"All this for a flag?" Disgusting socialists.
Posted by Fair Adam (Member # 13350) on :
Dude, that video is at best, inconclusive, the kind of stuff that FOX likes to use to stir the pot of the weak minded, and besides, I thought this was a FOOT FETISH forum.
By your choice of networks, I could easily acuse you of being a right wing reactionary, but what do I know, right?
I honestly don't care who's a right wing wacko, or a left wing nut, if it's not about women's feet, it shouldn't be here. I'll be reporting this to a moderator.
I have spoken.
Posted by diamond johny (Member # 27586) on :
quote:Originally posted by Fair Adam: Dude, that video is at best, inconclusive, the kind of stuff that FOX likes to use to stir the pot of the weak minded, and besides, I thought this was a FOOT FETISH forum.
By your choice of networks, I could easily acuse you of being a right wing reactionary, but what do I know, right?
I honestly don't care who's a right wing wacko, or a left wing nut, if it's not about women's feet, it shouldn't be here. I'll be reporting this to a moderator.
I have spoken.
Um, I thought this was the Political forum? Also, I didn't come across this on Fox, the YT link was sent to me. I know lip reading isn't solid proof, but that's what it looks like to me.
Edit to ad: Adam, I've been a member of your site on several occasions & have nothing but respect for you & your work. If I offended you, I'm sorry. Keep in mind though, this is the Political Forum & politics can be a dirty business. So, as Harry S. Truman said, "If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen." Feel free to PM me anytime if you wish to discuss this matter in private in a civil fashion.
[ September 13, 2011, 09:58 PM: Message edited by: diamond johny ]
Posted by SuckYourToes? (Member # 3193) on :
quote:Originally posted by Fair Adam: I'll be reporting this to a moderator.
lol What a sore loser.
Why not report it to all the liberal tv stations (every network except FOX)?
I'm glad I'm not a member of your site, btw.
Posted by Fair Adam (Member # 13350) on :
quote:Originally posted by SuckYourToes?:
quote:Originally posted by Fair Adam: I'll be reporting this to a moderator.
lol What a sore loser. What did I lose?
Why not report it to all the liberal tv stations (every network except FOX)? Why don't you go and roast some smores with Ted Nugent?
I'm glad I'm not a member of your site, btw. Not as glad as I am
BTW, I love you too. Posted by omega2215 (Member # 37955) on :
quote:Originally posted by Fair Adam:
quote:Originally posted by SuckYourToes?:
quote:Originally posted by Fair Adam: I'll be reporting this to a moderator.
lol What a sore loser. What did I lose?
Why not report it to all the liberal tv stations (every network except FOX)? Why don't you go and roast some smores with Ted Nugent?
I'm glad I'm not a member of your site, btw. Not as glad as I am
BTW, I love you too.
You jumped all over his ass for posting in the wrong forum, and apparently reported it to moderators, when he in fact did post in the right forum.
Posted by Wrinklesguy (Member # 732) on :
Wow, Adam u ok man? That was totally not like you. Johnny, it appears that is what she said..who knows though.
Posted by Rider Aldebaran (Member # 38525) on :
So, what exactly is bad about socialism again? I see so many Conservatives bitch about it. Then again, they seem to bitch about anything that threatens the status quo, from what I see.
As for the flag situation... Well, there are times where you have to keep your thoughts to yourself. Sadly, looks like Michelle didn't get the memo.
Posted by Spruce314 (Member # 35412) on :
quote:Originally posted by Rider Aldebaran: So, what exactly is bad about socialism again? I see so many Conservatives bitch about it. Then again, they seem to bitch about anything that threatens the status quo, from what I see.
As for the flag situation... Well, there are times where you have to keep your thoughts to yourself. Sadly, looks like Michelle didn't get the memo.
Socialism on a local scale (fire dept, police dept etc) seems to work pretty well. Socialism on a large national scale (Postal Service, Social Security, Medicare etc) which is controlled by a distant central government full of bureaucracy is well proven not to work well or efficiently.
As for the Obamas 2012 can't come quickly enough. Clearly it was change we did not need!
Posted by Rider Aldebaran (Member # 38525) on :
Can't really change much when the GOP cockblocks nearly everything he tries to do. The problem is that the Democrats don't seem to fight hard enough for their causes, and let the GOP walk all over them and what they believe would benefit the country more.
Plus, at this point, I doubt the GOP has anyone good enough to challenge and beat Obama in 2012. Especially when we have people like Bachmann and Perry in the running.
Posted by SuckYourToes? (Member # 3193) on :
Yeah, that democratic majority of both houses of Congress for 2 years at the beginning of Obumble's term was cockblocking. Give us all some of what you're smoking, dude.
