So I revealed my foot fetish to my wife early on. In the beginning it was cool. She would give me socks she had been wearing for some time that had retained a strong scent, for when she was away, and she would let me have her feet when she was home. Once we got married that all changed.
I know. Sounds cliche.
My wife not only suffers from severe Depression she also suffers from what's called Anhedonia (a clinical diagnosis). She doesn't get any pleasure from, well, anything. Particularly sex (Full disclosure: I suffer from extreme anxiety and Depression as well). As a result she's not interested in sex at all with me most of the time. For a while my fetish seemed to...intrigue her to the point where she would wear socks for a week at a time and then give them to me but personal, physical play dwindled down to nothing. Nothing. And over the years she has taken to wearing these Donald Pliner shoes with rubber insoles that do absolutely NOTHING in regard to producing any kind of scent whatsoever. So even her socks are worthless to me at this point.
The word "Fetish" is tossed around on sites like this without any knowledge of what a true fetish is. While I can get aroused from making out, foreplay and sex I cannot climax unless my fetish comes into play. My wife understands this, she just doesn't seem to care. Hell, she's rarely interested in taking it that far.
So, yeah. I've read Savage Love. I know what most might say. Our relationship is fantastic on every level but the sexual one. I've been with hundreds of women but have never connected with someone as deeply as I have with my wife. But now I'm unsatisfied. I could leave her, I suppose. Simply over feet. But I know I'll spend the rest of my life unfulfilled in most every other way. I love our relationship, but for this one aspect that is eating me from the inside out. It seems petty and selfish for me to even bring it up. But it is what it is. I am unhappy and quickly growing unhappier.
It doesn't help that I've attempted to go online and find outlets to appease my fetish, only to receive product that wasn't as advertised or no response at all. I'm nearly at my wit's end. On the one hand, I have to admit to myself it's just a "silly fetish." On the other hand, I'm not only feeling unhappy, I feel like it's driving me...crazy.
I'm just venting. I don't post much at all because, frankly, most of you people creep me the fuck out. But I'm one of you. And I'm lost at this point. I just don't know what to do. I started feeling sick recently and I was actually hoping it was Cancer or something. I think I've gotten to the point where I'd rather not be alive than have to deal with this shit.
Posted by octoberbaseball (Member # 20977) on :
Seek professional help immediately!
Posted by Rider Aldebaran (Member # 38525) on :
quote:Originally posted by octoberbaseball: Seek professional help immediately!
Yep. I agree.
Posted by Tyler D. (Member # 11452) on :
i see one of two options.
1) see if she's okay with you renting a companion temporarily several times a week to accomodate the fetish aspect of your needs.
or
2) let your wife continue to satisfy the 99% of all your other needs and you can simply fulfill the rest of it by surfing feet smut online and pleasuring yourself in private with your hand.
Both of these options assume that she is unwilling to give your fetish another chance. If that assumption is wrong, then perhaps you can work something out with her. If not, I'd recommend option 1, personally.
Posted by dbacks (Member # 26882) on :
There is help out there, i am sure if you have severe anxiety problems you have asked for help before, take advantage of it, if you love her for who she is don't leave her.
Posted by omega2215 (Member # 37955) on :
Have you tried telling her this? If you have...take some xanax.
Posted by Sol (Member # 2476) on :
It sounds like you haven't even spoken to her, so what the hell are you doing on internet forums?
Go speak to her and save your relationship from imminent meltdown.
Sex is CRITICAL to a good and healthy relationship. If she doesn't want to please you sexually it will never work, simple as. Remind her how much fun you used to have before when she'd get her socks smelly etc., and how excited it would make you. If she had an intrigue back then it shouldn't be that difficult to draw it back out.
If she has no interest in the sexual side of the relationship then maybe you're better off as friends.
Posted by riker25 (Member # 31867) on :
Considering your circumstances, I almost hate to bring this up but you would have probably been better served to leave out the part regarding how many of us on this site CREEP YOU THE FUCK OUT.
We all have varying degrees of what we find appealing and attractive about female feet.
While I personally might not agree with some of the different stuff some of the guys discuss, I would not go so far as to be critical of others.
The negative assessment you might have of us, could easily be applied to yourself in terms of smelling week old socks.
