASSAGE HER FEET FOR TEN MINUTES WHEN WE WERE ALONE! That experience, helped me, and I thank it to this day! I LEARNED THAT I WAS ACTING SNEAKY, BECAUSE I WAS ASHAMED AND EMBARRASSED ABOUT WHAT I LIKED! She showed me that it was OK to touch a foot, to like a foot, that it was beautiful like the rest of a woman's body! WHAT HAPPENED? I STOPPED HIDING IN THE BATHROOM JACKING OFF, and I looked to get girlfriends so I could rub their feet!!! I started acting more mature, and I felt less ashamed and embarrassed. My focus was now on other girls, NOT BRUCE'S MOM AND HER FEET!!! IT WORKED FOR ME...IT WAS 1 MASSAGE, AND THAT WAS IT...AND I WAS 11 YEARS OLD!!! SO, my advice comes from a REAL PLACE, and REAL EXPERIENCE! Yes it was exciting to me, BUT I LEARNED, AND GREW UP, I STILL LOVE FEET, BUT I CARE FOR AND RESPECT WOMEN 1000%!!!!! MAYBE I AM NOT SOOOO CRAZY TO YOU NOW! I HOPE YOU BELIEVE ME, THIS IS AN ABSOLUTELY TRUE EXPERIENCE OF MINE!!!!
 

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Posted by Fate111 (Member # 2627) on :
 
Fact or fiction aside, this does raise a big dilemma and, after reading all the posts, I have to respectfully disagree with Royals.

Royals, while you say that women play with children with their feet all the time and that it's okay because there's nothing sexual about it. You're right. However, in this circumstance, I think you're missing the point here. In general, your statement is true. However, in this situation and to this particular 12 year old boy, it is very sexual to see his friend's mom's feet and, by all accounts, the mom is aware of what's going on and she knows that it is sexual to him. As such, it would be wrong for her to encourage him in any way, shape or form to continue this kind of behavior because it's entirely inappropriate.

Royals, I know you made mention of taking things to extreme and saying all women should cover up their feet then, if this is so wrong. While I think most people agree that, yes, it would be ridiculous for all women to do that, it still doesn't make your stance on this any better, in my opinion. Is it possible that women go out in public baring their feet in revealing footwear and there are young boys who get turned on by it? Sure. However, that's out of the control of the individuals involved and, odds are, a one time circumstance. For example, a young boy sees a woman in sexy, revealing shoes showing off her feet while she's out shopping. This is a random sighting, much like when some of us guys go out and happen to see a woman's feet in these exact same circumstances. That's fine because there was no intent to run into the boy and turn him on. However, in a situation like this when the woman knows her feet are turning this boy on and it's an ongoing thing, it's wrong to encourage him by letting him give her a foot massage, in my opinion. It's not appropriate because she has the knowledge that her feet turn this 12 year old boy on. With that knowledge she can control the situation, to some degree, by not revealing her feet, putting her shoes away where they're not easily accessible, etc.. The other alternative would be making her feet accessible to him via a foot massage. In my opinion, that's not appropriate because the mom knows her feet are turning him on.

In my opinion, this is all about knowledge of the situation and intent. In this situation, the mom knows what's going on and, as an adult, she should use adult judgment, which says (at least the last time I checked) adults shouldn't encourage any type of sexual behavior when it comes to minors, especially when they know a certain behavior is a turn on to the minor in question. You can call it whatever you want - i.e. "making the boy comfortable", "indoctrination to his sexual feelings", etc., it still doesn't change what it is at its core, and that is, inappropriate behavior between an adult and a minor, since the adult knows this is a sexual thing for the minor .

While I do feel for the boy in this situation because I've once been where he is and have felt the sexual feelings stir when looking at women's feet at that age, he shouldn't be doing what he's doing and the mom should nip this in the bud. I think RPM's advice has been the best so far - i.e. the woman should let the boy know that she knows what's going on and tell him that, while he isn't alone with what he feels, it's not cool to capitalize on it in these set of circumstances by "borrowing" her shoes when he's over at her house and possibly taking pics of her and her feet via cell phone. It's not good for the boy to be doing those kind of things, in general. Deep down, the boy himself knows this isn't cool either, since he has been so secretive about it. It still wouldn't be cool if it was some other female garment he was getting off to or another part of her body he was trying to get on camera (i.e. getting off to a pair of panties or a bra or trying to secretly get pics of her breasts when she was unaware). It doesn't matter that women's feet, among the majority of society, aren't considered to be sexual. The bottom line is that they are sexual to this 12 year old boy in this particular scenario.

