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Posted by Peter, Peter (Member # 40235) on :
 
So as my topic says, What is it with some ladies putting "princess" before their name? Are they putting themselves on this pedestal by calling themselves "Princess"? I just don't get it, I am infavor of a woman sometimes taking control. But,can someone please tell me what is this all about.
 
Posted by Arch_Analyst (Member # 28756) on :
 
Princess, mistress, lady ... whatever they choose to call themselves -- the way I see it, it's a signal to guys and girls that want to pay to be pussified and/or otherwise treated like shit that she serves their niche.

How seriously they take themselves as princesses, mistresses, etc. outside of their "work" is up for debate.

I have no clue why a guy or girl would want to be degraded, but it's their prerogative to engage in such activities despite how ridiculous I think it is ... similar to the way I'm sure some people would view my prerogative to want a woman to rub her sweaty feet all over my face.
 
Posted by Beautifulfeetonline.com (Member # 13717) on :
 
...because women are Gods. There is some amount of worship involved in every aspect of adoration.
 
Posted by Rider Aldebaran (Member # 38525) on :
 
I wonder this as well. Part of me thinks it makes them sound conceited.
 
Posted by Tyler D. (Member # 11452) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Arch_Analyst:
it's a signal to guys and girls that want to pay to be pussified and/or otherwise treated like shit

Right on the money! [Thumbs Up]
 
Posted by DeTrOiT (Member # 37598) on :
 
The title of "Princess" never came off to me that way. I thought that they just like to be pampered or you know...Treated like a "Princess"...Now those dominatrix chics, "Mistress Blah Blah"...I kind of thought that they were more into humiliating guys/ girls...Maybe I'm wrong?..It's not like I frequent those sites and I'm not giving those..."Ladies" any money or crawling around playing "Bitch Boy" for their amusement ... or mine...
 
Posted by Patrick (Member # 1169) on :
 
Like when a guy calls himself the man, or any other nicknames. In this sense though, it most likely goes into the worship, femdom, and fetish aspects that are associated with the foot fetish. It's not for everyone, but has enough of a following.

Patrick
 
Posted by fatpat (Member # 4256) on :
 
I just call them cu....cute
 
Posted by LeDaemon (Member # 198) on :
 
I'm not fond of it either. Especially when they pose with a smug expression and giving the camera the finger. Feh...
 
Posted by bluetoelover (Member # 14736) on :
 
Never understood that label or "Goddess". Only one woman in my life is that and that is my wife.
 
Posted by National (Member # 8568) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Peter, Peter:
So as my topic says, What is it with some ladies putting "princess" before their name? Are they putting themselves on this pedestal by calling themselves "Princess"?

That's right.

They've had many guys hand them things on a silver platter, many guys giving them compliments on their looks. So many compliments, that they might take us for granted because they won us over quite easily just like they do with just about any guy. And I'm not just talking about women who call themselves princesses on foot forums because this also goes out to women -- more specifically the hot ones -- who could've developed the Princess Complex. If you don't know what that is, look it up.

Very few guys present themselves as challenges to them, they rarely get put in their places. Because of all of this, these guys raise their values while at the same time these women lower those guys values. Just listen to what they say in their JOI videos on YouTube about men being weak and powerless in their presence if you need an example of what I’m talking about. Men who don't stand up for something will fall for anything. They know there are plenty of men like that, particularly foot fetishists. These guys are their prime demographic.

By always complimenting them, they boost their self-esteem. Women with high self-esteem are much less likely to put out than women with low self-esteem. Again, listen to how they talk in those POV or JOI videos. Their self-esteems are through the roof to the point where they convinced themselves that they are invincible because these footstools who subject themselves to that humiliation made that responsible! With that attitude, there's VERY little to zero chance that she'll have sex with or have respect for you unless you say "no" to these hot women more often when they ask for favors like ... moving their furniture on a Saturday afternoon if you're not her boyfriend or husband, for example. These women talking the way they do about these guys shows zero respect for them. And no woman would have sex with a guy she has zero respect for.

The type of guys these 9s and 10s will open their legs for are A-holes, reprobates, players, guys who have been profiled on America's Most Wanted, whatever. That's because they don't fall for their silly games or jump through their silly hoops. They will never demean those guys like that.

Yes, those videos are entertaining. Yes, these women are hot. Yes, I would do them. But they're not princesses, boys. She's not a princess when she has sex with multiple guys and have babies from multiple men. She's not a princess. She is not a princess when she has her tongue pierced or has a tramp stamp. She's not a princess. She's not a princess when she's on films like 29 Lays Later, Mary Bobbins, Snatch Me If You Can, Glad-He-Ate-Her, Glazed and Confused or White Up My Ass. She's not a fairy little princess.

Girls like Princess Lyne ... you'll be amazed with what giving it to her in the ass real good will do for you. If she met a guy who she knows could eat a bratty girl like her for breakfast, she'll think twice about being condescending to him because he has authority and higher self esteem than the guys she degrades in her videos and because her self esteem would be no where near as high as when she's with him compared to the men she belittles.