Posted by ROYALS22262 (Member # 2681) on :
Take a deep breath and try to relax. Be thankful for what you have, first and foremost. Look at all the pain and suffering in the world, what others are dealing with and going through. Your situation is far from perfect, but, it is solveable. It starts with honest and open communication. You love and respect each other, now be a team, help each other out. Making her feel better, caring for her, being there for her, listening to her, make her feel sexy, loved and adored, is the start. Be the man. Help and support her, and get her on the right track. Once she feels better about herself, feels loved, worshipped, and beautiful, there is no doubt she will be more available to you! You in turn will get more and more of what you want. The world and life can suck at times, have a us against the world mentality. If you focus more on her than yourself and your needs, become more loving, supportive, caring and sharing, the walls will break down and more will come your way. GIVING IS RECEIVING! Have an open heart, an open mind, and be the best person, and best husband you can be. Make her fall head over heals in love with you again! CREATE THAT SPARK AGAIN! It can be a slow process, but that journey is worth it, and the light at the end of the tunnel is rekindled love and respect, and MUTUAL PLEASURE! It starts with YOU, YOUR ATTITUDE, YOU CONTROL YOUR OWN DESTINY! Don't give up, run away, be a mouse....BE A MAN, AND TAKE CHARGE!!!! YOU CAN DO IT....IF YOU BUILD IT....SHE WILL CUM!!!! YOU WILL BE HAPPIER FOR IT!!!! ACT....DON'T THINK, DON'T SULK, ACT NOW!!!!! GOOD LUCK!!!
Posted by Peter, Peter (Member # 40235) on :
izzitjustme: I would have to agree with what has already been said. Get some form help to open up the dialogue between you and your wife. This can be fixed but not by taking the easy way out, SOME HARD FUCKIG WORK is ahead of you. But you can do it. Stay positive and focus on a goal, I'm sure you'll have your wife back and her feet in not time. Posted by bluetoelover (Member # 14736) on :
Yeah..I was gonna offer advice but when I read that line of how me and everyone else creeps you the fuck out I lost complete sympathy for you.
Perhaps she is having her needs fulfilled on the side?
Posted by octoberbaseball (Member # 20977) on :
I also agree with those against your comment that we creep you the fuck out. It's a foot fetish forum, all of us are here for the same thing. Though we may find pleasure in different ways. Maybe you're just caught up in the moment, but again my best advice would be to seek professional help.
Posted by dbacks (Member # 26882) on :
I think we are good people, not "creeps" i had to add that because i see posts from many good mannered people.
Posted by Fwrinkledsoles (Member # 101) on :
Yes, me too! I think we are very good people. However, a pychiatric's said, "82% of people who has a foot fetishes are nice guys. Just think, I have had a few woman said I was a prevert because I just wanted to play with their feet instead of have sex. I said, damn! Just think, you can't catch a STD's for play with a woman feet. Also, you can't get them pregnant. However, I think if she want to cum while I am playing with her feet. She cam masturbate. But we are creeps. ------------------------------------------ Don't leave but negotiation, with your wife like I did when it cum to other women feet. On the othe hand, I have access to my wife feet 24/7. But, she aloud me to have fun with any woman I choose to play with their feet, foot massages, pedicues, video taping and take picture in which I have hundreds of pictures of other women feet a few large pictures on the walls of our bedroom. But, the point is I knew my love for women feet wasn't going away. Therefore, I talk about how I like women feet before I married her.
[ August 21, 2011, 12:18 AM: Message edited by: Fwrinkledsoles ]
Posted by izzitjustme (Member # 12570) on :
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that everyone here creeps me the fuck out. But a lot do. The point being I've always strived to be the sort of person who recognizes I have specific desires but don't drool in public over them in a licentious manner. Yeah, this is a public forum that caters to the niche desires of a minority, but it's also open to anyone to view (including my wife, who has visited this board numerous times) and I think if you read a lot of the posts from the view of someone who doesn't have a foot fetish it would creep you the fuck out to, if you're actually an honest individual. Personally, I find it humorous when I see posts about how the world "views foot fetishists as freaks," then read the things that are said here. You don't have to be a genius to disseminate why most view us as complete freaks. The evidence is is right before you. And again - my personal opinion - it's doing us all a disservice.
But back to the original post. I have had multiple discussions with my wife. To no avail. I give her foot rubs. I paint her toenails. She seems to like these things. But when it comes to anything else that caters to my fetish she avoids it like the plague. Won't even discuss it. And I just don't get that considering how our relationship started out. She was game in the beginning. Yeah, sex becomes less frequent in a lot of relationships as years pass. But it isn't as if she even has to have sex with me. Hell, she barely has to put any effort into pleasing me, really.
