After having some foot presence on the net since 2004, I am giving up, money wise. I discovered I have made more money selling nerdy stuff on ebay (warhammer 40k, comic books, magic cards, etc.) than selling foot fetish photos or videos. Also, clips4sale is a joke. It was cool about 8 years ago, when I first made a clipsstore, but back then, there was only a few hundred stores. Now, with so many clip stores, I wonder how anyone makes money. (especially when c4s takes 40% or so).
Anyways, I have 8 videos now on youtube, and if you haven't figured out yet how to download youtube videos, you should look into it. I am taking all of the videos I had on my clips4sale store and placing them on youtube for you all to see. ALL OF THEM! I'll try to close my c4s account and store in the next few days. But, seriously, all videos are available for free to view here: http://www.youtube.com/user/alcarde
If you don't know how to download them through firefox or chrome and you want one, let me know and for $0.25, I'll email you a zipped file with the video clip in it. Cheapest video clips ever!
Posted by LeDaemon (Member # 198) on :
Yeah, I'm clip studio 880 and I opened mine in 2004. I didn't close the store, but we don't regularly update it either anymore. We still get a monthly check from hitting the minimum sales even without updating. Its also about the content you carry. Straight up foot modeling doesn't sell like footjob clips which is what we have primarily on ours.
Posted by Girlgotsole (Member # 14405) on :
This is actually surprising to me (that footjob videos are so popular). I tend to like just straight up women posing feet and especially humiliating/instruction. Then again, though, I'm not a big fan of straight porn anyway (I end up wondering why there's a guy getting in on my chick in the video). Haha. Still, though, it's interesting to find out what sells the best.
Posted by Rider Aldebaran (Member # 38525) on :
I also vastly prefer girls posing their feet to footjob videos or even foot worship videos (there are exceptions), but I can see why footjob videos are more popular. It's just how "vanilla" guys would rather watch a video in which an attractive woman has sex with a guy (good-looking or not) instead of just softcore stuff. I guess hardcore is more exciting; same applies with footjobs, I imagine.
Posted by ddash1985 (Member # 18676) on :
Man that sucks.I feel for you man.
I have thought about giving up on my clipstore many times.Sometimes it is aggravating and stressful.When I started last year I was spending way more money to make videos than I was making back.I kept at it because I was having fun and it was only job.It is still my only job and Fortunately I kept at it and now I do ok from my clipstore every month.
Its funny that I started out posting my ex's feet and footjobs and the sales sucked.It would take 2 and 3 months to get a measly $100 check.Then I started getting more chicks and just doing straight up upclose style foot videos and it took off.I am blessed to have so many customers that support me but I swear I dont love doing this anymore.
I am fortunate to have my own style and people love it.The people definitely dictate what they like and what they will buy.I studied these for a long time and its paying off.
Posted by dbacks (Member # 26882) on :
Great collection of video's on you tube Alcarde!! thank you.
Posted by Tyler D. (Member # 11452) on :
Thanks for your contributions over the years and hopefully this won't end just due to the financial aspect of it all.
I pray that we'll see more stuff from you at the pace that you wish to share.
Excellent idea about the discount sale for the store close-out by the way! I applaud your kindness toward the foot fetish community. We just need more producers who are as thoughtful and as generous as you
[ March 24, 2012, 10:02 AM: Message edited by: Tyler D. ]
Posted by SarahSoles (Member # 44118) on :
good luck sorry it couldn't work out for you. You will always have our support here at WUS if/when you do decide to return
Posted by SarahSoles (Member # 44118) on :
quote:Originally posted by ddash1985: Man that sucks.I feel for you man.
Its funny that I started out posting my ex's feet and footjobs.....
Are those clips still up for sale???
Posted by ddash1985 (Member # 18676) on :
Yes her feet clips are still up there but not the footjobs.
Posted by SarahSoles (Member # 44118) on :
quote:Originally posted by ddash1985: Yes her feet clips are still up there but not the footjobs.
Cool, what's her name? I'll check her out on your site
Posted by ddash1985 (Member # 18676) on :
Stacy
Posted by bluetoelover (Member # 14736) on :
Have you considered having a side clips store for the footjob aspect Dash? With the girls you are landing there would be a huge potential for a market there. Posted by ddash1985 (Member # 18676) on :
No I havent.
98% of the girls I get are foot fetish models or even usually know what a foot fetish/footjob is.
So im sure they definitely wouldnt want to do that on film.Plus im really not sure it is worth the extra money.Im sure these stores with chicks doing footjobs/etc are spending a ton of money on them.I cant even imagine how much it would cost and if you would make a nice profit every month.