Even though some of these self-proclaimed princesses or goddesses are good looking, I will not go as far as to call them as such unless it was Kate Middleton or if I'm referring to Princess Diana, who I should remind you that she was not killed by the British Secret Service, but instead by the French underground!

The only time I put a woman on a pedestal is when I want to look up her skirt.


-- National
 
Posted by Arch_Analyst (Member # 28756) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by National:

Men who don't stand up for something will fall for anything. They know there are plenty of men like that, particularly foot fetishists. These guys are their prime demographic...

...Even though some of these self-proclaimed princesses or goddesses are good looking, I will not go as far as to call them as such unless it was Kate Middleton or if I'm referring to Princess Diana...

...The only time I put a woman on a pedestal is when I want to look up her skirt.


-- National

That was a very nice piece National.

I highlighted the lines that I felt were really spot on.
 
Posted by DeTrOiT (Member # 37598) on :
 
Interesting outlook...But the one thing that we are not understanding is that "IT'S" not for us. But, the guys that are into this type of behavior LIKE IT...They get off on it and we aren't supposed to understand it.

My only problem is, We sound just like women when they tell their girlfriends, "Girl, I wouldn't let him talk to me like that" or something similar. Everybody does what works for them in their universe. Dominant personalities require submissives to find balance so there has to be some available. There is something about giving up control that is kind of erotic to me but just not at the level at which these guys operate. That being said, I'm not one who judges(well I try not to).

I have had many girls say, "You said what to your wife" or "My man couldn't say that to me" then I say, "Well, that's good...WE JUST KNOW THAT I'M NOT THE ONE FOR YOU...I'm a Dictator, no negotiating here Baby"...I will listen to her angle on a situation...BUT THE DECISION IS ULTIMATELY MINE...

But then there's always gonna be the guy who wants to be told to lick the toilet..or dirty feet..lmao...To each it's own..right?..

And this should go without saying but: I DON'T MEAN ANYTHING OFFENSIVE OR DISRESPECTFUL TOWARDS ANY PERSON ON THIS SITE WITH THE STATEMENT..."WE SOUND JUST LIKE THE WOMEN WHO..."

[ April 13, 2012, 02:18 PM: Message edited by: DeTrOiT ]
 
Posted by Vendetta (Member # 29494) on :
 
I agree ...there are so many clips on you tube and specific so called foot models who think its hot to call you a foot boy and a piece of shit and they don't even know you ....I was scammed by one of these princesses lol such a joke to come to find out that she lives in one of the most poverty stricken cities in the U.S just south of me while I am lookin at a 24" LED 1080p monitor and sitting in my 2.2 million dollar home ....lol I don't mean to brag but just making a point so please dont take it any other way but ya its such a joke they put on a front and make money illegitimately in my eyes at least. Most GIRLS are professional .....and they can get my money the ones who degrade us because we have a foot fetish wtf so what 1-4 men have one wither they admit it or not
 
Posted by bluetoelover (Member # 14736) on :
 
You have a 2.2 million dollar home? Don't suppose you feel like having a tax writeoff and throwing 20g my way? [Big Grin]
 
Posted by solebrotha985 (Member # 2347) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by LeDaemon:
I'm not fond of it either. Especially when they pose with a smug expression and giving the camera the finger. Feh...

pretty much sums up my feeling on the subject. i guess some guys really get off on a female controlling them like that and treating them like shit.
 
Posted by Vendetta (Member # 29494) on :
 
They think they are entitled to being put on a pedestal when in all actuality they need to be put in the ground
 
Posted by Patrick (Member # 1169) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by DeTrOiT:
Interesting outlook...But the one thing that we are not understanding is that "IT'S" not for us. But, the guys that are into this type of behavior LIKE IT...They get off on it and we aren't supposed to understand it.

My only problem is, We sound just like women when they tell their girlfriends, "Girl, I wouldn't let him talk to me like that" or something similar. Everybody does what works for them in their universe. Dominant personalities require submissives to find balance so there has to be some available. There is something about giving up control that is kind of erotic to me but just not at the level at which these guys operate. That being said, I'm not one who judges(well I try not to).

I have had many girls say, "You said what to your wife" or "My man couldn't say that to me" then I say, "Well, that's good...WE JUST KNOW THAT I'M NOT THE ONE FOR YOU...I'm a Dictator, no negotiating here Baby"...I will listen to her angle on a situation...BUT THE DECISION IS ULTIMATELY MINE...

But then there's always gonna be the guy who wants to be told to lick the toilet..or dirty feet..lmao...To each it's own..right?..

And this should go without saying but: I DON'T MEAN ANYTHING OFFENSIVE OR DISRESPECTFUL TOWARDS ANY PERSON ON THIS SITE WITH THE STATEMENT..."WE SOUND JUST LIKE THE WOMEN WHO..."

This is exactly on point. Just remember how many people want to know why in the hell you'd like a girl's feet. To each their own. Sometimes I love being in control of a girl, but there are PLENTY of times I love when a girl owns me.

