So last night i'm out in Old Town Scottsdale at one of the more trendy bars in town. The crowd is young and beautiful. The first person my buddy and I saw was this beautiful brunette wearing glasses with a look much like my childhoood cartoon crush Baroness from Gi Joe! http://www.the-isb.com/images/Baroness24.jpg
She was with another pretty girl, but she wasn't as striking as the curvacious brunette standing next to her. So I start chatting with the Baroness look alike only to find that she was the mother of the not so hot girl! The most attractive woman at the bar IMHO was 47 years old. 20 years my senior. I've hooked up with older women in their mid 30s but never in there 40's. I'm kicking myself now for not asking her out for a drink. Geez. She could teach me so much!
Have you guys ever encountered MILFS that were so hot they eclipsed their daughters? Her daughter was hot too...but I can tell that mom always gets more attention and she was a little annoyed.
Posted by LeDaemon (Member # 198) on :
That seems to be my younger brother's territory as well. He's in his early 30's, but always dates older gals in their 40's. All of them work out in the gym, eat right and generally take good care of themselves looking younger than their years. His current girlfriend was a former cheerleader and is in great shape. My brother himself is the tall good looking blond haired blue eyed bastard that works out in the gym 5 days a week and wears Versace. I've always wondered what the attraction for him to these ladies was and he says its mature conversation.
Posted by Five For Feet (Member # 33596) on :
I once dated a girl who's mother drove me crazy she was so hot. And she had the hottest looking feet!
GQ, I would've (there's that word again) thought you'd be all over that.
Posted by Robotron2084 (Member # 33263) on :
It's happened to me before (and she had sexy legs and feet) and I sometimes kick myself, but I (have always) prefer an older woman myself. They can teach you a lot for sure (if you are ready for it), but they know how to keep their drama in check a bit better than younger women.
Posted by Cain (Member # 8492) on :
There is one at work now that just got hired that has to be in her forties and she drives me nuts because she is so sexy and to top it off she has amazing feet. Its nice when women take care of themselves like that.
Posted by bluetoelover (Member # 14736) on :
Take my case for example, I have been dating my girl for about 5 years now, her mom from day 1 has been smoking hot! Total package, eyes,body,feet not to mention a great personality/sense of humor!
I can't not with a sane mind compare her to her daughter though, I can't replace that love just for a lust, but man if I had not met my girl and just met her mom in a bar or something... Posted by Michael P (Member # 1922) on :
i'm 26 and some 48 year old lady yesterday tells me out of nowhere that I look like her brother did 20 years ago
I said "your brother must have been a really cool guy" she laughed and said yes he was
she told me that i look young yet knowledgeable, spot on in my humble opinion
the next thing she tells me is that recently some 28 year old guy that has a thing for cougars fell in love with her but she had to break it off because of the age difference
i don't know why she started talking to me, if she had interest i think that's kinda weird since I supposedly look like her brother once did, i feel like she was qualifying herself somewhat by bringing up the younger guy into older women like herself
it really doesn't matter anyways, she looked ok for 48 but that's like looking average at 20
i'm not into anybody that old anyways, it was just a random thing that kinda makes you wonder what was going on
as for mothers looking better than their daughters, i can't say i've seen many of those, if anything most of the hot girls i know had mothers that were fat
Posted by The_Foot_Pub (Member # 35500) on :
I wouldn't mind the occasional milf, but I prefer the younger ones. The older ladies can be jealous of them because they get more male attention than women their ages. They try everything to stay young (who can blame them?). But I want the original product, the original fresh meat that's riper.
When I get older, I'll still go for the younger ones.
Posted by the_foot_fetishist (Member # 30029) on :
quote:Originally posted by Michael P: as for mothers looking better than their daughters, i can't say i've seen many of those, if anything most of the hot girls i know had mothers that were fat
quote:Originally posted by The_Foot_Pub: I wouldn't mind the occasional milf, but I prefer the younger ones. The older ladies can be jealous of them because they get more male attention than women their ages. They try everything to stay young (who can blame them?). But I want the original product, the original fresh meat that's riper.
When I get older, I'll still go for the younger ones.
That's why the younger ones are the way to go. It's funny how some people just let go of themselves and become fat. I don't understand how one can let that happen.
