Aw SHIT BANNED from FootNight and kicked off Clips4sale WOW and WOW!!!!
Ok many of you saw this post the other night before I took it down and emailed me personally.
Im doing my own clips store I will have my own private foot party LA and MIA (I have the spaces currently) Im launching my own website & TUBE (this tube is way dope all original foot fetish content) I have a foot model agency where you can book a foot model.
anyone and everyone interested in keeping up to date make it easy for all of us and email me direct that you are interested in (pick from above) trentd3000@gmail.com
I have clips available from the most hardcore and epic video shoot I've ever done WOW the positions and camera angels are what we've been waiting for. Im selling these without the big C4s commissions just hit me up subject NEW CLIPS and I will email you the download instructions.
Thank you
Trent D.
Posted by NorcalfeetStudios (Member # 732) on :
Banned from the Footnight Parties? Or their website? or what...
Posted by Patrick (Member # 1169) on :
Umm... ok? Guess I missed something.
Patrick
Posted by BareSoles84 (Member # 45910) on :
Glad to know I wasn't the only one perplexed by this thread. So you got banned from the parties or something? And you ventured out on your own? I don't get it.
Posted by Below the Ankles (Member # 33795) on :
What's going on?
Posted by Rocky TSM (Member # 28971) on :
I'm so confused right now.
Posted by Icarus (Member # 46711) on :
Where in MIA? I get to South Beach a couple times a year.
Posted by Rider Aldebaran (Member # 38525) on :
would love to see the tube site. Please post the link when it's up
Posted by eff (Member # 11277) on :
Whats goin on? I'm confused too!
(just wanted to join in and say it too )
Posted by Cain (Member # 8492) on :
I smell a scam artist
Posted by KlassFX (Member # 46337) on :
Michael, have you tried selling on C4S? Perhaps you haven't yet seen the difference.
Posted by Inspector General (Member # 48095) on :
quote:Originally posted by Cain: I smell a scam artist
Must have pulled some scam or maybe exploited some models to get booted from clips4sale and foot parties. Sounds like the blowhard braggadocio type.
Posted by Patrick (Member # 1169) on :
quote:Originally posted by Michael Pitt: tell me why clips4sale is better than just doing it yourself
Because hosting countless gigabyyes worth of data in numerous formats with an effective method of paying someone, sending an alert and/or link to download the file immediately (not waiting for someone to get around to checking for their mail two days later when you're not in jerk off mode anymore), among a few other things doesn't really work. This is coming from someone who doesn't do Clips4Sale, but I can totally see why people do it. If it was a waste, then there wouldn't be so many people copying the format or hosting their stores on it. To make money you have to pay money.
Patrick
P.S. Also forgot how prominent Clips4Sale shows up on search engines, how good their search features for stores, genres, kinks, and models works once on their site. People like to find everything in one place.
[ April 04, 2015, 09:41 PM: Message edited by: Patrick ]
Posted by KlassFX (Member # 46337) on :
There are certain advantages to running a C4S, running a BHE, selling direct. Each is applicable to a specific situation or goal.
Michael let me put it this way. You find a video, any video. Try to sell it direct on here. And I'll sell it on C4S. Who is going to sell more?
Situation 2. There was recently a site rip thread. Most of the people with full site rips available have BHE sites. How many of those are C4S? Why? C4S has more controls and protections in place against piracy.
Different scenario. You have foot models to pimp out. That's better off with your own site, social media or selling direct on here.
So it's not as simple as black and white C4S sucking. If you don't know how to use C4S, then yes it sucks.
But by now, it should be clear that there are different situations where one channel will likely do more for you than the other.
[ April 04, 2015, 10:19 PM: Message edited by: KlassFX ]
Posted by Rocky TSM (Member # 28971) on :
As much as I would like to use something other than C4S, the ease of use and unlimited file hosting is hard to beat. Losing 40% of all income sucks, but it's much easier than any other method I've found.