...And really, how different is it than a guy making a girl call him "daddy." How weird is that? LOL

Patrick
 
Posted by dougiezerts (Member # 6829) on :
 
I met a real princess, once. It was at a Phillipine festival, and she was a princess of one of the tribes, there.
And she was barefooted! [Smile]
 
Posted by MYFEET1978 (Member # 44579) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Peter, Peter:
So as my topic says, What is it with some ladies putting "princess" before their name? Are they putting themselves on this pedestal by calling themselves "Princess"? I just don't get it, I am infavor of a woman sometimes taking control. But,can someone please tell me what is this all about.

lol, a good point
 
Posted by Goddess Melanie (Member # 40802) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by Peter, Peter:
So as my topic says, What is it with some ladies putting "princess" before their name? Are they putting themselves on this pedestal by calling themselves "Princess"? I just don't get it, I am infavor of a woman sometimes taking control. But,can someone please tell me what is this all about.

It's all about domination - I read all other posts that "agree" with a condescending tone towards this type of video and photo content. Same people are probably react in an offended matter by movies, film and books.


Princess - Typically put in front of a Dom who practices direct or online financial domination without typical attributes of S&M like ropes, whips, chains - Hot Looking Girl Next Door who will talk snooty to you, practice key-holding and famously, ass, foot, shoe, oral, lipstick and sissy fetishes.

Goddess - This is put in front of someone who is Dominant - i.e/e.g. Dominates men, including verbal humiliation, jerk off instructions, interactive sessions etc, typically bypassing the major stamp of FINANCIAL DOM/CAM DOM. Entertaining all fetishes this Dom is comfortable with. Having some S&M equipment such as whip riding crop etc, handcuffs and rope.

Mistress - More standard S&M practitioner, typically having whips chains and a play dungeon, and more latex and rubber wardrobe that is loud and shiny and less girl next door look. There are specific rules to the wardrobe FYI. Mistress is typically heavily invested in elaborate latex, leather and other attire and gear. But as industry standard will entertain foot worshipers and boot or shoot aficionados, but with nipple clamps to go along.

If anyone has a problem with this type of "content" or material such as video or photos, then don't look!

Just like the extremely dainty and expensively overproduced DDF or Ed Fox or other tachen type books. It's all fantastically entertaining for some and may not be for others.

I simply don't understand the need to harp about it, if you're a Dominant male personality just pass them by, don't sit here in the open saying so and so needs to get fucked in the ass to set her right. That is not her gig. There are plenty of Submissive foot friendly women.

The said content is explicitly produced for someone who likes it, not for someone who wishes the content would be different. The Model/Actor/Princess/Goddess/Mistress plays a role, in character to entertain a specific AUDIENCE, when in real life in person session typically the audience of ONE, ad-lib and dialogue is then custom tailored to that persons inner most fetishes, fantasies and desires.

I'm sure the ABSTRACTS did not list submissive foot job video by Jennifer. It said HUMILIATING JOI by Princess Jennifer. So I fail to see where the complaint is aside from someone wishing that said content producers and websites simply go out of business and the internet be rid of them. - Which will never happen as long as there is an audience. There is probably someone in right now declaring war on this very website, on foot jobs, and soles etc..

I don't think It's not anyones job to DISABUSE someone of their fantasies and explain them away as low self esteem - it actually takes BALLS to go into a session with a Dom - And if they agree with this type of thinking, then they should look no further that even Retifism and Podophilia are defined in DSM 3 as a AXIS 2 disorder listing a co-operating sex partner in helping "further" the disorder. Which I think is ridiculous of them to say. But there you have it.

All this content is editorialized in such a way as to create _suspension of disbelief_, i.e. / e.g. you're watching a film - it still has credit roll overlays in the opening, you're not reading them you're paying attention to what the actors are saying albeit you're looking at a projected two dimensional image in a dark theater or your home, shot with a camera, with sounds playing.

Real life has no backing music to it for tense or upsetting situations or montages.

As stated earlier (not to the OP), if you're harping about something someone said in their VIDEO CLIP with feet in it, you're probably offended by Lit Erotica Foot Slave stories, or things Hollywood Actors say in films as well and treat them not for the actual person they really in life - but as the character role they play on TV.

P.S. Sometimes "Princess" may mean Bratty Content which may not have anything to do with foot fetish at all.

Also. There are few and far between S&M players that are living the life 24/7.

So if you have to ask yourself a question whether or not Princess ..... etc go around being real assholes to men or women in real life everyday life 24/7 - no not really, typically they are extremely nice and polite people, it happens either in front of a camera or in front of a real and willing submissive.

Please also don't confuse it with Mistress-itus, in which the Dom did so many sessions etc.. that she completely forgets or ignores the needs or fetishes of the submissive and feels that she should just be honored for being.

P.P.S. Financial Domination that I referred to earlier, is an extremely dangerous sport, together with blackmail and etc..

Wives can and will sue the Dom, people DO spend money they don't have, criminal charges have been filed in certain cases. So I tend to avoid it, and salute the Princesses that know how to practice it correctly without dire consequences to players, but it's not something an average reader of the forum will understand as a fetish either.

