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Recently somebody posted a question about sites like c4s.com and kinkbomb.com and the protection they offer our materials. (Since I have both stores I was REALLY curious!)
I sent this email to both c4s and kink: I'm just wondering if there are any safeguards in place to prevent customers from purchasing my clips and then uploading them to free sites (like FootFetishTube.com or YouTube.com).
Their responses are below.
Team Kinkbomb.com "The only safeguard we have direct control over is providing download links for purchased products that expire after 24 hours, which prevents customers from posting/forwarding the links for others to download.
We recommend frequently checking the sites where you have seen or think you might see pirated clips and send the sites takedown notices if you find anything. The majority of sites are responsive when you notify them that they have pirated copyrighted material posted."
C4S "Hope you had a great weekend.I am sorry at this time there is nothing can be done about this . We are working on some things that will help stop this in the future. We do ban all customers/owners off clips4sale that we find doing this. You can also contact youtube and so on and usually they will have the material removed."
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I embed and watermark my video. Not to be mean, but when the new copyright laws go into effect, once users start loosing their houses and getting their bank accounts siezed, I think you will find that piracy will start disappearing in a big way.
The current anti piracy laws are pretty scary. I would think that only an idiot would share copyrighted content right now.
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so, wait, it will soon be illegal for people to stream things that they do not own the rights to? Or distribute things that they do not have rights or permissions to do? What is wrong with that? I figured that this would be a good thing. It would cut down the amount of material, both video and pictures, that is being illegally distributed online, either by email, zip files or other ways.
quote:Originally posted by Candylicious: I guess I'm the only one surprised that they don't /can't do more?!
I'm surprised too.
Based on their response to you, they're unwilling to take responsibility for the problem. I guess that's not really a "surprise", per se, but I did expect more. Their bottom line is at stake, one would think.
But I guess they do so much business that they can afford to take such a laidback attitude toward piracy?
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I know some of you are website owners as well, so FYI, http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/ does offer an extremely good deal, as a member, in regards to policing the internet for your stolen content. FSC is made for us to protect our rights as responsible fetish website owners. The direct link is here http://fscapap.com/.
quote:Originally posted by The Candy Shoppe: Recently somebody posted a question about sites like c4s.com and kinkbomb.com and the protection they offer our materials.
Initially as I recall there was some buzz that C4S generated about retaining services of some DMCA Enforcement firm, all that is oddly gone from their website now.
But ultimately there is absolutely nothing you can do aside from contacting the site owner where the offending content is posted, However by that time, someone has already downloaded it, and it _will_ just get re-posted on a "private" site or a foreign language site, without keywords to find it.
The only cause for concern usually is if you run a pay-site and 100% of your updates are reposed on a scheduled basis, then look at the site security. C4S does a fairly good job at keeping that out after all this time.
Fighting piracy is a non winning battle especially for the independent operator, and the worse the world economic state is the more prevalent the piracy.
quote:Originally posted by Beautifulfeetonline.com: I know some of you are website owners as well, so FYI, http://www.freespeechcoalition.com/ does offer an extremely good deal, as a member, in regards to policing the internet for your stolen content. FSC is made for us to protect our rights as responsible fetish website owners. The direct link is here http://fscapap.com/.
Sorry, I don't mean to offend you in any way. But that whole thing is sort of scam-ish. It basically offers you services you can just do yourself for free.
1. Digital Fingerprinting (AKA Veil Encoding)
Mostly used to ensure that advertising and viral videos spread to where they are supposed to.
Developed for broadcasters in the 1980's to ensure that 30 second ad-spots play-out on a particular station so they can pay for media time.
Originally developed for Batman the TV show.
100% USELESS, Every trans-code of your media will, during upload or otherwise remove the fingerprinting. If someone archives the video file, into say ZIP/RAR splits in into parts or otherwise, it's totally non usable.