Posted by Michael P (Member # 1922) on :
quote:Originally posted by the_foot_fetishist:
quote:Originally posted by Michael P: as for mothers looking better than their daughters, i can't say i've seen many of those, if anything most of the hot girls i know had mothers that were fat
quote:Originally posted by The_Foot_Pub: I wouldn't mind the occasional milf, but I prefer the younger ones. The older ladies can be jealous of them because they get more male attention than women their ages. They try everything to stay young (who can blame them?). But I want the original product, the original fresh meat that's riper.
When I get older, I'll still go for the younger ones.
That's why the younger ones are the way to go. It's funny how some people just let go of themselves and become fat. I don't understand how one can let that happen.
agreed
why would a younger guy want somebody old enough to be his mom? mommy issues? being somewhat taboo maybe turns them on more?
i might have been attracted to a woman old enough to be my mom when i was a teen, but as a teen i was dumb, insecure, and inexperienced
much more submissive than i am now, i would've wanted a woman to take charge back then due to my immaturity
now that i'm 26 i don't see the appeal
i used to think that age was just a number but i think there is a huge physical difference between a 20 year old and a 40 year old, i like a natural look and natural gray hair is just gross
i don't know how being old means being better in bed, not everybody gets better with experience, heck some people keep doing the same thing that doesn't work because nobody has the balls to tell them they are doing it wrong
what can they teach me that i don't already know? sex isn't exactly rocket science
besides i don't need a chick to do much to get me off anyways
look hot, i'll do my thing, and call it a night
college girls for me Posted by Andy-Laa (Member # 31511) on :
quote:Originally posted by Michael P: why would a younger guy want somebody old enough to be his mom? mommy issues? being somewhat taboo maybe turns them on more?
Well you could argue the same for why would a slightly older guy likes girls young enough to be his daughter? I mean...you just don't think about "Oh she's the age of my mum...so I obviously want to fuck my mum," do you? Similarly for younger girls.
I never got the obsession with younger girls (to me, they're girls my age) as...SLIGHTLY older women are more developed, refined and, the point you mentioned: more mature. It's annoying to me that girls my age seem to act so much more immature than me. Hence older girlfriends. Furthermore, some girls don't fully, physically develop until they're like 25-30.
Cut-off age for me would generally be around 35 I suppose.
**NB I understand the whole "young, fit mother" caveman urge for girls below a certain age, but times have moved on from "spreading the seed"...for most...and being in a relationship is quite different to a one-off fuck (mature conversation etc)...maybe that's why I like older women...plus, it's true the taboo is somewhat titillating...can you say you've never had a fantasy about fucking the "hot teacher" in school or whatever?
[ July 19, 2009, 05:29 PM: Message edited by: Andy-Laa ]
Posted by Michael P (Member # 1922) on :
yeah i had fantasies about teachers when i was an insecure teen
sexual attraction comes down to breeding, subconsiosuly the people we think look attractive would produce strong healthy kids
younger girls are much more fit for breeding than some lady in her 40's so it makes sense for men to like college aged chicks
Posted by Five For Feet (Member # 33596) on :
If she's hot, she's hot - 24 or 42. Why contemplate how well she breeds, or what she can or cannot "teach" you? Don't psych yourself out of it just because she's crossed some self-imposed age barrier. If she turns you, just hit it!
Posted by Andy-Laa (Member # 31511) on :
quote:Originally posted by Michael P: younger girls are much more fit for breeding than some lady in her 40's so it makes sense for men to like college aged chicks
I didn't say 40 years old.
Posted by Andy-Laa (Member # 31511) on :
quote:Originally posted by Five For Feet: If she's hot, she's hot - 24 or 42. Why contemplate how well she breeds, or what she can or cannot "teach" you? Don't psych yourself out of it just because she's crossed some self-imposed age barrier. If she turns you, just hit it!
Some people are to shallow to overlook that...maybe they can't handle a real woman...have to go out with impressionable fuck-dolls to define themselves and make themselves seem superior...
Posted by Michael P (Member # 1922) on :
quote:Originally posted by Five For Feet: If she's hot, she's hot - 24 or 42. Why contemplate how well she breeds, or what she can or cannot "teach" you? Don't psych yourself out of it just because she's crossed some self-imposed age barrier. If she turns you, just hit it!
people on a subconscious level contemplate how well a person breeds
good looks are a sign of being healthy, people aren't just turned off by obese people because they look bad, they look unhealthy too and this makes us think subconsicously that they aren't fit for breeding
it doesn't matter whether you want kids or not, we are physically attracted to people we feel would produce healthy kids, that's how we are wired
i'm attracted to youthful looks, something a 42 year old rarely has
for every demi moore, there is a million 42 year olds that look like they are 42 years old
Posted by Michael P (Member # 1922) on :
quote:Originally posted by Andy-Laa:
quote:Originally posted by Five For Feet: If she's hot, she's hot - 24 or 42. Why contemplate how well she breeds, or what she can or cannot "teach" you? Don't psych yourself out of it just because she's crossed some self-imposed age barrier. If she turns you, just hit it!
