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Posted by blackHxC88 (Member # 15094) on :
 
i'm doing summer school, and i think i befriended this girl living in the dorm i'm staying in. "think" because she's a bit of a pothead and idk if it was the pot talking when she actually responded to me saying "Hi" to her. anyway, she has a BF and all of that, but she "agreed" (the pot again, i think) to hang out later. the thing is she has nice, tiny feet. i couldn't stop sneaking peeks whenever i was talking to her while walking. so, idk where i'm going with this, but what to do???
 
Posted by GQguy (Member # 16534) on :
 
Haven't seen you on here in awhile! Glad to see you're doing ok.

What to do? Hang out with her! Funny thing I learned recently...I used to focus on game and attraction and all of that for the longest time. I had pretty decent success. Lately and this might sound lame but my seducing skills have laid back. I don't try anymore. I'm normal. This has been HUGE. No trying to impress a girl or anything. Just having confidence and letting her discover the impressive details herself. D

So be normal. Don't leer. Don't talk about yourself too much(hence the mystery women talk about), don't brag. Do tal about current events so she gets a gauge on what you value. Talk about relationships. Hell just be her friend. You'll gain skills in talking to more women this way. It's funny how women will react though when you put them in the friend zone first! You can even talk to her about your foot fetish, but that has to be done in a funny light hearted way.
 
Posted by mclaren f1 2003 (Member # 2934) on :
 
WHAT!?!?!?!?! GQguy isn's really focusing on game anymore? [Thud]

you ok bro? lol

but yeah, blackHxC88, just focus on getting to know her first, put her in the friend zone haha

GQguy is right, the more you do this to women, the easier is becomes to talk to them, that is why most of my female friends know about my thing for feet
 
Posted by longhitter04 (Member # 2391) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by blackHxC88:
...idk if it was the pot talking when she actually responded to me saying "Hi" to her.

quote:
Originally posted by blackHxC88:
...but she "agreed" (the pot again, i think) to hang out later.

You really need to gain some confidence. Is it really that unbelievable that a (sober) girl would agree to hang out with you?

How do you know she isn't telling her friends how excited she is that you want to hang out with her?
 
Posted by Flip flop fan (Member # 9565) on :
 
Pot does not affect the judgement like alcohol, it mainly affects the appetite. [Wink]
 
Posted by blackHxC88 (Member # 15094) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by longhitter04:
quote:
Originally posted by blackHxC88:
...idk if it was the pot talking when she actually responded to me saying "Hi" to her.

quote:
Originally posted by blackHxC88:
...but she "agreed" (the pot again, i think) to hang out later.

You really need to gain some confidence. Is it really that unbelievable that a (sober) girl would agree to hang out with you?

yes, yes it is. hence why i posted and asked that question. plus, i think i freaked her out anyway. she doesn't have a cell and only has a myspace. sent her a friend request a few days ago and it's not been accepted yet. so i think it was over before it started =\

[ June 03, 2010, 05:47 PM: Message edited by: blackHxC88 ]
 
Posted by ozkar (Member # 13264) on :
 
Stop analyzing. Keep hanging out with her.

Life is best handled one circumstance at a time. If you spend all of your time trying to predict all of the possible outcomes then you will simply never start living at all.
 
Posted by blackHxC88 (Member # 15094) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ozkar:
Stop analyzing. Keep hanging out with her.

we haven't hung out yet [Confused]
 
Posted by ozkar (Member # 13264) on :
 
ummm... ok... then:

step a) hang out with her for a "first time"
step b) proceed with last instructions starting with "keep hanging out with her"...
 
Posted by blackHxC88 (Member # 15094) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ozkar:
ummm... ok... then:

step a) hang out with her for a "first time"
step b) proceed with last instructions starting with "keep hanging out with her"...

umm...you didn't read what i said above that. we won't be hanging out because i freaked her out. so there is no "first time" and no "keeping hanging out" going on [Confused]
 
Posted by Augustine (Member # 34045) on :
 
She doesn't have a cell phone? What girl doesn't have one? Something doesn't seem right.
 
Posted by blackHxC88 (Member # 15094) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Augustine:
She doesn't have a cell phone? What girl doesn't have one? Something doesn't seem right.

exactly. idk, i didn't think much of it. she hasn't accepted my myspace request either, so i'm just assuming as much.
 