[ April 17, 2012, 07:17 PM: Message edited by: Goddess Melanie ]
 
Posted by Goddess Melanie (Member # 40802) on :
 
quote:
Originally posted by National:

Women with high self-esteem are much less likely to put out than women with low self-esteem.


That statement is a complete fallacy.

quote:

With that attitude, there's VERY little to zero chance that she'll have sex with

I don't believe the DIRECT INTENT of the operators of said blogs, clipstores, nightflirts and websites and dungeons and producers of said content is to offer sex/intercourse for money or otherwise to the audience.


quote:

These women talking the way they do about these guys shows zero respect for them.


I believe that is indeed the desired effect of said writing, videos and photographs - tailored for an audience that wants to hear humiliating things.

quote:

And no woman would have sex with a guy she has zero respect for.

If you put directly openly submissive women aside and Princess websites aside - if your opening line in a PUB is - as you put it - " ... you'll be amazed with what giving it to her in the ass real good will do for you." will earn you zero to no respect in a real world situation, hence no sex.
 
Posted by National (Member # 8568) on :
 
quote:
]I don't believe the DIRECT INTENT of the operators of said blogs, clipstores, nightflirts and websites and dungeons and producers of said content is to offer sex/intercourse for money or otherwise to the audience.
You're right. However, I do believe that the more they preach it, the sooner they buy into that rhetoric, the sooner they adapt that mindset. It was said by Arch Analyst earlier in this thread that how much they believe in what they're saying is up for debate. That's true, and I believe that a number of them have become influenced by it.


quote:
If you put directly openly submissive women aside and Princess websites aside - if your opening line in a PUB is - as you put it - " ... you'll be amazed with what giving it to her in the ass real good will do for you." will earn you zero to no respect in a real world situation, hence no sex.
I know that. [Wink]


quote:
Originally posted by Goddess Melanie:

That statement is a complete fallacy.

Really?


I have scientific evidence that confirms what I said. In this case, I was talking about adults, but teenagers are little adults, really. This story is a few years old and it has something to do with teenagers, but I'm going to recite a couple of paragraphs from this and you'll see what I'm talking about.

Girls with low self esteem are much more likely to have sexual intercourse at an early age. But the opposite is true for the boys. Reports released by Statistics Canada found that self worth -- whether teen respondents liked the way they were -- felt that they had a lot to be proud of and considered them competent, played different roles into whether boys and girls had sex by age 15. 12- or 13 year-old girls who had low self esteem were almost twice as likely as their peers to have sexual intercourse by 15. But pre-teen boys who had high self worth were more likely to have sex by that age

So you see, a guy needs to have high self esteem. For a guy, trying to get sex is about how much rejection you can handle. You have to be cocky and women admire confidence. Men always knew this, women have confirmed that, but now I've presented to you statistical evidence from Canada that says girls with low self-esteem are more likely to put out. Guys with high self-esteem more likely to have gotten laid. So guys, you need high self esteem, high confidence level, an arrogance level. She, low self-esteem, feels badly about herself, sees all of her imperfections as major imperfections, and mole hills are being made in to mountains.

"That finding is important, particularly for parents and educators to be looking at and talking to youth about how issues of self-esteem may lead them into having intercourse earlier than they otherwise might," said Alex McKay, research co-ordinator of the Sex Information and Education Council of Canada.

http://able2know.org/topic/50930-1


And there are other findings in this study that are not relevant to what we're talking about, but the point is it's not just true for teenagers ... it's true for men and women. For a man, the higher his self-esteem, the higher his self worth, the higher his libido, a guy with a good job, good looks, confidence, money, is going to be getting more poon because he looks confident. He exudes confidence.

Women want security. They feel secure with a man who looks confident, a man who looks self-assured, a man who has high self-esteem, even when it's not warranted. For a man it's just important to look confident, to be arrogant, to be a jerk. For a woman, in order to get laid she has to have low self-esteem because women with high-self esteem say things like, "I ain't gonna sleep with YOU. Who you think I am, a slut?"

You don't want to meet chicks like that. You want to meet women who are willing to give it up just because they're insecure about their femininity, they're insecure as to whether they're attractive. You know those chicks, "You think I'm pretty? ... You think I look fat? ... You think I'm ... ?" They will do anything in bed. Women who tell you that they're large and in charge and who have a rump roast for a butt there, women who are confident about their fatness, confident about their homeliness ...

A. Won't give it up to you.
B. You wouldn't want it anyway.

You want hot girls with low self-esteem. By the same token, guys, you need to have high self-esteem.


