quote:Originally posted by GQguy: I just don't buy into the whole mentality that guys have to pay(cold hard cash, diamonds, dinner or an apple martini) to share a physical experience with a woman.
it's a part of our evolutionary pattern. men have always been the providers of protection and resources for the woman and her offspring to have a greater chance of survival. cold hard cash, assets, or resources are just a direct or indirect means for a woman to obtain the things which would bring her safety and comfort. Money is just an easy translation of those things that tend to make people more well off in terms of survival (live in nicer neighborhood, eat healthier food, better education, etc.).
The form of gift or payment that complement a woman's comfort level is something that has been anthropologically hard wired into their internal algorithyms for male assessment. Don't view buying a drink as a direct effect on her tomorrow's survival liklihood but instead a subconscious test that you might've passed which implies that you have the ability to seemlessly provide for her if she were to consider taking further steps with you. (and don't mistake this drink buying status with part of the game to show who's in control, as that in itself is a whole nother set of different circumstances not aimed at demonstrating ability to provide, cuz often buying her a drink can demonstrate spinelessness [at intro], but on a more personal level when the game is free of tests it can demonstrate it's more pertinant intent -- you providing for her)
Those assessment algorithms are subconsciously there in most women and this trait often plays a part in things without them knowing. After all, if they didn't have the trait programmed in, they could end up falling for some bum loser on the streets who has no way to take care of her needs nor their children if they had a kid.
The woman's expectation of resources to be provided by the male are a side effect of the male being the provider throughout human history.
Feeties can disagree with reality all he wants, but we are animals and we are a consequence of our environment when you look at things on a larger scale. He just prefers to see things on a daily personal level (though I can agree with him much on that level), but human history does not change by the actions of small minorities. And many of those in the majority who he might like to think are as morally stern as he, are in fact deviants in the closet. So, I'll reiterate that his true faithful minority is really a minority at best. The rest of them stray. alot.
because they are hardwired to stray (as animals)
Ahh...true. But you neglect one thing. In biology many females species create pair bonds with males that can provide,while secretly mating with other males for thier genes. Same thing happens in our species. Guy makes a million dollars and marries a beautiful woman. Beautiful woman sees handsome cadet me;O) and the next thing you know the beautiful white couple has a beautiful mixed baby ;o) Funny thing is that the same scenario could happen even if I wasn't better looking than the millionaire. So when it goes for hookers...theres somebody out there having sex with her for free....while the "Johns" pay for his apartment. I think my time is very valuable. I'm still a gentleman... i'll invest money by buying drinks and such into friends guy or girl. But when it comes to sex..she has to meet my standards for friendship first.
In closing: Last weekend I was out a sushi bar with friends when this gorgeous (think halle barry but model hieght came in) anyway she was sitting behind me. At some point I think I told her to "slow down on the alcohol it's still early ;o)". She responded by saying "it's my 21st...buy me and my friends shots". I responded with "I'm not sure you're that cool" and from then on I had the hottest chic in the bar all over me. Ironically enough..had I bought her that drink...and showed her i'm a provider I would have lost her interest. Fast!!
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quote:Originally posted by GQguy: Ironically enough..had I bought her that drink...and showed her i'm a provider I would have lost her interest. Fast!!
you would not have demonstrated being a provider in that scenario. you would've demonstrated being a pushover or wussbag if you caved and took orders from her that early on. she was testing/assessing you whether she knew it or not. good comeback to her BTW.
if a man can be the hot playboy f*ckstud "and" millionaire provider-boy at the same time, he'll always win out over the guy who only fulfills the role of the playboy.
all sides have thier merits, but they do not change the fact that all are factors in what women will judge you by. the more checks you can have crossed off on her list, the better off you'll be everytime.
don't mistake buying a drink for being a provider. often times, it is better to not buy the drinks (typically in 1st meetup type scenarios) due to the other things that initial drink buying tends to demonstrate.
men who make good providers though are ultimately a big factor that women take into consideration after some time getting to know him. this judgement process often occurs later in the game though.
so not necessarily crucial for the one night stand approach. and basically for you guys out there hooking, the whole sugar daddy vibe might get ya used and abused in those initial stages, LOL
when looking at some of the broad factors for getting women, ie looks vs money... try to get her from a balanced intrigue level. too much of one without the other (ie. provider vs. f*ckstud) can put you in a predicament.
it's true that pair bonding occurs for different reasons in nature and with humans, but the stuff that equates to cheating does not always come hassle free. we've all been there done that I'm sure and can probably remember what a pain in the butt it can be when screwin around. definitely fun though if the chic is hot, LOL
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Well, I don't think there is anything wrong with using a hooker for your foot fetish needs. I mean if you go to strip clubs, have memberships to foot sites, or go to foot parties, they really all are the same thing for reals. The result is the same. Your still paying money to satisfy a sexual need. When you watch a porno or your watching a fetish site, you watch it cause thats what YOU wish you could do. It's your fantasy and your rightly entitled to it.