Posted by ozkar (Member # 13264) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by blackHxC88:
quote:
Originally posted by ozkar:
ummm... ok... then:

step a) hang out with her for a "first time"
step b) proceed with last instructions starting with "keep hanging out with her"...

umm...you didn't read what i said above that. we won't be hanging out because i freaked her out. so there is no "first time" and no "keeping hanging out" going on [Confused]
Oh I didn't get that part initially, so I'd say you aren't really obligated to do anything then.
 
Posted by oneagain (Member # 35859) on :
 
I'd agree with just hanging out...don't try anything.

Reason I mention that is she might be being 'nice' in offering to hang out and with a BF, she might not want anything else.

I have had a few occasions when women had gone out of their way to want to hang out with me...then when I started to get more frendly, that was when the, "I only wanted to hang out with you"

...that sucked

but then again...if she is a pothead...she might be interested in having 'more experiences'...you might end up with more then just feet to play with [Wink]

Roll one with 'er and see what happens...
 
Posted by blackHxC88 (Member # 15094) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by oneagain:
I'd agree with just hanging out...don't try anything.

Reason I mention that is she might be being 'nice' in offering to hang out and with a BF, she might not want anything else.

I have had a few occasions when women had gone out of their way to want to hang out with me...then when I started to get more frendly, that was when the, "I only wanted to hang out with you"

...that sucked

but then again...if she is a pothead...she might be interested in having 'more experiences'...you might end up with more then just feet to play with [Wink]

Roll one with 'er and see what happens...

i don't smoke at all, period! but like i said earlier, it's already ruined so it doesn't matter

[ June 03, 2010, 10:32 PM: Message edited by: blackHxC88 ]
 
Posted by ozkar (Member # 13264) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by blackHxC88:
quote:
Originally posted by oneagain:
I'd agree with just hanging out...don't try anything.

Reason I mention that is she might be being 'nice' in offering to hang out and with a BF, she might not want anything else.

I have had a few occasions when women had gone out of their way to want to hang out with me...then when I started to get more frendly, that was when the, "I only wanted to hang out with you"

...that sucked

but then again...if she is a pothead...she might be interested in having 'more experiences'...you might end up with more then just feet to play with [Wink]

Roll one with 'er and see what happens...

i don't smoke at all, period! i was just worried that idk if it would be rude to offer a foot massage "as friends" (if that makes sense) idk, it's already fucked
If I am understanding you correctly, my intuition is that if you expect you will not hang out with her, you freaked her out, she told you she didn't have a cell phone (probably a lie) and won't accept you on myspace that you will not have to worry about anything getting to the point where you will be massaging her feet.

I would focus your energies on a different girl perhaps.
 
Posted by blackHxC88 (Member # 15094) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ozkar:
quote:
Originally posted by blackHxC88:
quote:
Originally posted by oneagain:
I'd agree with just hanging out...don't try anything.

Reason I mention that is she might be being 'nice' in offering to hang out and with a BF, she might not want anything else.

I have had a few occasions when women had gone out of their way to want to hang out with me...then when I started to get more frendly, that was when the, "I only wanted to hang out with you"

...that sucked

but then again...if she is a pothead...she might be interested in having 'more experiences'...you might end up with more then just feet to play with [Wink]

Roll one with 'er and see what happens...

i don't smoke at all, period! i was just worried that idk if it would be rude to offer a foot massage "as friends" (if that makes sense) idk, it's already fucked
If I am understanding you correctly, my intuition is that if you expect you will not hang out with her, you freaked her out, she told you she didn't have a cell phone (probably a lie) and won't accept you on myspace that you will not have to worry about anything getting to the point where you will be massaging her feet.

I would focus your energies on a different girl perhaps.

no other girls anyway, was a mistake saying anything to her
 
Posted by wvcple2003 (Member # 5268) on :
 
Roofie Coladas always worked for me! But to each his own!
 
Posted by blackHxC88 (Member # 15094) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by wvcple2003:
Roofie Coladas always worked for me! But to each his own!

[Confused]
 
Posted by longhitter04 (Member # 2391) on :
 
You said you freaked her out. Am I missing something? I haven't read anything in your posts about you doing something that may have freaked her out.

From what I read, all you did was say "Hi", ask to hang out, and request her as a friend on facebook. None of this sounds like anything that would freak her out.

Sorry to be so bold here, but I gotta say it. Grow some balls and go talk to her again. Show some confidence. Think of it as jumping in a pool of cold water. Don't think about... just close your eyes and jump in. I'm sure you'll be amazed at the results.

