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Originally posted by footjoyboy:
What may be considered incorrect today may be acceptable in the future; that's how languages change and evolve.

Judgment used to be judgement.
Color is still colour in many places.
Phraseology works the same way.

_fjb_

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Originally posted by LeDaemon:
Tee hee!

Personally I hate when people want to "AX" me a question.

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Originally posted by Hal:
Thanks for your replies, guys.

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Originally posted by footjoyboy:
What may be considered incorrect today may be acceptable in the future; that's how languages change and evolve.

Judgment used to be judgement.
Color is still colour in many places.
Phraseology works the same way.

_fjb_

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I think I once read that quite a few words in American English were changed because Noah Webster (the guy who published the first American dictionary in the early 19th century) wasn`t too fond of the British and "the King`s English". So he changed the English language by simplifying the spelling of certain words (colour/color, etc). It was his way of emancipating himself from the British crown.
I believe in the UK you would still write judgement and colour.


I don`t think grammatical mistakes (meaning whole sentence structures) are ever going to be "dictionary" correct. But please correct me if I´m wrong.


In German we have a similar "problem". The correct phrase would be "groesser als" (translated: "bigger than") but loads of people say "groesser wie" ("bigger as").
Even though half the German nation uses the grammatically incorrect phrase (since a few decades) it is still incorrect and would count as a written mistake in a school exam.

-Hal-

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To further expand on RPM's (excellent) reply - one of the things that exacerbates the wrongful use of "should of" by functionally-literate adults in this country, is the common written contraction of the word / expression:

"Should've" ... it's a grammatically correct and acceptable, written use of the phrase, and further mimics the sound of "should of".

Incidentally, your German paralel is a good one.
 

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Posted by russ (Member # 10866) on :
 
i actually heard that "ax" is a proper way of pronouncing "ask" because the original spelling was "aks."

I can't remember the entire backstory but i heard it on an NPR program called "way with words."
 

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Posted by Salvy_Mic (Member # 13384) on :
 
I hate it when people ask "how come?" I don't know why, it just irritates me. The worst for me is chatspeak. That, I absolutely loathe. To this day, I always chat or AIM with proper grammar and pronounciation, unless I'm spelling out a word that I use in real life casual speak, like "gonna" for instance, or when I shorten words that end in "-ing" into "-in'". I do it on purpose to give the illusion that I chat the way I talk.
 

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Posted by perfectpeds (Member # 29295) on :
 
I see I have arrived late to this thread and am not surprised to see that those participating are members who have always expressed themselves in full, complete, gramatically correct and punctuated sentences!

Le Daemon brings up another good point. I must agree that whether or not it originated as "aks" it has not been spelled that way since I have been around (and that's starting to be a very long time)and have never seen it or heard it that way. Ask and you shall receive! Ax and you'll be a few inches shorter!

Ben and RPM have given great feedback and examples for the reason some people may say "should of" instead of the correct "should have". I believe some of this stems from the new way of teaching in some of the schools. I know I was shocked when I found out that instead of teaching the correct spelling of a word from day 1, they were teaching phonetic pronunciation instead and it was acceptable for the child to write "mission" as "mishun".

I also agree with Salvy_Mic that the IM, AIM, test messaging and such only serves to decrease the individuals knowledge of correct grammar, spelling etc. Everyone laughs at me because I have trouble writing any other way than in full sentences. Thank God I have unlimited texting on my phone! LOL

bluetoelover, you make me laugh. I didn't even need to see the translation and knew exactly what you were asking! LOL I must say Bostonians butcher the English language on a daily basis if not with running words together, with our unique "accent" LOL

fjb - you are right that language does change and that perhaps in the future it may be perfectly acceptable to say "I axed you didj jeet yet? LOL

OK - I guess I've rambled on enough here!

"gotta go!"
 

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Posted by FootLongSub Zero (Member # 19380) on :
 
I use 'should of' but should have used should have' but 'should of' sounds more natural to me than 'should have'. I'll try to use 'should have' next time instead of 'should of'. So if you see me use 'should of' instead of 'should have' then correct me please by sayin' you should have use 'should have' and should not have used 'should of'
 

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Posted by Hal (Member # 3484) on :
 




-Hal-
 

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Posted by footjoyboy (Member # 26478) on :
 
Thanks perfectpeds, but I hope it never gets that bad.


 

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Posted by footjoyboy (Member # 26478) on :
 
Thanks Hal; Ben also makes a good point- the "should of" probably stems from "should've".

(strange, but my spell check under lined 'should've', hmmm)
 

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Posted by Toetapper (Member # 6473) on :
 

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(strange, but my spell check under lined 'should've', hmmm)

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I have a standard retort for that, as it is one of my least favorite things to hear:

Question: Hey I need to AX you a question

Reply: Sure, let me see if I can chop down an answer for you.

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Too funny Ben, can I use this? Also, good catch on the "should of" vs "should've thing. My, you are a cunning linguist!
 

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Posted by Ben Del Amitri (Member # 2724) on :
 

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I have a standard retort for that, as it is one of my least favorite things to hear:

Question: Hey I need to AX you a question

Reply: Sure, let me see if I can chop down an answer for you.

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Too funny Ben, can I use this? Also, good catch on the "should of" vs "should've thing. My, you are a cunning linguist!

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Ben, you put a joke into my head that I cannot seem to exorcise but to tell it:

Q: What is the difference between a tribe of pygmies and a women's track team?

A: The pygmies are a bunch of cunning runts.

Thank you. Good night and enjoy the buffet!

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LMMFAO!
 

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Posted by FootLover36 (Member # 22908) on :
 
Yeah I frequently come across people writing 'should of' instead of writing should've. I'm not sure why this is a common mistake, but a fair number of people seem to make it.

I've also seen people confusing words which sound similar/the same. For example, some people may get 'our' and 'are' mixed up. That one is not so frequent, but 'there' , they're and 'their' are 3 words that often get mixed up.
 

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Posted by diamond johny (Member # 27586) on :
 
I grew up in the midwest originally & a lot of people pronounce the word "wash" as "warsh". It always drove me fuckn' nuts.
 

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Posted by JKO12 (Member # 30609) on :
 
Doesent Germany change their grammer and spelling evry few years ? because since I learned it it has changed and that was not that long ago
 

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Posted by Salvy_Mic (Member # 13384) on :
 

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Originally posted by diamond johny:
I grew up in the midwest originally & a lot of people pronounce the word "wash" as "warsh". It always drove me fuckn' nuts.

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Originally posted by JKO12:
Doesent Germany change their grammer and spelling evry few years ? because since I learned it it has changed and that was not that long ago

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