But it's a matter of devotion. Aside from this, our relationship is a lot better than the relationships I've seen amongst the people I know. So do I allow a simple "fetish" to destroy that? Or do I continue on, thinking that I probably won't have an interpersonal relationship with someone this good again? Bear in mind that I waited until I was well into my thirties to get married. We've been together for over a decade. And I was with dozens of women before I met my wife so it isn't as though I'm lacking in experience.
If you want this thread to devolve into a critique of my critiques on random board members, fine. I'm not resting my fate on you people. I just figured I'd be open, honest and let you know where I'm coming from. There's a reason why I don't post much. I'm not ashamed of my proclivities, I'm just not a drooler. I figured there might be a few intelligent and reasoned individuals here who might actually be able to offer up some unique perspectives.
Posted by mjl1717 (Member # 2939) on :
quote:Originally posted by octoberbaseball: Seek professional help immediately!
I totally agree!
Posted by Keyfeet (Member # 27313) on :
quote:Originally posted by izzitjustme: I've been with hundreds of women
really? so why are you complaining? i havent been with nearly that many.
Posted by LovelyLadies (Member # 5079) on :
quote:Originally posted by izzitjustme: I'm just venting. I don't post much at all because, frankly, most of you people creep me the fuck out. But I'm one of you.
Sorry, but I just LOL'd at this part. Didn't take offense at all to it. I literally just LOL'd. Posted by octoberbaseball (Member # 20977) on :
quote:Originally posted by izzitjustme: Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that everyone here creeps me the fuck out. But a lot do. The point being I've always strived to be the sort of person who recognizes I have specific desires but don't drool in public over them in a licentious manner. Yeah, this is a public forum that caters to the niche desires of a minority, but it's also open to anyone to view (including my wife, who has visited this board numerous times) and I think if you read a lot of the posts from the view of someone who doesn't have a foot fetish it would creep you the fuck out to, if you're actually an honest individual. Personally, I find it humorous when I see posts about how the world "views foot fetishists as freaks," then read the things that are said here. You don't have to be a genius to disseminate why most view us as complete freaks. The evidence is is right before you. And again - my personal opinion - it's doing us all a disservice.
But back to the original post. I have had multiple discussions with my wife. To no avail. I give her foot rubs. I paint her toenails. She seems to like these things. But when it comes to anything else that caters to my fetish she avoids it like the plague. Won't even discuss it. And I just don't get that considering how our relationship started out. She was game in the beginning. Yeah, sex becomes less frequent in a lot of relationships as years pass. But it isn't as if she even has to have sex with me. Hell, she barely has to put any effort into pleasing me, really.
But it's a matter of devotion. Aside from this, our relationship is a lot better than the relationships I've seen amongst the people I know. So do I allow a simple "fetish" to destroy that? Or do I continue on, thinking that I probably won't have an interpersonal relationship with someone this good again? Bear in mind that I waited until I was well into my thirties to get married. We've been together for over a decade. And I was with dozens of women before I met my wife so it isn't as though I'm lacking in experience.
If you want this thread to devolve into a critique of my critiques on random board members, fine. I'm not resting my fate on you people. I just figured I'd be open, honest and let you know where I'm coming from. There's a reason why I don't post much. I'm not ashamed of my proclivities, I'm just not a drooler. I figured there might be a few intelligent and reasoned individuals here who might actually be able to offer up some unique perspectives.
That's why we are here, you told us your story and the best advice any of us can give you is to seek personal advice. That's the main point of this.
You may think some of us are creeps or weird. It is a public message board, but none of us are blasting this to the world, we come here to talk with others who have similar turnons and even if we don't it's not a problem. I'm not into dirty feet, but for those who are I'm not going to bash them. There are things I like that others may not, but it's interesting to see other points of views.
Regardless we have given advice, but the best advice is to move on and find professional help so no one is harmed.
Posted by bluetoelover (Member # 14736) on :
The advice that I gave was serious, even though I took offense to the creep comment.
The signs that you gave us are all pointing to "another man" in the relationship in my opinion. She lets you paint her nails,give footrubs etc so that it pleasures her, but when it comes time for her to give pleasure to you she backs off. Seems she is only concerned for herself and feels she doesn't need to do anything for you(sexually)...