And what is the worst she can say or do? Unless she is a complete bitch (and it doesn't sound like she is) the worst she'll say is "No, thanks." Right? No big deal.
 
Posted by blackHxC88 (Member # 15094) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by longhitter04:
go talk to her again.

no need because she denied the friend request
 
Posted by longhitter04 (Member # 2391) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by blackHxC88:
no need because she denied the friend request

So what? You are giving up way too easy.

I don't want to sound brash here, but if you maintain this attitude you'll never get anywhere... in life or with girls. If you want something, go out and get it. You're life will be full of regrets if you don't at least give it a good try. I don't mean to sound like an inspirational guru, but it's true. Just go out and take it (within reason, of course).
 
Posted by blackHxC88 (Member # 15094) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by longhitter04:
quote:
Originally posted by blackHxC88:
no need because she denied the friend request

So what?
so what? it means she doesn't wanna chat or hang out. if you're implying i stalk her, then fuck that
 
Posted by Sinnister (Member # 2394) on :
 
Holy F man.

She wasn't worth it anyways. Plenty of others left..
 
Posted by longhitter04 (Member # 2391) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by blackHxC88:
if you're implying i stalk her, then fuck that

Unbelievable... talking to this guy is like clapping with one hand.

You remind me of that cartoon character that used to walk around saying.... "Doomed, We're all doomed".
 
Posted by blackHxC88 (Member # 15094) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by longhitter04:
quote:
Originally posted by blackHxC88:
if you're implying i stalk her, then fuck that

Unbelievable...
yeah, i find it unbelievable too you would imply i should start stalking girls if i say hi to them and they reject me.
 
Posted by ozkar (Member # 13264) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by longhitter04:
quote:
Originally posted by blackHxC88:
if you're implying i stalk her, then fuck that

Unbelievable... talking to this guy is like clapping with one hand.

You remind me of that cartoon character that used to walk around saying.... "Doomed, We're all doomed".

While it is not at all strange for a person to seek reassurance, it is a bit strange for one to seek negative reassurance...
 
Posted by blackHxC88 (Member # 15094) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ozkar:
quote:
Originally posted by longhitter04:
quote:
Originally posted by blackHxC88:
if you're implying i stalk her, then fuck that

Unbelievable... talking to this guy is like clapping with one hand.

You remind me of that cartoon character that used to walk around saying.... "Doomed, We're all doomed".

While it is not at all strange for a person to seek reassurance, it is a bit strange for one to seek negative reassurance...
o.O
 
Posted by oneagain (Member # 35859) on :
 
Hey blackHxC88,

All this social networking stuff is a bit silly to me...but perhaps she rethought things through and is concerned about either misleading you, or perhaps hurting her BF...or both.

If the freind request was shot down, so be it.

Not sure if you ever would see her in real life in a normal function or not...but if you don't routinly see her doing something normal, I'd cut my loses and focus elsewhere.

If she isn't interested, she isn't interested...the more you try to force, the more she might resent it.

I'd just play it cool and pretend the friend request didn't happen andthe offer to meet hadn't occured as well.

If you see her, be polite and don't show any attitude.
 
Posted by Martial Law (Member # 2564) on :
 
It kinda already sounds a bit like stalking if all she did was say "hi" to you and you're asking for her number and adding her on MySpace...
 
Posted by blackHxC88 (Member # 15094) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Martial Law:
It kinda already sounds a bit like stalking if all she did was say "hi" to you and you're asking for her number and adding her on MySpace...

well, we talked for a bit while i was heading to lunch and asked to hang out. i usually ask that just to keep in contact instead of agreeing to hang out and getting ditched. but yeah, if everyone on the board now thinks i'm a stalker for even pursuing this, then sorry for making the thread.

and besides, not often does a girl actually respond to me saying "Hi", so i might as well ask.
 
Posted by Martial Law (Member # 2564) on :
 
Jeez, no need to be such a Negative Norman! But seriously, women especially pick up on stuff like this as a hit-on attempt; you might see it as just being friendly but to her it's eagerness that only comes from someone interested in something more than friendship.

And TBH if you're set on giving her a foot massage you are after something more, regardless of how you want to play it. That probably comes across to her in your interactions.
 
Posted by blackHxC88 (Member # 15094) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Martial Law:
Jeez, no need to be such a Negative Norman!

well, being called a stalker surely isn't something to be positive about [Confused]
 
Posted by ozkar (Member # 13264) on :
 
I really feel like you are baiting people to rip on you. Intentionally. Like cutting or something except social or emotional instead of physical.
 