I think what RPM said about the mom saying something to the boy when they are alone in a calm, but effective, way will be enough to bring him back to his senses, as well as teach him what's appropriate and what isn't when it comes to his behavior towards women and their feet now and in the future. Yeah, it's okay for a male to like women's feet. However, there are boundaries that should be put in place and respected as to how that behavior is acted out.
 

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Posted by ROYALS22262 (Member # 2681) on :
 
FATE 111, Though I disagree with you for my reasons stated above, I must again honestly say that I come to this board and post and share ideas here, because of thoughtful, intelligent well stated responses such as yours and NSUTH. I can agree to disagree, but it is the debate, and the process that makes us all think. There is usually a middle or common ground that could be found. I don't think people thinking the same, acting the same, fitting in, is neccessarily the best course. Sometimes what seems ridiculous or silly at first, may look or appear differently later. Physical and emotional development in a fast moving ever changing world, is a movement in progress. What is crazy sounding now, may become more accepted in time. ILLEGALITY, is never acceptable. We, however, must evolve with the times, not look to ridicule, and maybe try to find reasonableness and compromise, and seak what truly works, not just now, but long term.
 

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Posted by 2nd. To God In Power (Member # 23391) on :
 
LOL JustVisiting, pics of how pretty your feet & toes are or the whole thing never happened.

I already knew the story was bullshit when you said you deleted your cookies. LOL WHY would you need to "cover your tracks"? Who are you trying to hide from, your husband? LOL
 

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Posted by A&F_FootDude_05 (Member # 2999) on :
 
^ *LIKE*
 

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Posted by Toe Sucker II (Member # 1720) on :
 
Sit timmy down. Tell him what you know. Reassure him. Tell him it won't go any further and just to be more discreet with taking your shoes.

There is nothing wrong with what he's doing. I did the same and I still do the same. Routing through mums friends dirty laundry. I'm hooked.

Just tell him you know and not to make it obvious or for you to see. Please don't tell him to stop. It will make foot fetishism feel pervert like (which most of us think).
 

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Posted by jamaicanfeet (Member # 16678) on :
 
If he was taking her worn panties and taking them in the bathroom to jack off....would u still sit him down and tell him to be more discreet when taking ur panties to go jack off?
 

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Posted by Toe Sucker II (Member # 1720) on :
 
Jamican. It's the same thing. It's what people do.

It's not right...... but it's reality.
 

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Posted by Drunk_24-7 (Member # 21781) on :
 
Real or not some good discussion on what could be a real situation out there which makes it sort of irrelevant to me wether the poster is real or not and there was some good advice shared in here dispite some skeptisism which if the poster is real, should provide some good insight from the perspective of the foot fetishist on how to handle the situation. I too agree with Andy Laa. I think the best fix is to catch him, but let him off the hook which should scare him out of doing what he's doing which is the main issue. Leave the shoes and then come back looking for them when he's in possession of em. Give him a chance to return em but be kinda pissed they were lost and he'll probably thank his lucky stars he got away with it one last time and leave your shoes alone going forward.

The only downside to that as someone else mentioned is that it could cause him to repress things further and become more ashamed of his foot fetish and perhaps more deviant down the line when he looks to explore it. First off, I would say, that's not "Just Visiting"'s problem. She could confront him, embaress him, tell his parents and really make a much more traumatic issue of this ordeal than is really necessary. I don't think she should do that, but she shouldn't have to have to worry about where she leaves her shoes or what's being done to them by a minor no less, in her own home. That's a more awkward situation than any woman should have to deal with. It's fine and fun and a relatively harmless part of puberty and growing up for the boy that's fine as long as "you" don't know it's going on. The moment you found out, it becomes awkward and should stop as soon as possible. I think the scare tactics are a more compassionate to his situation way to go about it as opposed to an embarassing and humilating confrontation. He'll hold on to the memories, be thankful for his get out of jail free card, and hopefully be more responsible, or at the very least more careful not to get caught in the future.