Im trying to stay as low key as possible man lol.
Posted by bluetoelover (Member # 14736) on :
Fair enough man. I just figured with the feet that you are showcasing time after time if you were to convince even half of them to do a FJ shoot it would be worth it. But then again it would just depend on how much it cost you(say you pay them 100 for just a foot shoot say 150 for a FJ) those are just rough figures btw. I have no idea on what is considered the "going rate" in terms of modelling.
Posted by ddash1985 (Member # 18676) on :
Yea it varies but just think about how much that extra $50,$100 or whatever will cost per model and per month.This stuff really adds up quickly and I have to stick to my budget.
To me this is Business and not pleasure anymore.I dont make a ton of money from this and must keep my priorities at hand.
I always tell people to donate whatever you can and I will try my best to get more material whether it be requests or bringing certain people back.
I think if more money was offered I could definitely have gotten more fj's.But nowadays I dont prefer them.
[ March 24, 2012, 11:13 PM: Message edited by: ddash1985 ]
Posted by SarahSoles (Member # 44118) on :
quote:Originally posted by ddash1985: Yea it varies but just think about how much that extra $50,$100 or whatever will cost per model and per month.This stuff really adds up quickly and I have to stick to my budget.
To me this is Business and not pleasure anymore.I dont make a ton of money from this and must keep my priorities at hand.
I always tell people to donate whatever you can and I will try my best to get more material whether it be requests or bringing certain people back.
I think if more money was offered I could definitely have gotten more fj's.But nowadays I dont prefer them.
Yep... But could you just imagine the dream of getting a FJ from each model that swings by on your site? OMG that would be so crazy. I'm starting a thread now don't worry lol
Posted by bluetoelover (Member # 14736) on :
Harsh reality is what it is man. Have you contacted other clip stores relative to yours in terms of how they do for the FJ market?
I totally hijacked this thread with the FJ question. Sorry to Alcarde. But thanks to Dash for answering the questions honestly and not getting butthurt like another certain site owner...
Posted by ddash1985 (Member # 18676) on :
Yea sorry to Alcarde,
@Sarah Soles lol ahahahahhaha.You a fool man lol.
No I dont really contact anyone about business or their site.To me this is business and competition.I have a big enough fan base and idea how to do things.I am definitely a fan of certain owners and sites but I figure they feel I am competition as well and want to keep things personal.I am never worried about another site taking money from me.I only feel I take money from myself by not getting more chicks or not advertising enough.There is definitely money to be made.
I do contemplate whether or not I should create a real site tho.Thats the only thing I regret doing or not doing.
The main thing is that I really dont want footjobs anymore.I will say there are certain models where I want 1 bad and ask for it.Sometimes I pay for it,
Posted by FIASCo (Member # 1899) on :
Alcarde, good luck with whatever future endeavors you may choose to pursue.
Posted by Tyler D. (Member # 11452) on :
quote:Originally posted by bluetoelover: But thanks to Dash for answering the questions honestly and not getting butthurt like another certain site owner...
Props for honesty, and it's funny to think that anyone gets butthurt from answering questions honestly. What a shady world it can be. Posted by bluetoelover (Member # 14736) on :
Yeah no kidding man! lol I suggested/asked one site owner about starting to shoot FJ vids and it was like I ruined his day or something asking him? lol Some people...
Posted by acebg (Member # 2056) on :
I deleted my my (C4S) clips a few years ago, but then figured it's not costing my anything to have it, so why not keep it? So I re-uploaded everything. It's certainly not much of a money maker, but I do have a small following. It's not really about the money anyhow. My wife has awesome feet and she happens to be a great (natural) toe wiggler (I meet her at work and her wiggling almost made me pass out one day). I felt I should share it, but it's time consuming so I need to charge for it. Bottom line: it doesn't cost anything to have clips available, and even a $5 sale is $5 more than you'd have otherwise. Good luck.
Posted by Alcarde (Member # 44028) on :
I guess I am in one of those bad but also good situations. I mean, I had such great models as Lil Mis Leah, Mommie Dearest, Footprincess and even Astelia on my site for a while. But I was married and am happily married now, so I really didn't want to ask my wife if it was alright for these models to give me a footjob and take a video of it. lol
I'm happy that I get all of the feet I ever need from my wife and footjobs as well, I was selling a footjob clip that was about 19 minutes of her teasing me and then 1 minute of me exploding, but it only sold a few times. Also, getting time to film a good video with two young kids in the house just wasn't working and my site was getting in the way of our regular life and our full time jobs.