The last link has nothing to do with sex, but I will throw it in there anyway.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2007-11-12-teen-sex_N.htm
http://www.medicine.indiana.edu/iu_medicine/02_fall/teenSex.html
http://blog.singularvalues.com/2007/06/ny-times-reports-girls-who-have-sex-at.html
http://recapp.etr.org/recapp/index.cfm?fuseaction=pages.currentresearchdetail&PageID=185&PageTypeID=5
http://www.casacolumbia.org/articlefiles/412-GIRLS%20AND%20ALCOHOL_CASA%20Fact%20Sheet.pdf

[ April 17, 2012, 10:11 PM: Message edited by: National ]
 
Posted by DeTrOiT (Member # 37598) on :
 
Great topic just got better. There are many good points in this debate from both sides, but I must say that I think the scientific evidence behind National's argument has a higher percentage of being correct in teens. When you become an adult things kind of change. By this time, that girl with low self esteem has been used a little bit and made to feel even lower because she has learned at some point that "Sexual Attention" isn't enough to feel better about herself. In fact she's going to feel worse because shes going to feel like she was used.

That woman with high self esteem still wants to feel a man and that teen arrogance that many nice looking young girls has starts to change. She will begin to lower those standards and find a common ground that is more realistic. When we are just kids, It's all about looks. As we get a little older, we start to pay attention to the other things like clothes, intelligence, financial stability, sexual performance, class, etiquette etc. When your young, IT"S JUST THE LOOKS...

And just for the record, It's us men that give these ladies the power to be Goddess, Princess, etc. Some of them may enjoy the role playing aspect but at the end of it all they are women and and some point they want to feel protected and feminine and want a man that's stronger (physically and mentally) than they are. It's only natural (well for most women).

These ladies aren't running around all day acting bossy and bitchy...It's just fantasy...right?

I like Goddess Melanie...I want to see her feet...lol

[ April 18, 2012, 08:17 AM: Message edited by: DeTrOiT ]
 
Posted by National (Member # 8568) on :
 
So what you're saying is that adult women with high self-esteem are more likely to put out while men with low self-esteem are more likely to have gotten laid? You're not going to find studies that back that up because this isn't true.

Let's make a few comparisons. For each match, I want you to tell me who's more likely to put out on a first date.

1. Oprah Winfrey or this girl http://www.feet-it.com/tgp/20120311/look.php?pic=G007_1184_15
2. Queen Fatifah or this girl http://www.wusfeetlinks.com/denice.html
3. Whoppi Goldberg or this girl http://www.wusfeetlinks.com/shylajennings.html
4. Mo'Nique or this girl http://www.wusfeetlinks.com/klara.html
5. Melissa McCarthy or this girl http://www.wusfeetlinks.com/alysharylee.html
6. Mara Wilson or this one http://www.wusfeetlinks.com/jessicapfw.html


The answer to each question is the second choice because she has lower self-esteem than the woman who was the first choice of each question. Women like Oprah always encourage women to have high self-esteem. Why? Because they know that women are whoring it up already, so she wants to make sure that that stays in check. They want as many women with high self-esteem because that raises the price of pussy. They know that the more women there are with high self-esteem, the more hoops they will make men jump through to get pussy. The last thing you guys should be doing is encouraging these high self-esteemed hos. You're giving the opposition more of your bullets in combat.

The one with the higher self-esteem is the one who's more of the puppeteer of the two. If she has higher self-esteem than the guy she's dating, she'll hold out on the sex indefinitely and she'll more likely take advantage of him. It's war out there in the dating world and the bigger son of a bitch wins. To win the war, guys, you cannot place her higher on the pedestal than what she already is. When hot women get approached, immediately assume that you are of lower value than they are. To lower their guards, chip away at her self esteem. You're putting more chink in her armor and she'll give in to you eventually.

I'm willing to bet that women like Oprah have MUCH higher self-esteem than any girl who's a waitress at Hooters or any girl who has posed her feet for GoodGuyNeighbor. ANY girl on his site. Each of them has lower self-esteem than women who are confident about not fitting into the stereotype of how a hot woman should look like.



quote:
Originally posted by DeTrOiT:
When we are just kids, It's all about looks. As we get a little older, we start to pay attention to the other things like clothes, intelligence, financial stability, sexual performance, class, etiquette etc. When your young, IT"S JUST THE LOOKS...

For men, it's about looks first and foremost, regardless if he's twelve or sixty-five. Men do not care about the other stuff until after we have seen them naked. First, we want to know whether their nipples are pink or brown, or if her feet are up to our standards. Then, if you think this woman is cool enough, then will be the time to see if you like other things about her. But I think the intelligent part is irrelevant. Men don't care about how smart she is as long as she isn't mentally retarded. I'm willing to go as far as to say that the higher her I.Q., the less likely it is that she'll ever get married.


quote:
Originally posted by DeTrOiT:

These ladies aren't running around all day acting bossy and bitchy...It's just fantasy...right?

They're more likely to be bitches to men who have lower self-esteems than they have. It's been said that these women are not bitches in real life ... they're just bitches to you. Now when I say that, I don't mean YOU specifically, Detroit. I remember seeing a sign that said, I'm not really a bitch. I just play one in your life.
 
Posted by Fair Adam (Member # 13350) on :
 
Just my two cents worth. The title of "Princess" has been so overused, as to have lost most of its true meaning. If you have to award yourself a title, maybe you need to rethink the whole situation.

