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hey guys. right now im half flattered and half peeved. just recently there was a post involving footfetishtube and having not been there in awhile i decided to pay it a visit. what do i see as the top featured video? a video from my youtube page. i click on the name and i see dozens of my material an his account. ive never quite had this feeling before... the fact that im copied makes me feel like i had something worth stealing, yet i feel stolen from. does footfetishtube ever share any of its profits with users? that could be a pretty big deal for me.
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Contact the site and get that shit taken down!! I just asked c4s.com AND kinkbomb.com what the safeguards are for preventing EXACTLY what you're talking about. Youtube says they will remove your content if it shows up. I think the law requires it.
Funny, my guy and I were just talking about that this morning and we realized that if it was well hidden, you might never know that your material was ripped off. You're lucky you caught it!
quote:Originally posted by edelbrock: does footfetishtube ever share any of its profits with users?
Yeah, don't hold your breath on that one. I think the reason they instituted that policy was to pay their own hosting costs, not to "spread the wealth" to users who were actually contributing original content.
To your question: if someone posted something I made and claimed it was their own, I'd be righteously pissed.
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not even the point of someone pretending that content belongs to him or her. I would send a DMCA, then reverse IP the host and sue to shut them down and get them off the net!
Imho people that rip other people content are friggin retards and get what they deserve. In about a year, the copyright and inherent trademark issues will be as such, that you will be able to go after the users and prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law. Meaning going after bank accounts, personal possessions and property.
And it's about time. Current laws as is, are pretty scary for people that rip to torrents, etc as it is right now. I sure wouldn't be putting my personal life on the line to rip of content, if I was a surfer. If you need any help whatsoever, feel free to PM me. This is a HUGE pet peeve of mine and my attorney lives for this shit.
Even password sharing, technically, can be prosecuted. And since you can easily look up the stolen username and password, it's very easy to find and prosecute the idiots that post them.
Please don't take me for being mean. I love my community, but I am so sick and damn tired of seeing good sites go under because people are too selfish to support them. Again, any paysite concept is not free. It costs money, a good amount of it every month. I guess that is why I am so passionate about this, is that in the end, this nonsense hurts everyone and in the end, the community as a whole. I had 110 foot fetish sites on footpervert.com last year, now I am down to under 60?!? This is friggin dumb! Piracy is killing this niche, and has been for the past half decade.
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I don't think you understand what a law like this could do. First of all this will not pass in congress and second of all this law will hurt most the video game and the movie industry because every single game reviewer and movie reviewer will become a criminal under this act. You need to research these laws before wildly supporting them. We are strongly fighting these laws because guess what it this law happens I will be out of a job and so will hundreds of other firms because our buisness models rely on journalistic use of video game, movie etc footage which will become a criminal act to use. We are loosin our freedom
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i'm sorry for what inconvenience you've experienced with the footfetishtube issue, but i just checked out your youtube page and was very impressed by what i saw....how did you get so many hot chicks to enduldge you and the camera?
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I have researched these laws and people are too irresponsible to police themselves, therefore they will be policed. If your honest, like the majority of people are, you have nothing to worry about. I know, it sucks, I get that, but people should not have to take it in the nuts because people that steal have some sense of self entitlement.
This, of course is not directed towards you JKO12, by any means, but there are two sides to the coin. People bitch and moan all the time, ..."oh why did this site have to close", oh my gosh, "i wonder what happened to her", they lost their asses and folded up because of piracy. That is what happens and that is the aftermath.
We have begged, pleaded, and moaned to surfers to be honest for the past decade and they simply do not give a shit. It's sad all the way around.
I do agree that the ending parameters of this legislation is a bit broad, but they will work themselves out. The adult industry is dying a slow dead and is infected by piracy. I don't think we have any other choice but to do this. And its all over the other Adult Industry Boards. About 90 percent of us support this, as an industry.
This has no bearing on "fair use" and I am quite sure that if you are simply doing reviews that you will be fine. You just have to contact the copyright holder now and give them 12 business days to respond. The "you tube" factor and having inherent copyright to stream is not on the books until the fall, and is not the final law as it is written now. It is being edited.