Seems you have a good head on your shoulders and could provide some good intelligent conversations on Wu's so stick around
Good luck and keep us posted on how this transpires.
Posted by Toetapper (Member # 6473) on :
I'm not certain that I see signs of another man but, be that as it may, I do sense the absence of fundamental communication.
A therapist or good counselor would be very helpful in opening up a mutually informative dialog (apologies for the cliche psycho-babble terminology). To initiate such a conversation on your own can easily be perceived as confrontational and quickly digress. This is where professional help is important - keeps the conversation directed and minimizes the accusational tone.
Still, it only works if both parties take it seriously and want it to work.
Good Luck.
Oh, as for being offended...people would have to try a lot harder if they want to step on my toes.
Posted by octoberbaseball (Member # 20977) on :
From start to finish, well said Toetapper.
Posted by baalfootish (Member # 33991) on :
Listen guy. I'm gonna be blunt and to the point because of that creep the fuck out comment. Plenty of the upper class types on this site will get tight with me as well but here it is: depression and anxiety is cause by a prolonged endurance of down and out (depression) or not venting and/or bottled up strong feelings. I don't give a shit what a rich psych shrink tells you but if YOU don't make a decision to change aspects of your life don't be a pussy and blame it on 'depression' like its some contracted desease that requires a prescription, same goes for your girl. Sure some xanax or adderall wil make the worl right but that's just a physicall fix for the time being. Perhaps you should put more effort into finding out what gets your girl off or maybe romance her before just blaming some condition of the mind which is only caused in the first place by not taking to effort to find what truly settles you and makes you happy.
And I know some rich people are going to cry at this comment and tell me their shrink and zoloft is absolutely necessary due to medical conditions but spare me,this guys girl prolly has no sex drive from to much proscription psych meds. And if u truly believe that xanax, adderall, or vyvanse is a medicine necessary to ones health I will just lie and say I get no rockstar pleasure from taking those same pills for pleasure. The chem imbalance of depression means u gotta make some change in your life. Take ur girl bungy jumping, skydiving, off roading, I dunno something. Find what make her happy and u as well! No drug or RX will ever help your mental state as much as finding inner peace and finding out what really makes you happy. And inner peace and happiness can take a lifetime to achieve. So stop bitching, take charge of ur woman and give her a good fuck without asking if its ok and maybe she'll be happy for having had a real man take care of business
Posted by GQguy (Member # 16534) on :
I can understand a woman having low sex drive..but avoiding all sex acts is odd to me. We all do things in relationships that we're not too fond of...what's wrong with a 5 minute handjob or whatever for the guy she loves? Whenever my girl doesn't do something sexually for me I ask her "who else is supposed to do it for me?" It makes her think...if she's ready for me to be with a more sexually generous woman i'm attractive enough to make that so. Sometimes they need to be reminded.
If she won't make the effort to please her husband then you're already doomed. The fetish is not silly. I repeat the fetish is not silly. It's very real and you have no control over what you like...you do have control over who you're with.
Some people here creep me out too. It's their lack of reality and deviant behavior that does it for me. If you do creepy things...then you creep people out. No need for everyone to be offended..because only a a few of us are creepy. And the creepy people know who they are.
GQ
Posted by feetluvr (Member # 1570) on :
Whether you allow your fetish to tear apart your marriage is up to you. I think it depends on how critical the fetish is to meeting your sexual needs. It sounds like its pretty critical. I do personally believe that a good sex life is absolutely necessary for a marriage. While I deeply appreciate the suggestions to work on your relationship and in particular tour appreciation of her I don't think they realize how debilitating a severe physical or mental issue can be. My wife has been in the grip of menopause for a year now and refuses to take hormones. Consequently she doesn't sleep well at all so she's always tired. Her libido, which has never been any where close to mine is virtually gone. The only saving grace is that when we do have sex its fantastic. Will I leave her? No. We celebrated 30 years together this summer. But it does suck big time.
Posted by GQguy (Member # 16534) on :
quote:Originally posted by feetluvr: Whether you allow your fetish to tear apart your marriage is up to you. I think it depends on how critical the fetish is to meeting your sexual needs. It sounds like its pretty critical. I do personally believe that a good sex life is absolutely necessary for a marriage. While I deeply appreciate the suggestions to work on your relationship and in particular tour appreciation of her I don't think they realize how debilitating a severe physical or mental issue can be. My wife has been in the grip of menopause for a year now and refuses to take hormones. Consequently she doesn't sleep well at all so she's always tired. Her libido, which has never been any where close to mine is virtually gone. The only saving grace is that when we do have sex its fantastic. Will I leave her? No. We celebrated 30 years together this summer. But it does suck big time.