The word "Diva" is another offender, that word comes from the world of Italian Opera, and was only applied to a select few female superstars by their adoring public, so calling yourself a diva just doesn't cut it, it's something you have to earn, and only the public gets to decide whether you're worthy.

Same thing for the word "great" when referring to simply the very good. I could go on, but you get the picture...
 
Posted by MYFEET1978 (Member # 44579) on :
 
lol ! it's a cracking up topic, sweet jesus... [Smile] ))
 
Posted by MYFEET1978 (Member # 44579) on :
 
if u ask me, it sucks ass. don't call yourself any of these. we all are ORDINARY bitches. none of us was born a princess, a "real" doll or a diva. u are just a woman, PERIOD. but who asked me ? nobody. and im nobody, but i have the right to have an oppinion. that's just bullshit bought by men. whatthefuckever. it's girlie style and so sweet, lmfao
 
Posted by Vendetta (Member # 29494) on :
 
there is no fucking chick I would ever bow down to fuck I am a grown ass man who is dominant in every way they call them selves a goddess or princess fuck them cause I will ...they couldn't handle a 10 inch cock in any one of their princess HOLES they do not know who the fuck we are and I am going to take ever princess that smugs their ugly face down one by one I will make them an offer they wont refuse MONEY TALKS AND THESE PRINCESSES WILL FUCKING WALK period
 
Posted by MYFEET1978 (Member # 44579) on :
 
vendetta, that's probably a good nickname, u're pretty agressive, lol
 
Posted by Daren Luvswrinkles (Member # 43489) on :
 
It's fantasy ... make believe. Another of a long list of very particular desires, which float some peoples' boats.

I like seeing the prefix "stinky" in front feet. I like seeing the prefix "wrinkled" in front of soles.

Princess, Goddess, they're just prefixes which get some guys interested. It probably also helps further detach from reality, and dive right into the fantasy.
 
Posted by Goddess Melanie (Member # 40802) on :
 
quote:

I have scientific evidence that confirms what I said. In this case, I was talking about adults, but teenagers are little adults, really. This story is a few years old and it has something to do with teenagers, but I'm going to recite a couple of paragraphs from this and you'll see what I'm talking about.

The put-out ratio is directly proportional to levels of testosterone and estrogen in a woman's hormonal system - base line and and at any given time during the ovulation cycle.

Teens are completely different from grown adults. You cannot transpose one to the other.
 
Posted by kingler (Member # 40920) on :
 
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Originally posted by Vendetta:
I agree ...there are so many clips on you tube and specific so called foot models who think its hot to call you a foot boy and a piece of shit and they don't even know you ....I was scammed by one of these princesses lol such a joke to come to find out that she lives in one of the most poverty stricken cities in the U.S just south of me while I am lookin at a 24" LED 1080p monitor and sitting in my 2.2 million dollar home ....lol I don't mean to brag but just making a point so please dont take it any other way but ya its such a joke they put on a front and make money illegitimately in my eyes at least. Most GIRLS are professional .....and they can get my money the ones who degrade us because we have a foot fetish wtf so what 1-4 men have one wither they admit it or not

Only 24"? [Tongue] I've got a 27" LED 2560*1440 totally maxed out iMac, bought on a whim!

But I do find this "princess" thing hilarious especially in how far they take it.
 
Posted by DeTrOiT (Member # 37598) on :
 
I think I follow you National, But I respectfully disagree.. Now, I have never had a problem with getting beautiful women. Every girl that I have ever been with has beautiful feet. I have never been shy or shameful about my love of pretty feet so life has been grand. I read some of these horror stories about guys who have never had some nice feet on a nice girl who likes them...So sad... So sad..

Now, as far as all of those women you named Oprah, Whoopie, Monique etc. They will get pounded by some guy just as quick as one of those foot models(No matter how much self esteem they have. (THEY ARE NOT HOT AND NOBODY IS REALLY JACKIN OFF TO THOSE LADIES). Maybe they will get pounded faster because there aren't very many guys looking at Whoopie Goldberg or Oprah and saying, " Damned she's fine as hell, I wanna pound her"...Queen Latifah's is a lesbo and her girl is fine as hell, so she doesn't count. You guys are giving these girls too much flack for providing a service that is quite obviously wanted and needed by some guys...

FUCK IT...I KINDA FIND IT KINKY...I THINK I WANNA EXPERIENCE IT...I want to be called foot boy and told to suck some cute toes...But after a while I'm banging it down LIKE A SILVER BACK GORILLA Bro..It's not real, It's fantasy..

See, I'm an alpha male...I have no problem giving up that control to a woman with perfect feet while we play...I'm not licking toilets or getting kicked in the balls or anything but I find dominant women sexy, UNTIL I DECIDE THAT I'M DONE PRETENDING...Then, I might slap her face say, "Shut the fuck up and poke your ass out bitch"..Then I'm as bossy as they get...(sorry if I got too graphic ladies)

I think the difference is that I control shit so much that It's the norm...I have made every girl get their foot game up. I always dominate in the sack and a change of pace might be interesting. For a little while anyway. I have never met a girl that was truly dominant so I think it's an act. It's in most women's nature to be submissive to a man and they like feeling like....Well a Lady...They are doing the princess, mistress thing for they guys (most of them)...In fact I have had girls say on a few different occasions, " Why didn't you tell me to shut up, or growl like a gorilla or choke me or hurt me?"...I was like WTF...Can I be regular sometimes?