Furthermore, the streaming factor is in fact targeted to illegal tubes and people that posts stolen video and streams, mainstream or adult.
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The fair use factor will be overridden completely. The law plans to make broadcasting and streaming a felony. So any coverage we do for the E3 or anything that we have broadcasted on G4TV will require us to wait 12 days and that will cost us too much money. We have always been faced with companies that didn't like reviews that have been done. These companies can then file charges against poor reviews. This law is ignorant and written by people with zero knowledge. Instead of targeting the real issues it just targets everything.
Here is the hard truth for any content creators. Piracy exits and it will never die. I don't know much about the Adult Industry but speaking for the movie and video game industry, companies rarely fold because of piracy but because of crappy management. Tougher copyright laws will do nothing and have never done anything except but excessive amounts of money not into the artists hands but into the hands of corporations to fight more copyright. So these million dollar settlements that are brought against individuals guess what, they are not going to the artist but the company to sue more people.
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JKO yes I have read about corporations taking the money for themselves and that's pretty sad.
The adult industry does not have one huge conglomerate corporation, sans Manwin, we are all independent. From Wicked Pictures to the Mom and Pop with the clips4sale sites out there.
It's just sad all around. I know the economy is tough and I know a ton of people are broke.
All I can say is forge relationships with your clients now. Be proactive. Unlike the gaming industry, most Adult sites will welcome reviews, and if they don't like what you have to say, it's free speech. Maybe a well thought out critique will make them a better brand...
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yeah, fair use does not apply to things like this. I hate to mention it here, but it is a good example, but websites that have pay membership to view photos that the website owner does not own the copyright to, like celebrity foot sites, can be closed down and sued for this reason as well. The minimum fine for taking someone else's photos and using it as your own, can be as high as $100,000. Furthermore, the owner of the rights of the photo are allowed to sell it and control who else is allowed to sell it.
You do own the copyright to the video or any of the material so a simple letter telling them that you will pursue legal actions, may speed things up and help people not pass around your material. That is why I am very careful of celebrity feet photos. Every celebrity foot photo was taken by someone and that someone has the sole right to sell it, not celebrity foot sites. If I took a picture of Lady Gaga's feet, I would be pissed as Hell if I found out that some celebrity foot site was selling a membership and that picture was in the member's area. As for footfetishtube, I believe it is in their eula, that the uploader has to own the rights to the video. If someone else has said they do, then that is fraud and if they are making cash from your stuff, that is about $100,000 per use. Contact a lawyer and get paid.
The comment "piracy exists and will never die" is sadly true.
The comment "Get a lawyer and get paid." is great advice!
I filmed a DVD a few years ago. Somebody copied the video and clipped out my scene and posted it on YouPorn. It was listed under a completely different name than the dvd and I never would have know EXCEPT that an anonymous myspace message sent the link to me and my ex. Obviously somebody trying to get revenge...
I just checked youporn and it's got THEIR watermark on it!!
Oh hells no...
I'm writing a threatening letter right now!
Other sites have also posted this DVD but they've given full credit to the production company. Unlike YouPorn who is RIPPING me off!!
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How do these "copyright" laws apply to violators who have websites and servers registered overseas and how do you all expect to get paid by suing people who are probably (as someone mentioned earlier) broke? (The U.S has built itself around the reputation of everyone suing each other nowadays).
Welcome to the adult industry....it's a "dirty" business.
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quote:Originally posted by Scotty7493: How do these "copyright" laws apply to violators who have websites and servers registered overseas and how do you all expect to get paid by suing people who are probably (as someone mentioned earlier) broke? (The U.S has built itself around the reputation of everyone suing each other nowadays).
Welcome to the adult industry....it's a "dirty" business.
I am glad you asked. Apparently ICE has stated that as long as your a dot com or dot net site that there is no longer a "non jurisdiction" parameter that the infringing site can hide behind anymore. For more info on this, please see
The safe harbor for pirate sites overseas is in the process of ending, as of this month. Not only will they shut down the site and sieze the domain, they will extradite them and try them here in the U.S. under U.S. copyright law.