Posted by sonoma1 (Member # 46602) on :
Honestly, anyone setting up a C4S/BHE site with the end goal of rolling in cash and it becoming their sole (no pun intended) source of income is probably foolish. It can probably generate a few hundred or $1,200 bucks each month, but it becoming a solid $100K/yr venture is highly unlikely...
Posted by Patrick (Member # 1169) on :
quote:Originally posted by Michael Pitt: these days people check their email, twitter, or facebook page constantly and with smart phones we have constant internet access so sending out the email with a link to the vid shouldn't be much of a problem
i don't think their search engine is good, you type in "footjob" and literally hundreds of stores pop up, who has the time to sort through all of them to find the good stuff?
Email: I wish that was the case. I'm still waiting on two orders for clothing from online stores that haven't shipped items I've ordered. I think you place too much faith in people's promptness. I don't even get to all my emails all the time because I work a full time job, do freelance, do Wu's Feet Links, and Soles of Silk. So I disagree with you on this.
Search: So having to search through a few thousand stores on Clips4Sale is easier than going through those same few thousand stores and "hopefully" someone's random Twitter account or forum post to find a clip you're looking for? Unless you just so happen to be on that person's page and want to buy it, I think you're finding things on Clips4Sale easier.
Patrick
Posted by Patrick (Member # 1169) on :
quote:Originally posted by Michael Pitt: unlimited file hosting?
why not just keep the video on your hard drive and then upload it to a file sharing site when somebody places an order and than email them the link to the file?
it takes a few minutes to upload a file
i'm sure it's easier but for me personally i'd go through the minor inconvenience if it saved me 40% of my income
Anyone who has done server set up will shake their head at this. Is the mom and pop shops doing these clips running a high speed server with software to back it up because computer to computer transfer is not that fast. So if you have a few people wanting to download from you at once... you're screwed on speed big time! That's the truth.
Patrick
Posted by NorcalfeetStudios (Member # 732) on :
2 problems with C4S or I4S is the fact they automatically take out 30-40% and if your bank takes out for a wire transfer...there's another $10. So you're not making really ANYTHING off your hard work.
Second..and even worse, is the fact they report to the IRS how much money (BEFORE THEIR CUT) you "gross" so you end up having to pay taxes on all that you didn't even see. Good luck having enough write-off's or receipts at the end of the year to cover the amount. Officially, my I4S store is closing once I hit the mark before the 1099 kicks in..fuck them, it's not worth the hours and hours of specially filing and .ZIP folder creations, hours of uploading to servers, etc...for what I get out of it. Rather people came to my website instead.
But if you're wondering about their 'service' and reliability, it's actually top notch and 'mostly' headache free other than the financial aspects of it.
Posted by Rocky TSM (Member # 28971) on :
I can see where this guy is coming from saying it's more effective running your own site, but in most cases, that's just not a good option. I don't have a cell phone at all, just my computer. Not all of us have the ability to check our email constantly and uploading the files you need at the time the customer wants is hardly an easy task. And don't get me started on how long it takes to upload a video. Could take minutes, could take many hours.
For a small time hobbyist like myself, C4S and I4S are good enough.
Posted by Patrick (Member # 1169) on :
quote:Originally posted by Michael Pitt: how is any of this necessary? haven't you ever downloaded a porn off of rapidgator, megaupload, tubobit, hotfile etc?
all you do is upload the file to one of those sites and then email them the link
you don't have to worry about server set up
The way it looked, when I read it, was that you're saying to host it on a server yourself - like one dedicated for file sales in your house. If you're talking an outside server that other people run that you'll be making money off of and publishing adult content to, then you're opening up a whole other can of worms with 2257 laws and such.
I'm not saying it is impossible, but the amount of work you're asking someone to do is starting to add up to full time job levels.