Some people are to shallow to overlook that...maybe they can't handle a real woman...have to go out with impressionable fuck-dolls to define themselves and make themselves seem superior...
LOL and what makes you think you are in a position to put down anybody? having a 19 year old "e-girlfriend"?
and on what planet is a woman fucking around with guys half her age considered a "real woman"?
wouldn't a "real woman" be settled down at that point or be more interested in a guy that she can relate with, like a guy that is close to her age, not some young guy using her for sex?
i think a middle aged woman fucking around with young guys is more likely to be mentally unstable than anything
[ July 20, 2009, 02:53 PM: Message edited by: Michael P ]
Posted by Andy-Laa (Member # 31511) on :
quote:Originally posted by Michael P: i think a middle aged woman fucking around with young guys is...
Yeah...yet again...I didn't say middle-aged, Mikey-boy.
Posted by Michael P (Member # 1922) on :
since the thread was closed i'll respond here
Originally posted by Michael P: when you argue with a fool, you become a fool yourself
quote:Especially when the fool presents evidence you can't dispute with your opinion, eh? Solution: don't respond and make up some excuse as to why you haven't.
neother you or her presented any such "evidence" just rambling on about nothing on a topic neither of you can ever understand
quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- i like how you are dodging gqguy's post, it shows your "e-vendetta" against me, along with your sig --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I like how you dodged mine. You know the one where you said "his posts in this thread should be ignored"?
quote:Hehe I bet you don't like that I found a moment of weakness in one of your posts; a pathetic attempt to save face when you've clearly lost. It's just a favourite quote of mine is all. Can't help it.
Like I've said before, I have no opinions of you particularly one way or the other, I just like to show you up in your twisting of words as much as I can to show people that...well...let them make up their minds
I do admit to a slight of twisted pleasure that you get so worked up by being proven wrong though...guilty pleasure I suppose.
And I didn't see his post - I'll check it out now.
lol it's funny how you claim to be "winning" our arguments meanwhile numerous people in pm's are telling me exactly what i'm telling you on this forum, you are clueless
as for your "twisted pleasure" you respond to all of my posts because me pointing out the simple fact that people use facebook for dating really hurt you for some odd reason, it's something you can't get over hence the vendetta
and you 'didn't see' gqguy's posts because you are obsessed with my posts, you only look for mine and can't wait to hear what i say next, in your mind i'm the howard stern of wu's, you don't like me but you have to hear what i say next quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- maybe i'll post a "you're so hot i love your pics" comment in one of your 11879494 pic threads where you are seeking male attention, then you'll think i'm a decent guy, right?
quote:Or maybe make SOME sort of contribution to the boards that isn't just disagreeing with things wherever possible. Basically our relationship, make what you will of it, has produced more to the boards than you have.
what have you contributed? being just another guy that drools over every girl here? i used to do the same back in 2004 - 05 when i wasn't as good at getting women and i was much more interested in the women that posted here, you seem to disagree with quite a few things said here
just because you and a few others that whine to the mods don't like me doesn't mean others don't, post pics that i like and maybe i'll post positive comments
quote:ps i've heard the "you're an asshole douchebag" line before from women and guess who they eventually ended up having sex with --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Annnnnd I wonder where they are now
kicked to the curb by me, why would i stick with one girl when i can have many
quote:You create a fake person who's not you in order to be popular. Yes this may appeal to people not very popular when they were younger (such as Michael P - I'm not having a go - he said himself he was an "insecure teen"), but I just don't see the appeal. Unless you're a power-hungry maniac, why do you need to fake your way through life?