Posted by blackHxC88 (Member # 15094) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ozkar:
I really feel like you are baiting people to rip on you.

i didn't bait anyone into anything, so go to hell for that. he's the one who called me a stalker
 
Posted by ozkar (Member # 13264) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by blackHxC88:
quote:
Originally posted by ozkar:
I really feel like you are baiting people to rip on you.

i didn't bait anyone into anything, so go to hell for that. he's the one who called me a stalker
That was worded harshly and I did not supply ample context however I was not speaking in hyperbole.

What I observe historically is that in response to your requests for counsel people give you some good advice, and in earnest, then you immediately refute it. One can not avoid considering the question: If he is going to immediately dismiss anything anyone suggests then why does he even ask in the first place? What is he looking for?

One possibility is that you don't like yourself however you don't believe you alone have the power to become what you want to be. If this is the case, fortunately for you you are mistaken, you can change if you want to. Another likely thing that makes you make sense to me is that you could be an emotional masochist. I'm not making fun of you by saying that, I believe you have the right to be that way if you derive pleasure from it. It is a fascinating concept. Lastly I suppose it is necessary to include the null hypothesis as well, that is that I could just be completely mistaken in all of this crap.

In your case I am not inclined toward the null hypothesis. Superficially your behavior here seems to fit more with the second hypothesis, however I favor the first. I think your immediate refutation of good ideas may stem from a possible perception of this forum as more of a private place than a public place, almost as if this forum was a proxy for your own thoughts. Therefore as quickly as you would be inclined to doubt yourself, you doubt what is said here. That would fit with the pattern I observe.

If this is the case I recommend you work hard to prevent yourself from immediately doubting yourself and to abstain from analyzing every situation you find yourself in from a standpoint which assumes negativity about yourself.

Step one is to stop yourself from going down negative paths of thought about yourself (I don't know what will work for you but there are lots of techniques). Step two is to start actively telling yourself you are "the man" (this step is counter-intuitive but completely necessary). Step three is passively growing to actually believe it (this one happens by itself).

With this new outlook I am certain you will find satisfaction. Your angst will be a distant memory. The ability to do this is innately human so you absolutely can do it. Unless you are some kind of robot. Then you are screwed.
 
Posted by blackHxC88 (Member # 15094) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by ozkar:
quote:
Originally posted by blackHxC88:
quote:
Originally posted by ozkar:
I really feel like you are baiting people to rip on you.

i didn't bait anyone into anything, so go to hell for that. he's the one who called me a stalker
That was worded harshly and I did not supply ample context however I was not speaking in hyperbole.

What I observe historically is that in response to your requests for counsel people give you some good advice, and in earnest, then you immediately refute it. One can not avoid considering the question: If he is going to immediately dismiss anything anyone suggests then why does he even ask in the first place? What is he looking for?

One possibility is that you don't like yourself however you don't believe you alone have the power to become what you want to be. If this is the case, fortunately for you you are mistaken, you can change if you want to. Another likely thing that makes you make sense to me is that you could be an emotional masochist. I'm not making fun of you by saying that, I believe you have the right to be that way if you derive pleasure from it. It is a fascinating concept. Lastly I suppose it is necessary to include the null hypothesis as well, that is that I could just be completely mistaken in all of this crap.

In your case I am not inclined toward the null hypothesis. Superficially your behavior here seems to fit more with the second hypothesis, however I favor the first. I think your immediate refutation of good ideas may stem from a possible perception of this forum as more of a private place than a public place, almost as if this forum was a proxy for your own thoughts. Therefore as quickly as you would be inclined to doubt yourself, you doubt what is said here. That would fit with the pattern I observe.

If this is the case I recommend you work hard to prevent yourself from immediately doubting yourself and to abstain from analyzing every situation you find yourself in from a standpoint which assumes negativity about yourself.

Step one is to stop yourself from going down negative paths of thought about yourself (I don't know what will work for you but there are lots of techniques). Step two is to start actively telling yourself you are "the man" (this step is counter-intuitive but completely necessary). Step three is passively growing to actually believe it (this one happens by itself).

With this new outlook I am certain you will find satisfaction. Your angst will be a distant memory. The ability to do this is innately human so you absolutely can do it. Unless you are some kind of robot. Then you are screwed.

annddd, considering you claimed i was "baiting", what in the blue fuck hell makes you think i'll give a shit about what you just said???
 


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