I agree that it doesn't cost anything to have it on c4s and if you make $5 that is $5, but it doesn't work that way for me. For some reason, and maybe it is the way that c4s really works, but if I only make $5 for the month of March, I don't get a check for $5. It is like they have a clause and if you don't meet a certain amount of sales per month, they keep the money. Some months were good and I was making $24 or so, but because it was less than the $50 amount, they never sent a check. Also, I just didn't like the idea of having 40% taken away. I know its a billion dollar money maker decision and I'm sure that c4s will have more cash than Microsoft soon.
Anyway, yeah, I am saying it, anyone interested, pick any video from my youtube and I will sell it to you for $0.25, a whole quarter. Also, I have a zipped file of pictures of my wife's size 8 and 1/2 feet. There are 20 pictures in the file and it is 54MB of high quality photos. For those wanting a break to the foot fetish community, I'm selling photos for $0.01 each. This 20 photo set is yours for a massive $0.20! Let me know what you want...!!!!
Posted by ddash1985 (Member # 18676) on :
Yea I feel you but really the 40% is fair to me.I mean they do all of the extra stuff to sell your clips and provide a ton of ways for you to make money that you wouldnt have to able to.
Without them im sure most people wouldnt have the customers,advertising or nearly the amount of extra money from it.It pretty much sells itself.
I am always grateful to those that help me out and thats what C4S does and I have no problem splitting the money.Now if it ever went any higher there would be a problem.Some places do 50% and 60% cuts.
Yes they have a limit on when they send you money but they dont keep it.Its still yours until you reach the lowest payout limit which is $50.
I remember it motivating me when I first started out.My first check took 4 months to get and it was $107 lol.I couldve got a $50 check but I wanted that $100 so bad.Once you get your first check you will work harder to make more and more money.When I really got started last may I spent way more money than I made but now I make a nice profit and dont have to spend that much.I could not update and still do ok but I have alot of content and clips tho.
I would highly recommend Clips4sale.com to anyone who wants to start a clipstore.
[ March 26, 2012, 05:17 PM: Message edited by: ddash1985 ]
Posted by Beautifulfeetonline.com (Member # 13717) on :
Yes, sorry for losing the store. I redirect my c4s from my paysites and my network, thats mainly where I generate traffic for them. But even with paysites, with foot fetish, it's mos def a labor of love.
There have been times in the past where Beautifulfeetonline has not updated. It is what it is, and I have been there. Let me know if you ever decide to do another one and I can put you up a link on footpervert.com if you wish It takes a village, after all.
Posted by feetluvr (Member # 1570) on :
Very sorry to hear about your store. Thanks for sharing the photos and vids. Great quality photos and vids of some great feet.
Posted by eff (Member # 11277) on :
Your favorite models of mine were Cindy and Jody.
Sorry to hear about everything. Hopefully you change your mind sometime down the road. Posted by Alcarde (Member # 44028) on :
Hey, I will have more videos to post up there soon, but take advantage of those videos if you haven't yet. I don't mean to be mean to those with working c4s stores, but the quarter per video of any length really is the deal. I know at this point that I am not going to make back the money I had spent on all of these videos and pictures so why not have some fun with it, right?
Let me know if there are any videos you want to see, I likely have them of almost any kind on my hd.
Posted by edelbrock (Member # 17055) on :
i know this is off topic but i figure it relevant considering its about c4s and theres a couple users here in the thread
i too would like to open a c4s and i got fj vids but im worried about the release. how does it work? do they make all the models have a release? i got dozens of high def FJ vids ive recorded but i dont want any legal issues so ive been feeding them to xhamster.
Posted by SarahSoles (Member # 44118) on :
quote:Originally posted by edelbrock: i know this is off topic but i figure it relevant considering its about c4s and theres a couple users here in the thread
i too would like to open a c4s and i got fj vids but im worried about the release. how does it work? do they make all the models have a release? i got dozens of high def FJ vids ive recorded but i dont want any legal issues so ive been feeding them to xhamster.
Even if you upload to xhamster..... without a release you can definitely be sued. Even if you post something on youtube... you can be sued.
Unless you are shooting candids outside then there is a loophole that says since you and the woman you are shooting are outside it's in a public place and anyone could of seen her anyway.
So FJ's I'm assuming you did behind closed doors? If so, and you have no model release, I would strongly advise AGAINST risking it. Go ask them to sign model releases FIRST. Of course they will ask for more money now and ask why do you need releases all of a sudden, but it's worth not going to prison (not jail) and being sued up the ass.
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