You can't be truly "alpha" if you have to follow a guide - you can only act it. That's all I was saying. How long can you keep the act up though?
this is why i say your posts should be ignored but i'm in a mood to enlighten you
you feel that a person can't learn new things and grow, not everybody "follows a guide" infact i think the guides don't help much, you need role models and you need to see in person how they get things done
as a teen i had insecurities like all teens, i did ok but i wanted to take things to the next level, which is a trait of all successful people
once you refuse to learn you stop growing, if a guy does something really stupid that causes a breakup and he learns from the experience, is he "acting" when he has a new girl and knows that what he did last time didn't work, so he does something different? hell no it's not acting, it's called learning and grwoing from experience
you seem to refuse to learn and you can't tell me you are 100% happy by having a girlfriend that lives on another continent, you say your life is where you want it, i say that's something you tell yourself to sleep better at night
if you call that an ideal situation i'm calling you a liar
Posted by GQguy (Member # 16534) on :
Geez guys. That last thread was one of the best i've seen in a while. Don't ruin another thread with this bickering. PM each other and continue the personal attacks there. Both of you bring up excellent points and are very incitefull. Keep that stuff here.
I doubt you guys realize this but there are numerous guys that read these post but never post themselves. "Lurkers". Many of these guys benefit from our "intellectual" convos. Keep it up and take care of one another. We understand stand each other in a way that family and friends never really could...despite being miles apart.
GQguy
Posted by Michael P (Member # 1922) on :
quote:So your defending what you're saying by saying "you don't get it"...that's...yeah I've said it before: pathetic.
yes you don't get it, pathetic is a guy that calls a girl he's never met his girlfriend
quote:Okay then - you're wrong, Mike; you can't ever understand it.
no i will never understand the mindset of a guy that calls someone he's never met his girlfriend
quote:]"I like how you dodged mine.
your post was just rambling about something you don't get
quote: While apparently many want you off this forum...yeah(!)
i speak the truth, many people can't handle the truth so that make me "hateable"
quote:No. It just fascinated me that people seemed to be beaten by your ridiculously incorrect arguments; the online thing was just the first oppourtunity I had to confront you. And no you didn't say it quite like that - let's not outright lie. You said every single person who has an online profile will use it for online dating.
yes every single person with a public profile is open to online dating, if that hurts you i don't know how you handle everyday life
quote: I have said this all the way through our little "war" that I love a good debate. You're good practice for me for my History studies. To call it an obsession is a bit of a leap even for you who does the same with my posts, even ones not addressed to or about you (look further back on this very thread (The "milfs" one)
I don't know who Howard Stern is btw.
you say on this forum you love a debate, i tried to take this to pm and you said you didn't want to talk about it, me thinks you are showing off to your e-girlfriend trying to make you look alpha in her eyes lol
and you are also whining to the mods to have me banned, you are a fraud
as for howard stern, you wouldn't like him because he speaks the truth just like me
quote:
I don't get the relevance here...I was saying that for the boards, my relationship has contributed so much more than you have and you talk about how you used to drool over the girls (and imply that's what I'm like now?)
i never would've noticed you were here until you started following me around the forum after i said people use facebook for dating, i don't see what you contribute, your girl posting pics is her contribution, not yours
quote: I didn't say anything to the moderators. I wasn't asking you to post; you criticised *my* posts of my girlfriend saying they were cheap attempts to get attention of guys when...well *I'm* the one who posts them: the pictures are for me from her and I decided that Wu's is allowed to see SOME of them.
supposedly many people are whining and saying i should be banned, you're the only one that regularly whines about my posts so i find it hard to believe you aren't crying for my ban
quote:
It's really not a talent to pick up bar-slags for one-night-stands is all I meant; they're out there, now picking up yet more guys in bars and getting their drinks paid for by guys like you willing to make the effort.
who say they were from a bar? i rarely drink and i rarely go to bars, they were regular chicks i met through school and work
even if they were from bars, it's still more respectable than calling someone you've never met your girlfriend, at least they aren't forced to use cyber sex lol
it's funny how you've convinced yourself that jerking off is better than being with actual women, even if they are bar skanks
whatever helps you sleep better
quote: I don't need to learn how to socialise - that's what I'm saying! I've read, even put into practice PUA (this is just an example) and it was a great feeling...for a week. It felt so fake and cold. Same reasoning being "alpha".
Here's a good example: you know those high-end businessmen who are what you would call "alpha"? A huge percentage of them are into sadomasochism in the bedroom...and they aren't the sadists.
Psychological tests have proven, what you could assume from just looking at the situation, that the reasoning behind their love for being put-down and berated outside of work is the brain making the balance - their acting is leaving residual feelings lying around in their brains and these have to be dealt with in as extreme a way as they dealt out this punishment.