[ April 19, 2012, 05:18 PM: Message edited by: DeTrOiT ]
 
Posted by dougiezerts (Member # 6829) on :
 
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Originally posted by Fair Adam:
Just my two cents worth. The title of "Princess" has been so overused, as to have lost most of its true meaning. If you have to award yourself a title, maybe you need to rethink the whole situation.

The word "Diva" is another offender, that word comes from the world of Italian Opera, and was only applied to a select few female superstars by their adoring public, so calling yourself a diva just doesn't cut it, it's something you have to earn, and only the public gets to decide whether you're worthy.

Same thing for the word "great" when referring to simply the very good. I could go on, but you get the picture...

And same with the word "Goddess!"
 
Posted by Patrick (Member # 1169) on :
 
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Originally posted by Goddess Melanie:
...it actually takes BALLS to go into a session with a Dom

It sure does and man it is awesome when those girls smash'em all up between their toes and under their soles. [Smile]

Patrick
 
Posted by National (Member # 8568) on :
 
I'm going to present all of you guys in here an equation of something that I've used over the years. It is a mathematical formula that I spent many hours hypothesizing, working on it, refining it. It's utterly perfect and simple. There is actually a mathematical formula to figure out what kind of chicks you want. That formula goes like this. I'm sure that while in school you studied fractions and ratios. A ratio is a whole number that is derived from dividing the numerator by the denominator. For example, for a ratio of 50 percent, that'll be a fraction of one-half or one over two. If you divide two into one, you get .50, which is 50 percent. So you understand fractions and you understand ratios. In baseball, earned run average is a ratio. The numerator is the number of runs scored. The denominator is the number of innings pitched. You divide the denominator into the numerator and you get the earned run average. That's pretty much the way that works. The earned run average is the function of the number of earned runs given up for every nine innings pitched. Again, this is devrived from fractions and ratios.

There is a mathematical formula to determine what kind of chick you ought to be dating. Remember, the numerator is the top number and the denominator is the bottom number. It's a form of division where the numerator is divided by the denominator. The chick you want has the highest possible attractiveness level. Whatever number you use to determine that, that would be your numerator. The lowest possible self-esteem would be your denomenator. You divide a woman's attractiveness by her self-esteem and you get a ratio. And the higher that ratio, the more likely it is that you'll get laid by some hot chick. It's simple. It's ... mathematical.

The only thing better than my telling you this mathematical equation, is if a woman has no self-esteem at all. Because when you divide by zero, you get ... Infinity (echos in the backround). [Smile] That would be the ultimate. If her attractiveness level is that high and her self-esteem is that low, your ratio would be off the charts.

Guys, I'm telling you that you want women with the lowest possible self-esteem because they are so ... negative about themselves, that they'll even have sex with YOU! Remember, anytime people have low self-esteem, they'll have sex with anyone. I can prove it to you with men.

You know what, on second thought, let's talk about me for a second. Maybe what you're about to read is something that happened to you or someone you know. If so, then you can include yourself in this situation. When I found out that an ex-girlfriend of mine had been screwing a co-worker, she stonewalled and lied about it. Lied about it. Lied about it. Lied about it. Lied about it. And I kept gathering evidence. She kept denying it. I've talked to people who knew about it. She said they were lying. Everybody was lying and I was made to look as if I was crazy and controlling. Later she admitted that she had screwed around ... a few years later after the fact, but that's beside the point.

When I found that she had screwed around with a guy she worked with, and it ended our relationship, I went out and slept with every woman who said yes. Every ... one. Why? 'Cause I was feeling low (there goes that magic word).

Hot chicks, not-so-hot chicks, chicks I don't even want to THINK about. I don't want to remember the light coming on and seeing what I was with. It was AMAZING! I'm sure there are many guys out there who went through a similar experience after they've been thrown out the house or when you find out she's been cheating on you.

And you know what? Women are like that, too. Not only that, hot women have the lowest self-esteem. It is much easier to get a 10 than it is to get a 4 or a 5. Much easier. Much, much.

My research was based on experience. I have a lot of experience. I've tried all kinds of things out on women and they've tried out a number of things on me.

This was something that I had to figure out the hard way because many times as a kid, your parents did not give you all the information you needed.

Mine certainly didn’t.

And this leads back to the studies I presented in those links. High self-esteem girls do not feel the peer pressure as much as women with low self-esteem. Low self-esteem women give up, give in, and put out without that much effort put on your part. Women with high self-esteem will make you work for it. And work for it and work for it. And work for it. What guy want to deal with that? This is why women's magazines advise women on how to boost your self-esteem and how to keep it high. They don't want them feeling down about being sluts even though you and I know that they are. Who are they trying to kid?