The democrats agenda is simple:
1)confiscate as much as possible from the highest 10% of wage earners
2)get more and more people reliant on the govt tit thereby ensuring themselves an ever larger voting base, and with it, political power
Wise the hell up, genius.
Posted by oneagain (Member # 35859) on :
This reminds me of when I was a kid, my aunt told me to never discuss: Sex Religion Politics
Posted by Wrinklesguy (Member # 732) on :
quote: So, what exactly is bad about socialism again?
That is has failed everytime it's been tryed on a national level..and this country is too broke. Oh and, the free market {u know that thing that helps put food on your grocery store shelves and gas in the pumps} was built on Capitolism and free market, not greedy big business though don't confuse the two.
Posted by Rider Aldebaran (Member # 38525) on :
quote:Originally posted by SuckYourToes?: Yeah, that democratic majority of both houses of Congress for 2 years at the beginning of Obumble's term was cockblocking. Give us all some of what you're smoking, dude.
The democrats agenda is simple:
1)confiscate as much as possible from the highest 10% of wage earners
2)get more and more people reliant on the govt tit thereby ensuring themselves an ever larger voting base, and with it, political power
Wise the hell up, genius.
What, common sense? Sure, I'd be glad to share that.
Yeah, the Democrats had the majority, but the problem is that they kept getting bulldozed by the GOP minority and folding to the GOP's wishes. Like the health care issue; I still can't believe that America is pretty much the only first-world country that does not have universal health care. That's a massive fail right there, as not everyone can afford health insurance, especially not in the current economy and with all the other things we have to pay for.
On your other points:
1. I honestly do feel that taxes should be increased a bit on the rich. I mean, if they're rich, then they should have no problem paying a little extra, since it won't make a dent in their income. Stop with the taxcuts for the corporations as well.
2. Oh, like the GOP doesn't try to increase its voter-base. But I'd rather have the Democrats instead of the GOP, who keep proving themselves to be out of touch with the real world. ...Not that the Democrats are innocent of that either, but the GOP seems more out-of-touch.
Bare in mind that I'm a moderate, but I lean more towards the Democrat/Liberal side of the political scale. While I have praised the Democrats a bit, the truth is that I feel that the whole government is messed up almost beyond repair at this point.
quote:Originally posted by Wrinklesguy:
quote: So, what exactly is bad about socialism again?
That is has failed everytime it's been tryed on a national level..and this country is too broke. Oh and, the free market {u know that thing that helps put food on your grocery store shelves and gas in the pumps} was built on Capitolism and free market, not greedy big business though don't confuse the two.
Too bad much of our government is too much in the pockets of corporations to do anything about it. At this point, I honestly feel that this country may in fact implode on itself within the next few years because nothing seems to be getting done about this situation.
Posted by diamond johny (Member # 27586) on :
quote:Originally posted by Wrinklesguy: [QB] [QUOTE] So, what exactly is bad about socialism again?
Big Brother is here & watching, folks.
Posted by SuckYourToes? (Member # 3193) on :
quote:Originally posted by Rider Aldebaran: Yeah, the Democrats had the majority, but the problem is that they kept getting bulldozed by the GOP minority and folding to the GOP's wishes. Like the health care issue; I still can't believe that America is pretty much the only first-world country that does not have universal health care. That's a massive fail right there, as not everyone can afford health insurance, especially not in the current economy and with all the other things we have to pay for.
On your other points:
1. I honestly do feel that taxes should be increased a bit on the rich. I mean, if they're rich, then they should have no problem paying a little extra, since it won't make a dent in their income. Stop with the taxcuts for the corporations as well.
2. Oh, like the GOP doesn't try to increase its voter-base. But I'd rather have the Democrats instead of the GOP, who keep proving themselves to be out of touch with the real world. ...Not that the Democrats are innocent of that either, but the GOP seems more out-of-touch.
Bare in mind that I'm a moderate, but I lean more towards the Democrat/Liberal side of the political scale. While I have praised the Democrats a bit, the truth is that I feel that the whole government is messed up almost beyond repair at this point.
50% of people who file federal tax returns in the U.S. pay zero! That's your idea of common sense? Truly laughable. I can just see your retort: "But they don't make enough." Yet the majority make enough to have a cellphone (91% of the U.S. population owns one), almost all have cable/satellite tv, don't forget the big screen plasmas or LCDs hanging in their living rooms, and the 22 inch rims on their pimpmobiles. But they pay nothing in taxes, and therefore, should have absolutely no say in voting for the party that professes to give them even more breaks and/or handouts. Talk about a massively corrupt idea. And one born out of typically twisted liberal ideology.