Patrick
Posted by NorcalfeetStudios (Member # 732) on :
quote: full time job? how is that a lot of work, i wish my full time job was nothing more than responding to emails for foot videos i produced
Oh Mike...you have no idea how much work it is from start to finish. Posted by Patrick (Member # 1169) on :
quote:Originally posted by Michael Pitt: full time job? how is that a lot of work, i wish my full time job was nothing more than responding to emails for foot videos i produced
I'm saying that it's a full time job... so if you have one of those already - like I do, and many of us site producers also have, now you have two.
Like I said, I'm not knocking your idea or anything, I'm just saying it is a ton of work to do a work around. I can see why many people want to throw their stuff up and let the rest take care of itself. Even if this is a model/producer's full time gig, they need time to go out there and make the content and then digitize it (sometimes that takes a ton of time). Sitting around just answering emails all day so you don't have pissed off customers who want the video when they're ready to "enjoy it," isn't realistic.
Patrick
Posted by Patrick (Member # 1169) on :
By the way, did anyone ever figure out what the OP was talking about?
Patrick
Posted by KlassFX (Member # 46337) on :
quote:Originally posted by Patrick: By the way, did anyone ever figure out what the OP was talking about?
Patrick
Don't worry Patrick, I GOT THIS.
OP basically wants to sell feet videos/services and wants us to contact him via email if interested.
Posted by NorcalfeetStudios (Member # 732) on :
quote:Originally posted by KlassFX:
quote:Originally posted by Patrick: By the way, did anyone ever figure out what the OP was talking about?
Patrick
Don't worry Patrick, I GOT THIS.
OP basically wants to sell feet videos/services and wants us to contact him via email if interested.
A regular Einstein we got here...I knew we paid the smart Asian guy for something around here. j/k bro..but good job on the assessment.
Posted by Rider Aldebaran (Member # 38525) on :
quote:Originally posted by Patrick: By the way, did anyone ever figure out what the OP was talking about?
Patrick
What I want to know is what was in that other post that the OP mentioned.
Posted by Rocky TSM (Member # 28971) on :
quote:Originally posted by Rider Aldebaran:
quote:Originally posted by Patrick: By the way, did anyone ever figure out what the OP was talking about?
Patrick
What I want to know is what was in that other post that the OP mentioned.
Much like how many licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop, the world may never know.
Posted by Rider Aldebaran (Member # 38525) on :
quote:Originally posted by Rocky TSM:
quote:Originally posted by Rider Aldebaran:
quote:Originally posted by Patrick: By the way, did anyone ever figure out what the OP was talking about?
Patrick
What I want to know is what was in that other post that the OP mentioned.
Much like how many licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop, the world may never know.
Funnily enough, my sister actually tried that.
It took her over 1000 (I can't remember the exact number; and yes, she counted) to get there. Posted by Rocky TSM (Member # 28971) on :
A friend of mine had an assignment in one of her college classes that made her and the class try and it took them all about 1,000 licks per lollipop.
Posted by Martial Law (Member # 2564) on :
quote:Originally posted by Michael Pitt: tell me why clips4sale is better than just doing it yourself
Because they have a domain which is famous with a lot of us wankers, will have more bandwidth and better servers and probably will know more about coding a site than you.
To name but a few reasons a dumb shit layman like me could come up with Posted by NorcalfeetStudios (Member # 732) on :
quote:Originally posted by Martial Law:
quote:Originally posted by Michael Pitt: tell me why clips4sale is better than just doing it yourself
Because they have a domain which is famous with a lot of us wankers, will have more bandwidth and better servers and probably will know more about coding a site than you.
To name but a few reasons a dumb shit layman like me could come up with
Not too mention TRAFFIC...there's no way one of no name origin can market a store front well enough out "in space" better than I4S can for you.
Posted by NorcalfeetStudios (Member # 732) on :
They market you simply by hosting you..you can be found by a TON more surfers than you can on your own piece of real estate in the far reaches of the internet Kingdom. There are search features on C4S and I4S and as long as you (the studio producer) add the appropriate tags to your image set or video it will be seen.