What defines a relationship? Sex! If there's nothing sexual going on...you're just really close friends....or brother and sister. Romance is the lead up to sex...without it there is no such thing as romance. To lose this in a relationship is to doom it! If my girl is a terrible listener...I can find a friend to listen to me. If my girl hates my hobbies....I can find a friend that has the same passions. If my girl refuses to have sex with me....i'm stuck! I can't find someone to give that to me without breaking our bond. Sure it's easy to trivialize sex...but it is the corner stone of every committed relationship. Otherwise what is the point of monogamy and why do people get married...when they can do everything with anyone else...but sex?
Denying your partner sex in a marriage is wrong. Should it be fun? Yes! But sometimes it's work...if you have zero sex drive then it's alot of work. But by denying a person sex puts them in a TERRIBLE position. A stronger person can keep their commitment to the marriage....yet they'll obsess over the sex that they NEED as opposed to devoting their attention to other things. The weaker person will not turn down sexual advances of others. And the weaker still will go out and seek sex from others. This breaks the marriage bond, could bring diseases into the house and a loss of respect and safety within the household. It's cruel.
If my girl asks for a back massage..i'll give it to her. What's so hard about a 5 minute footjob that keeps your HUSBAND happy? If a woman won't do that for me i'll show her the door. Note that I said "won't" as in she could/can but decides not to. At least if I divorce her I wouldn't be cheating.
Something is wrong here. You guys deserve better. It's not like you're asking for anal sex in the back of your mini van. If these women cared about your happiness they'd spend the 10minutes to keep you satisfied.
GQ
Posted by Fiona McFee (Member # 39121) on :
If you're a Savage Love reader then maybe you've heard the new word he's coined... monagamish. Maybe that can apply to you. If your wife is amazing in every way but doesn't satisfy your fetish, get that need filled elsewhere and you'll likely save your marriage.
Posted by nusuth (Member # 7372) on :
quote:Listen guy. I'm gonna be blunt and to the point because of that creep the fuck out comment. Plenty of the upper class types on this site will get tight with me as well but here it is: depression and anxiety is cause by a prolonged endurance of down and out (depression) or not venting and/or bottled up strong feelings. I don't give a shit what a rich psych shrink tells you but if YOU don't make a decision to change aspects of your life don't be a pussy and blame it on 'depression' like its some contracted desease that requires a prescription, same goes for your girl. Sure some xanax or adderall wil make the worl right but that's just a physicall fix for the time being. Perhaps you should put more effort into finding out what gets your girl off or maybe romance her before just blaming some condition of the mind which is only caused in the first place by not taking to effort to find what truly settles you and makes you happy.
And I know some rich people are going to cry at this comment and tell me their shrink and zoloft is absolutely necessary due to medical conditions but spare me,this guys girl prolly has no sex drive from to much proscription psych meds. And if u truly believe that xanax, adderall, or vyvanse is a medicine necessary to ones health I will just lie and say I get no rockstar pleasure from taking those same pills for pleasure. The chem imbalance of depression means u gotta make some change in your life. Take ur girl bungy jumping, skydiving, off roading, I dunno something. Find what make her happy and u as well! No drug or RX will ever help your mental state as much as finding inner peace and finding out what really makes you happy. And inner peace and happiness can take a lifetime to achieve. So stop bitching, take charge of ur woman and give her a good fuck without asking if its ok and maybe she'll be happy for having had a real man take care of business
holy fucking ignorance batman! what the hell does economic status have to do with your diatribe? personally, i think if you substituted 'intelligent' for 'rich' in your little rant, it'd make more sense.. at least for the way you think.
you guys all seem to be overlooking the fact that she has a medical disorder:
quote:My wife not only suffers from severe Depression she also suffers from what's called Anhedonia (a clinical diagnosis). She doesn't get any pleasure from, well, anything. Particularly sex
no matter how much he romances her or tries to reignites things, it's not gonna change her medical condition.
my suggestion is try talking to her honestly and definitely try to get someone to mediate. someone who actually understand both your situations as well as your conditions.