How else can you explain this as anything BUT acting? If they were true "alphas" they;d feel nothing over what they did.
again you see things only the way you want to see things, you want to think that the alphas have problems because you are anything but alpha, you focus on the negative
i want to hear what a psychiatrist would say about guys like you in "e relationships"
show me one that says it's normal to call someone you've never met your girlfriend, show me one that says these are people that know how to socialise
quote:Of course I'm not, but it's a means to an end and that's the point you can't seem to grasp...my life is so much better now than it was before she was in it.
so that means you were getting no action along with no cyber sex?
quote:I don't know where I said that, because no it isn't; it's called having patience and commitment. Two things you lack, I'm sure you'd admit. My life will be where I want it basically after I finish my education. (I'm not so worried about a job).
no i do not have the "patience and commitment" to wait for a girl that lives across the world, you got me there
quote:so why are you telling me how *YOU* think I feel?
because that is what you do to anybody that has tried to develop a more alpha mindset when it has been proven since the dawn of time that alphas have a higher quality of life
in all honesty andy, i hope your relationship with athena works out, i think it would be truly amazing for two people that live across the world to meet online and then get married
seriously it should be made into a movie and it would be cool to say that i had doubts and was proven wrong, now it's a hollywood movie, i really think that would be awesome
Posted by Michael P (Member # 1922) on :
quote:Originally posted by GQguy: Geez guys. That last thread was one of the best i've seen in a while. Don't ruin another thread with this bickering. PM each other and continue the personal attacks there. Both of you bring up excellent points and are very incitefull. Keep that stuff here.
I doubt you guys realize this but there are numerous guys that read these post but never post themselves. "Lurkers". Many of these guys benefit from our "intellectual" convos. Keep it up and take care of one another. We understand stand each other in a way that family and friends never really could...despite being miles apart.
GQguy
i tried to talk to him through pm, he didn't say much
i don't understand why the other thread was closed, i said before that the alpha conversation always makes for an interesting debate
people will butt heads during a debate, why do we have to close down threads just because people don't agree with each other?
Posted by Andy-Laa (Member # 31511) on :
quote:Originally posted by Michael P: i tried to talk to him through pm, he didn't say much
Getting into an argument over pm implies you are like enraged by whatever was said...I'm just not.
Posted by Five For Feet (Member # 33596) on :
quote:i'm attracted to youthful looks, something a 42 year old rarely has
for every demi moore, there is a million 42 year olds that look like they are 42 years old
All in the eye of the beholder I guess, but there are an awful lot of hot, good looking 42 year old women out there dude, I'm just sayin'. Can I get an amen anyone?
Posted by GQguy (Member # 16534) on :
quote:Originally posted by Five For Feet:
quote:i'm attracted to youthful looks, something a 42 year old rarely has
for every demi moore, there is a million 42 year olds that look like they are 42 years old
All in the eye of the beholder I guess, but there are an awful lot of hot, good looking 42 year old women out there dude, I'm just sayin'. Can I get an amen anyone?
Amen!! The woman that inspired this thread was smoking hot by any measure. She was hotter than her 27 year old daughter. Who was hot herself. I don't care, 36-24-36 with awesome skin and a pretty face works for me everytime....don't really care if she's 18 or 90.
GQ
Posted by Michael P (Member # 1922) on :
quote:Originally posted by Andy-Laa: This was all that was said in the PM (Mike if you want me to delete this post, I will). There is no reason to lie, I didn't tell the moderators a thing. Besides - you said numerous people reported you...
Topic: the mods Michael P are you the one whining to the mods about my posts?
yes or no
Andy-Laa Honest answer: no. I'm not that petty.
Michael P i was hoping you weren't, especially since you claim to be 'beating' me in arguments
your sig gives me doubts though
according to wu many people want me banned, i wonder who these "many people" are
i guess "many people" have a problem with freedom of speech and want us all to stick with the typical:
how do i make her feet smelly, what is the best shoe size, your favorite nail polish, or any other topic that has been gone over a million times and no topics that actually turn into discussions where people actually go outside their perverted thoughts
oh well
Andy-Laa I'm just not going to get into an argument over PM..that's a bit too far.
The thread was locked. Again.
Michael P god the mods here are bitches
lets all get along and sing kumbaya [Roll Eyes]
private messages are supposed to be private Posted by Andy-Laa (Member # 31511) on :
quote:Originally posted by Five For Feet:
quote:i'm attracted to youthful looks, something a 42 year old rarely has
for every demi moore, there is a million 42 year olds that look like they are 42 years old
All in the eye of the beholder I guess, but there are an awful lot of hot, good looking 42 year old women out there dude, I'm just sayin'. Can I get an amen anyone?
A.Men
Yeah - a certain head-turner for me would be Liz Hurley
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