You mention the GOP being "out of touch". But nobody's more out of touch than the party that promotes us becoming even more of a welfare state. "Vote for us, you lowest common denominators, and we'll gladly pass tax reform and put more of THEIR money into YOUR pocket." An excellent common sense idea, just ask any leech on society, no doubt they'll agree 100%.
The saying "paying your fair share" means one has to cover ALL their own/family's expenses - not just personal, but any benefit from services on the local, state, and national level; and that's being as non-political about it as one can be. It doesn't mean that we should rape the small business owner or the doctor down the street for just another $50 or 70K a year, because afterall, they can afford a "little more". If people want healthcare, pay for it. If you want to eat, pay for it. But do it with your own money - the money you earned at one, two, or however many jobs it takes for you to be self-sufficient.
Posted by Wrinklesguy (Member # 732) on :
Well said Suck...
Posted by diamond johny (Member # 27586) on :
quote:Originally posted by Wrinklesguy: Well said Suck...
It's too bad we can't give rep points.
Posted by kingler (Member # 40920) on :
quote:Originally posted by Spruce314: Socialism on a large national scale (Postal Service, Social Security, Medicare etc) which is controlled by a distant central government full of bureaucracy is well proven not to work well or efficiently.
Proof?
I've lived in many countries in my currently short life and I've never, ever found a problem when postal services, medical services are performed by the government to some degree.
I don't know what it is with this, mostly, US-based mentality.
In the UK we pay a similar level of tax to some US states, which seems to cover everything just fine. The papers like to throw up problems but the people here are chugging along just fine. One time I broke my arm, I didn't pay a penny. Another time I needed some 6 month long health care, again I didn't pay a penny.
Whilst the NHS is good it can be slow. One time I found a lump and instead of "not paying a penny" I took the other option - paid for private healthcare. It wasn't anything serious and they treated it quickly.
This is what I don't understand. When you have options - where is the problem?
I've settled in the UK now because they've got pretty much everything right in terms of a balance between socialism and capitalism. I'm able to run a successful business and not be taxed to oblivion. Sure I'd have a bit more money if I ran it from the US... but the quality of life is great here and I'm earning more than enough for a very comfy life.
Greed isn't good.
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As for the Michelle Obama thing. Is that really what she's saying? These are highly intelligent people. Why would she say something to jeopardize her future and her husbands career in such a *very* public situation?
Posted by Spruce314 (Member # 35412) on :
quote:Originally posted by kingler:
quote:Originally posted by Spruce314: Socialism on a large national scale (Postal Service, Social Security, Medicare etc) which is controlled by a distant central government full of bureaucracy is well proven not to work well or efficiently.
Proof?
I've lived in many countries in my currently short life and I've never, ever found a problem when postal services, medical services are performed by the government to some degree.
I don't know what it is with this, mostly, US-based mentality.
In the UK we pay a similar level of tax to some US states, which seems to cover everything just fine. The papers like to throw up problems but the people here are chugging along just fine. One time I broke my arm, I didn't pay a penny. Another time I needed some 6 month long health care, again I didn't pay a penny.
Whilst the NHS is good it can be slow. One time I found a lump and instead of "not paying a penny" I took the other option - paid for private healthcare. It wasn't anything serious and they treated it quickly.
This is what I don't understand. When you have options - where is the problem?
I've settled in the UK now because they've got pretty much everything right in terms of a balance between socialism and capitalism. I'm able to run a successful business and not be taxed to oblivion. Sure I'd have a bit more money if I ran it from the US... but the quality of life is great here and I'm earning more than enough for a very comfy life.
Greed isn't good.
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As for the Michelle Obama thing. Is that really what she's saying? These are highly intelligent people. Why would she say something to jeopardize her future and her husbands career in such a *very* public situation?
I'm glad to hear from someone who lives in a country with universal healthcare. I had heard that it tended to be slow and antiquated compared to traditional private care. In my travels to Canada and Italy I noticed considerably higher gas prices than here in the US. Also, Canada has a flat 15% tax (at least Ontario) on every purchase. Somehow "free" government programs have to be paid for.
Okay, back on topic. That's what gets me about the Obamas. Before the election and since they can do no wrong in the medias eyes.
Posted by Andy-Laa (Member # 31511) on :
quote:Originally posted by Wrinklesguy:
quote: So, what exactly is bad about socialism again?
That is has failed everytime it's been tryed on a national level..and this country is too broke. Oh and, the free market {u know that thing that helps put food on your grocery store shelves and gas in the pumps} was built on Capitolism and free market, not greedy big business though don't confuse the two.
Please note: this is neither an opinion for or against Socialism or Capitalism:
The "Free Market" is a mish-mash *of* Socialism and Capitalism. It wasn't built *on* capitalism at all.
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