Posted by GQguy (Member # 16534) on :
quote:Originally posted by nusuth:
quote:Listen guy. I'm gonna be blunt and to the point because of that creep the fuck out comment. Plenty of the upper class types on this site will get tight with me as well but here it is: depression and anxiety is cause by a prolonged endurance of down and out (depression) or not venting and/or bottled up strong feelings. I don't give a shit what a rich psych shrink tells you but if YOU don't make a decision to change aspects of your life don't be a pussy and blame it on 'depression' like its some contracted desease that requires a prescription, same goes for your girl. Sure some xanax or adderall wil make the worl right but that's just a physicall fix for the time being. Perhaps you should put more effort into finding out what gets your girl off or maybe romance her before just blaming some condition of the mind which is only caused in the first place by not taking to effort to find what truly settles you and makes you happy.
And I know some rich people are going to cry at this comment and tell me their shrink and zoloft is absolutely necessary due to medical conditions but spare me,this guys girl prolly has no sex drive from to much proscription psych meds. And if u truly believe that xanax, adderall, or vyvanse is a medicine necessary to ones health I will just lie and say I get no rockstar pleasure from taking those same pills for pleasure. The chem imbalance of depression means u gotta make some change in your life. Take ur girl bungy jumping, skydiving, off roading, I dunno something. Find what make her happy and u as well! No drug or RX will ever help your mental state as much as finding inner peace and finding out what really makes you happy. And inner peace and happiness can take a lifetime to achieve. So stop bitching, take charge of ur woman and give her a good fuck without asking if its ok and maybe she'll be happy for having had a real man take care of business
holy fucking ignorance batman! what the hell does economic status have to do with your diatribe? personally, i think if you substituted 'intelligent' for 'rich' in your little rant, it'd make more sense.. at least for the way you think.
you guys all seem to be overlooking the fact that she has a medical disorder:
quote:My wife not only suffers from severe Depression she also suffers from what's called Anhedonia (a clinical diagnosis). She doesn't get any pleasure from, well, anything. Particularly sex
no matter how much he romances her or tries to reignites things, it's not gonna change her medical condition.
my suggestion is try talking to her honestly and definitely try to get someone to mediate. someone who actually understand both your situations as well as your conditions.
But not everything one does in a relationship gives you pleasure. I HATE having a dog. Guess who's taking care of it this week while my girl is gone cleaning up urine and getting it all over me. It sucks...but I love my girl. It helps her sleep well at night knowing that her dog is ok.
Sex is integral to a relationship...She might not get pleasure from sex...but she can perform some sort of sex act for him. She can try! At least with the dog my girl has the option of giving it to another friend without pissing me off and breaking our bond. But our OP here can't go to another woman to get his needs taken care of...putting him in a very shitty position.
You're the wise one here Nusuth with your years of marriage. Honestly...this scenario scares the shit out of me. Keeps me up at night. Is that too much to expect from your wife despite her lack of joy in it? Is it possible for her to truly love you and let you sit in a situation like that? Would he be in the wrong if he went elsewhere for pleasure after being denied at home? Would the honorable thing be to beg....and if she still won't...divorce?
GQ
Posted by hyperion2424 (Member # 39397) on :
Spotlight, I think I got your ass cancer. Next time cover your mouth when you cough, bastard. -hyp
Posted by bluetoelover (Member # 14736) on :
Well blunt as Spotlight's post was it did speak truth. Say OP is purely a FJ kinda of foot guy, you mean to tell me she couldn't just grab a magazine and say "have at em'"?
I know my wife doesn't sit there and get off on it by any means, thats like saying a woman absolutely just LOVES giving a handjob...exactly. Bullshit. BUT, she knows what gets me off and I'm not so full of shit to think that she gets enjoyment of having my dick rubbed all over her feet but to come on fellas, you seriously think she can't just lend a foot?
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Just think, I have had a few woman said I was a prevert because I just wanted to play with their feet instead of have sex. ![[Drool]](graemlins/drool.gif)
I said, damn! Just think, you can't catch a STD's for play with a woman feet. Also, you can't get them pregnant. ![[Hop]](graemlins/hop.gif)
However, I think if she want to cum while I am playing with her feet. She cam masturbate. ![[Jerkoff]](graemlins/jerkoff.gif)
But we are creeps.![[Cheers]](graemlins/cheers.gif)
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