2. Spidering Technology (just use Google Properly) Write a search robot, etc..
3. DMCA Notices - ANYONE Can type one up, equivalent to a cease and decist, unfortunately you first need to know who to send it to. 99.9% It's going to be to the ISP, not the site owner nor the uploader. Giving away the uploaders IP requires a subpoena/court order and so it should, otherwise our constitution is worthless. RWHOIS look-ups will possibly give you the site operator, but most likely just the hosting company who is re-selling for the ISP.
4. Copyright Registration Councelor? Really.
U.S. Copyright office is for the public to use. And the U.S. Copyright office is defacto what is going to help with the DMCA complaints in the first place.
I guess the value add is that they do this for you.
Further they also offer services to the very websites that you would not want your content on in the first place.
All the laws going in are to protect the interests of MPAA/RIAA who's memberships consist of about six or seven, multinational corporations who are in business of owning all the content in the known universe, also providing bandwith, news and television access, and according to them legitimate corporations like Neflix and Hulu and Vonage are also stealing in one way or another just because their business model is more adept to the digital age.
None of this lobbying is there to protect an average American, nor your mom and pop foot site operator.
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Really Melanie? Current 2257 laws are the way they are because of FSC. FSC has also gone after and won Vivid's challenge for youporn to stop illegally streaming 56 of it's videos, and won them 3 million in damages. DMCA has to be worded a certain way, or it is not a legally viable online document. ~2 cents
quote:Originally posted by Beautifulfeetonline.com: Really Melanie? Current 2257 laws are the way they are because of FSC. FSC has also gone after and won Vivid's challenge for youporn to stop illegally streaming 56 of it's videos, and won them 3 million in damages. DMCA has to be worded a certain way, or it is not a legally viable online document. ~2 cents
...you don't really follow adult news much do you?
Okay, so they have lawyers and succeeded in suing for Vivid - which I believe is one of the bigger if not the biggest disc distribution businesses, old model DVD distribution.
But how does their 1,2,3,4 point content protection portal (to which you posted a link) for adult webmasters or tube site owners offer anything that an independent webmaster/video producer cannot do themselves?
Posting links to articles about their wins for California performers or is not going to make me believe it's not just some lawyers seeking to monetize on what basically amounts to a subscription based, legal form generation and DMCA threat writing venue, possibly with a vertical payment structure or pay as you go structure.
I'm NOT challenging the usefulness of FSC by itself to the general adult entertainment industry, there are way to many opponents to it for one or another reason.
However their content protection division: http://fscapap.com/ seems just like a value added legal service from the initial read, with possibly bigger and bigger fees leading all the way up to litigation fees.
They could just as well be non-for-profit ORG, like EFF for example and people would simply donate if they can.
from fscapp: At the time of registration, please note there will be a one time registration fee charged for $450. Acceptable payments will be in the form of credit card, bank draft or monthly invoice.
No other fee schedule provided. I'm not certain if then they charge per-video digital fingerprinting fee, which is most likely done by a third party application etc...
Similarly people would not even know about MPAA for example if it was not for their Ratings Divisions and their DMCA lawsuits for file sharing. I'm certain they have some usefulness outside of that to the big studio system, however to the average person or a small independent film maker they are nothing but a negative.
I guess you just really want a adult trade organization with lobbyists and lawyers, it looks like it already exists FSC.
But in this post I'm simply asking about content protection and copyright protection usefulness.
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I have been a member since 2005. I have nothing but praise for them. As a member, all of the internal services, more or less are free. Attorney services state by state are also free.
This is very important to me, as I travel and shoot models from all around the U.S. It is good to know that if there is ever any drama, that I am covered by an on call attorney in every state.
You do pay another small fee to opt into copyright services, but their spiders are crawling thousands of sites everyday, looking for my content. I just do not have the time to do this alone, so it is invaluable to me.
quote:Originally posted by Beautifulfeetonline.com: You do pay another small fee to opt into copyright services, but their spiders are crawling thousands of sites everyday, looking for my content. I just do not have the time to do this alone, so it is invaluable to me.
Is it a per video, per photoset etc? Who is their digital fingerprinting "partner"? Is it monthly recurring?
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