Many years ago, I was women's ego booster. I made it a habit of complimenting them about their clothes, their opinions on certain topics and their personalities. Whenever I think back on it, it makes me want to yack! Aa-aa-aa-aa-aa-aa-ack! Little to no action in the sex department. Then I was taught on how to give back-handed compliments, didn't care about their opinions on things, didn't go out of my way to boost their egos and what have you. Lowered their self-esteem because I was the only guy not kissing their asses. That was something rare for them. They got on the defensive and started to validate themselves to me to make sure that I understood that they were worth something. They only way they knew how to do that was through sex. Got more ass than a toilet seat since then. As a matter of fact, I'm too scared to get tested! Boosting their confidence, empowering them, gives these women nothing to prove to me. Nothing. But if I don't give them the attention these whores constantly seek, then that's when desperate times call for desperate measures for them.

Can I tell you guys something? Men prey upon women for any number of reasons. Men talk with each other about give-away signs that indicates which women are more likely the ones to put out.

- Women who smoke cigarettes.
- Women who drink Jack Daniels.
- Women who do coke.
- Women who have tattoos.
- Women who dress in slutty outfits.

Men prey on ALL of them. Men are always looking for an edge, and they always prey upon women who are -- you guessed it -- vulnerable. That means low self-esteem. Women who go to bars by themselves on Valentines' Night is the perfect example. They are very vulerable, they are drowning in their sorrows because no guy asked them out, they are a depressed, they have low self-esteem, sipping on their apple martinis, "Woe, is me. Boo hoo hoo, no guy thinks my vagina is expensive", and they will give it up to you so that they feel that their night wasn't a complete waste of being alone. That's how they salvage that night. We're ultra vultures. Or as 'Lil Wayne would say, "ultra vol'chas". Looking for prey.

Something Detroit said that I didn't touch on that I agreed with was that older women lower their standards. That's right. That's because by the time they reach 30 or 35, they have lost their power and magic to win over as many guys as they did when they were younger. When the crow's feet start to show, men are not as interested. They lower their standards because they cannot get away with things as they did when they were younger. They cannot turn heads anymore like they did when they were 25 or 20 or 16 years old.
 
Posted by vice0999 (Member # 28268) on :
 
The JOI videos are my favorite. If I ever buy clips from a store those are the type that I buy. It's just something about being controlled by a woman's feet that really get me going. The fact that she is instructing you to jerk off while looking at her soles and her soles only makes me go nuts. I love how they take complete control of me with their feet. The name calling and humiliation factor doesn't bother me. They are just trying to say that their feet have complete control over you and you will do whatever they say for their feet. I love it. Being dominated by feet is such a turn on. It doesn't make me feel like a piece of shit, just a truly devoted slave to their feet. It is almost as if their feet put you in a trance and you just can't stop stroking.
 
Posted by skaramunga (Member # 11914) on :
 
National/Detroit -

If you guys are ever in the New York, Manhattan area, give me a call because you are two guys I would definitely hang out with! I think we share a lot of the same views when it comes to women.

National and Detroit, in addition to your points please allow me to say the following.

Statistically speaking, according to the U.S Census Bureau, in 2010 alone in terms of the total U.S. population, out of 308,745,538 people, 151,781,326 or 49.2 percent of the population was male and 156,964,212 or 50.8 percent of the population was female.

Now let's break this down further. In the 18-34 demographic, in 2010 men outnumbered women. There was roughly 42 million men to roughly 41 million women in this age group. However, after the age of 35, women started to outnumber men considerably. From 35-74 there was 73,997,455 women compared to 70,276,025 men.

So what does all this information tell us? From 18-34, women and men were pretty much neck and neck in terms of numbers. But as they age, in particular after the age of 35, they start to outnumber us. For men, as we get older, there becomes less of us. The numbers for men start to decline in the 35-39 age bracket and the trend continues all the way down to 99 years of age. This would indicate that once men hit their mid thirties, statistically speaking they have more women to choose from if you include both women in the 18-34 age rage and 35 and beyond as opposed to women who are in their mid thirties looking for a partner.

So provided all of this information, a woman is like a gallon of milk (aside from the fact that women have been commoditized for centuries). As a woman gets older, she starts approaching her expiration date in terms of her looks. Why? Because as they get older, their looks begin to fade and their numbers start to go up, meaning there starts to become more of them. What happens when a gallon of milk hits the expiration date? You throw it out right? At that point it's expired milk!

Women in general, have a very very short shelf life when it comes to their looks and I am just completely baffled at how some of them walk around with such heinous attitudes! I will say however there are a few older gallons of milk out there that are well past their expiration dates that do a good job of maintaining their looks (some do an exceptional job, such as the impeccable Janet Mason). But I guess they sort of have to if they want to stay relevant and compete against all of the other fresh gallons of milk that are walking around out there...

Here's a copy of the 2010 Census report http://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/briefs/c2010br-03.pdf
 
Posted by Kokaith (Member # 22763) on :
 
This thread is still going on?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdeLcsnubAk there's how I feel
 


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