Posted by Patrick (Member # 1169) on :
I wanted to find a foot fetish clip of Roxie Rae. I Googled her name and her main Clips4Sale store was at the top of the list. Didn't take me long to find out who I wanted.
I did a search for Lela Beryl footjob and Google showed me countless Clips4Sale store listings, with a link to particular video of Lela Beryl giving a footjob - each listing a DIFFERENT Clips4Sale store.
It really wasn't hard to find what I was looking for and all I used was Google. Clips4Sale topped the listings. As for blindly clicking things on Clips4Sale, yeah, that can be a pain. But so is doing the same on Amazon, eBay, etc. Why don't people just set up their own stores for those and cut out the middle man? Oh wait, for all the same reasons people use Clips4Sale. Like I said, it can be done your way, but for as easy as Clips4Sale makes posting and walking away from the file while it does the rest, I can totally understand the appeal.
Patrick
Posted by NorcalfeetStudios (Member # 732) on :
quote:i'm only interested in buying amateurs content so how else does an amateur get their name out there?
Why buy it when Social Media has plenty of free stuff guaranteed to get your rocks off. That's where all the "amateurs" are located, I've seen good enough stuff there if you just need a peek.
Posted by bluetoelover (Member # 14736) on :
I am able to see all sides of the argument personally. Michael Pitt's side I can see for sure. Me personally, I've typed in clips4sale.com and gotten a page of "clusterfuck". I had a half idea of who/what I was looking for so I was kind of half able to navigate it. You slap a newbie in there who has no clue who they are looking for, well, good fucking luck with them landing on your "site". So for me, Clips4Sale doesn't really "market" the sites unless like Mike Pitt said, you land in the top 5 "top sites". Good luck.
I also see NorCal's and Pat's side too, this ain't no god damn part time job. You're either in or your out. Simple as that. Go balls deep in it or not. You can choose to NOT be balls deep but in the end profits will suffer ( and you can sit there and spout off about how you are in it for the love of it blah blah blah). Clips4Sale has it going for them that they are the medium to which they provide the hook up of client and seller and provide an easy transfer of funds to purchase said goods(clips).
60/40 can be seen as not a good trade off but take a look at the average joes on say xhamster.com who upload like 10 clips averaging about 10 mins or more a clip and get NOTHING for it, just the pure joy of knowing dude's are jacking it to their old ladies feet. You take said 10 clips and upload em' for sale at C4S and BAM! You are up that much more for doing same thing except adding them to C4S.
Moral of the story, I see what you are saying Mike Pitt in terms of keeping tabs on emails saying they want number 12 clip and they will pay 10$ instead of say 20$ but in all reality most consumers out there will be jacking off at random times of the day/night and will request it at that time with dick in hand and will not want to wait even 5 mins for it let alone say an hour. Hence, the C4S model works well, yes they take a 40% cut but it's worth it in the long run based on maintenance and head aches.
Posted by Patrick (Member # 1169) on :
Advertising yourself on places like Wu's is just common sense. I don't think that has anything to do with the idea of Clips4Sale making things easy or charging too much. And I found Roxie through Twitter, to be honest. It wasn't Clips4Sale. My point is, once I found her and wanted to find more of her, I can easily do so and get what I want from Clips4Sale within the time it takes me to type my credit card information in and download the clip. And when I'm looking to get myself off, I'm not wanting to wait until someone emails me the next morning if it's 3 a.m. That's my major point.
Patrick
Posted by NorcalfeetStudios (Member # 732) on :
quote: And when I'm looking to get myself off, I'm not wanting to wait until someone emails me the next morning if it's 3 a.m. That's my major point.
At that rate you might as well be trying to pick the guys' girlfriend up at the bar, you'd get off that night rather than waiting til morning for that clip. lol!
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j/k bro..but good job on the assessment.
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