If you really wanna do him a great service and are a bit intreigued by the whole foot fetish scene. After the scare tactics, in a totally different setting, if you use a computer in like a family room where he and your son may also be hanging out, you could "accidentally" click on a link to one of those stories in the news about foot fetish creeps caught stealing shoes or whatever that are always in the news and just make some sort of disgusted remark that they will question what you're reading and just explain that people are so crazy and creepy, and question their motives with a line like "Why would someone try and steal a total strangers shoes...these days everyone is liberated and unique enough to express themselves and engage in consensual matters with like minded individuals...this idiot could have just found himself a girlfriend who probably would have adored every free foot massage he could give her and instead now he's gonna go to jail and be embarassed and teased and looked down upon by his friends and all of society for acting like such a wierdo...stupid people."....and then click onto the next story...That way the conversation is had without putting him in the awkward situation but the message is clear in how to handle the situation...he'll probably wonder if it was coincidence that he got away with the shoe thing, and then you discovered the foot article and reacted so calmly, cooly and openly about it and wonder if you actually knew about his foot thing all along, but he probably won't question it, and hopefully will take it for what it's worth...a get out of jail free card and some good advice that he'll hopefully choose to make the most of...For him it'd end up sort of like this thread is for us, is it real...is it not? Did you know all along, or was that like the wildest coincidence ever? ...and like this thread, for him it really shouldn't matter. The fact he avoided the embarassment and trouble you could have caused will likely scare him into leaving your shoes alone and the discussion on the foot perv in the news should curb him from taking unsolicited pics while putting a positive spin on how there's nothing wrong with having a foot fetish, as long as it's handled in a confident, respectful and consenting manner as opposed to being dishonest, sneaky and creepy about it.
 

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Posted by jamaicanfeet (Member # 16678) on :
 

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Jamican. It's the same thing. It's what people do.

It's not right...... but it's reality.

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Jamican. It's the same thing. It's what people do.

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Jamican. It's the same thing. It's what people do.

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what? seriously? thats your logic in this? other people do it so why not let anyone do it?

i went to school with a kid that was convicted of murdering his aunt and 2 kid nieces about 10 yrs ago. he did so i guess i could do it too. i mean other people did it, so why shouldnt i?

or as your mother probably said to you.. if your friends jumped off a bridge, would do it too? and if she didnt say it, maybe she should have. i cant believe i really have even say something like this. just because someone else does it, doesnt make it right. wtf people. nice way to justify your own selfish decisions.

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Agreed. Justifying bad behavior with other bad behavior to make it more acceptable doesn't cut it.
 

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Posted by feethost (Member # 37210) on :
 
wow thats crazy...I remember having a foot fetish since i was about 4 always playing with all the ladys feet that my parents would have over....thats when you could do it and it was totally innocent lol
 

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Posted by Toe Sucker II (Member # 1720) on :
 
this it isn't bad behaviour.

It's natural behaviour. We all do it.
 

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Posted by A&F_FootDude_05 (Member # 2999) on :
 
crazy how this thread has gotten so massive
 

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Posted by Andy-Laa (Member # 31511) on :
 
It's a really interesting topic and a bit of a miracle that people with contrasting opinions have managed not to like...e-kill each other...

*Applauds thine maturity *
 

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Posted by chefflash (Member # 36219) on :
 
I had a thing for my teachers feet
 

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Posted by joe (Member # 981) on :
 
Toe sucker, you have got the worst possible advice ever. You dont think its wrong what this kid is doing? If its not wrong then why tell him to be more discreet about it? why not just give him all the shoes to jerk off to. You're still doing these things? You dont think its wrong going through the dirty laundy of your friend's mom? It's things like this that give us a bad rep. Royals, I also disagree with letting him massage the feet even though it worked for you. Like someone already mentioned, it's like rewarding the boy for his bad behaviour. And dont you think the mother will feel guilty for doing this and keeping it secretive?
 

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Posted by chefflash (Member # 36219) on :
 
I want to see your feet to judge for my self .Ifyou are into it .Let me know PLEASE
 

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Posted by chefflash (Member # 36219) on :
 
It is a trick topic because he is younge.He likes your feet or I should say Loves your feet.You should confront him and let him know how you feel.
 

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