However, it is wrong that your cheating on your girlfriend. If something involves your penis another woman then hate to say it bro but it's cheating. The fact she's not into it isn't an excuse. You and her should work on a compromise and talk it through. If you think she is worth dating you can find a compromise of some sort. All relationships gotta make compromises sometimes.
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What else is Craigslist for? I just make sure I get a pic before hand, since I cannot do stubby toes...plus, there are always models that get turned on during a shoot and after the cameras are down...
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I decided to experiment with a hooker for the first time not long ago. It was about 5am and i had been out drinking most of the night and was very drunk and horny. Luckily their was a place still open at this time of the morning (only just). Usually i wouldnt have the confidence to confess my foot fetish but as i was drunk i did not care, so when the hooker was telling me about the rules and the cost i asked her if i could do things with her feet as i have a foot fetish and she said sure. as we were forplaying, she asked what id like to do in regards to her feet and i said just to worship them would be great, so she starting sucking my dick (with a condom on, as the rules state)and stretched her feet into my face (we were laying down on the bed), it was great just to caress her feet and tell fer how sexy they were, they werent too bad id say about a 7/10. anyway as we were finishing up i knew we were running out of time and i was fucking her whilst her feet were in my face nad i was kissing them. I needed to get even more turned on so that i could blow in time so i decided to fulfil my celebrity foot desire (the closest thing to it anyway) the hooker looked a little like christina aguilera, so i started to say oh chritina aguilera i want to worship your feet, and she played along with this and started saying suck my toes i'm christina aguilera, suck christinas dirty feet, this was a huge turn on and i blew imagining that i was worshipping christina aguileras feet, it was really intense. im looking forward to going back and trying this approach with the next celebrity of choice pending on what mood im in.
quote:Originally posted by Feeties: Ah, here I am again. Well, some of you know my thoughts on this world, and well, this is all I've got to say; anyone who does these things, i.e. having sex purely for the pleasure is a pig. I despise these types of people, and well, I'm sorry but they are what is ruining this world. We're not goddamn animals. We're supposed to be ...more higher than that. I've been proved wrong over and over again on that, though.
Hey, nice open mind you've got there, asshole. Here's hoping you NEVER get to experience sex for pleasure. Enjoy your lofty view while looking down on the pigs of the world.
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WELL! Last night I was feeling just to damn randy and so I decided to stop by a loacal brothel after being surrounded by hot Psychobilly chicks.
Got myself a hooker with PRETTY decent sexy feet. I didn't say anything to her yet. We were just doing the usual. I finally suggested she massage my **** with her feet, which she agreed to, but looked a little turned off! I felt a little bad for her, and I think I might have apologised.
Well anyway. While I loved LOOKING at her feet, getting a footjob was an underwhelming experience. And when I finally got the nerve to suck her toes, I found the sensation unpleasant.
But I'm not sure what to make of it yet. I don't get laid much at all so may have to try again next time I hook up, to see what exactly turns me on sexually. Maybe feet are less of a sexual thing these days and more of a general aesthetic.
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quote:Originally posted by DeadGoon: WELL! Last night I was feeling just to damn randy and so I decided to stop by a loacal brothel after being surrounded by hot Psychobilly chicks.
Got myself a hooker with PRETTY decent sexy feet. I didn't say anything to her yet. We were just doing the usual. I finally suggested she massage my **** with her feet, which she agreed to, but looked a little turned off! I felt a little bad for her, and I think I might have apologised.
Well anyway. While I loved LOOKING at her feet, getting a footjob was an underwhelming experience. And when I finally got the nerve to suck her toes, I found the sensation unpleasant.
But I'm not sure what to make of it yet. I don't get laid much at all so may have to try again next time I hook up, to see what exactly turns me on sexually. Maybe feet are less of a sexual thing these days and more of a general aesthetic.
that sucks, sorry about that
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Hey man I understand, in college feet were and still are a visual pleasure. But it took a very nurturing, sexy woman with the toes and feet that I like to open me up to a *j, etc. And now, if there is too much friction it ain't happenin' so you gotta be prepared.
Maybe I am the opposite, but when 4 of us called over 2 ladies from CL...I had to suck her toes to get anything going...the next day, when we were catching up - I just told them that it didn't work and I paid for nothing. It happens. But it is all a numbers game. The only way to get experience is to get experience.
Hey man I understand, in college feet were and still are a visual pleasure. But it took a very nurturing, sexy woman with the toes and feet that I like to open me up to a *j, etc. And now, if there is too much friction it ain't happenin' so you gotta be prepared.
Maybe I am the opposite, but when 4 of us called over 2 ladies from CL...I had to suck her toes to get anything going...the next day, when we were catching up - I just told them that it didn't work and I paid for nothing. It happens. But it is all a numbers game. The only way to get experience is to get experience.
i know, i just can't find one who likes me and all. i've gotten kind of desperate, but stopped myself from doing something stupid
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This may not be the place - hit me up at my website email and I'll let you pick my brain - you are an All Pro Poster so can't be that bad. Sexy Long Toes didn't happen overnight!
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i got a few videos of hooker's feet plus some pics...there's nothing wrong with paying for feet.
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