Foot Fetish Forum: Something that has been disturbing me of late

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Posted by Ticklingsolesmaster (Member # 14850) on :

I have seen a few members on here make new posts about Masterbating on thier friends wife's shoes or feet or best friends sister's feet etc... or doing things to thier own sister's feet (foot fetish wise)

And to me when i see posts like theses ones on this forum,i just ask myself where does the line of foot fetish or any fetish general cross?

Maybe i'm just old fashioned (though i'm only 22 years old). But i just really believe in being respectful to girls and having self respectful for not only myself but for also girls as well when it comes to MY FOOT FETISH and girls feet.

So thier is no way in heck that i would even think about masterbating onto a girls foot or inside of her flip flops or sandals no matter how good looking she was or her feet were. My approach is if they approve with thier consent first and are OK with doing things to thier feet then i go ahead and do that. But i wouldn't over cross the line and do anything as bold as masterbating on girls feet or sneeking into thier bed room during the day or night and licking thier bare soles while the girl is sleeping or sniff random girls feet while under a hidden park bench.

It's all about self control and respect for not only yourself as a guy but for the girl also. And i really think that some sick minded guys with a foot fetish don't have that (weather they are serious about doing things to random girls feet or thier own familys feet or not)

I don't mean to cause any waves. I'm just getting this out and discussing.

Posted by The Champ (Member # 14891) on :

i agree with you completely man. guys need to learn how to control their fetish. you just cant be masturbating on a woman`s foot and her shoes or licking her soles and sucking her toes while she sleeps. now if she says it`s okay then go let it rip but either way, it`s gross and dont even try it. it disturbs even more with guys on here actually talk about stories of how they fucked with their own families feet and shoes. there is a line that shouldnt be crossed and that`s that line you should never cross no matter what. i dont even look at my own mother`s feet. besides family, you should never try this with your friend`s girlfriend/wife, your friend`s mother/sister,your friends and your aunt/grandmother.

Posted by dougiezerts (Member # 6829) on :

You're wiser than your age, buddy! I agree with you 100%.

Posted by Wrinklesguy (Member # 732) on :

It's all a matter of self convictions to the individual, regardless who thinks it's wrong or right there's some guys out there who this does not bother and they will do it..what can you do?

Posted by guy23 (Member # 6525) on :

I agree. Someties you just have to draw the line.

Posted by Lou Gojira (Member # 983) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Wrinklesguy:
It's all a matter of self convictions to the individual, regardless who thinks it's wrong or right there's some guys out there who this does not bother and they will do it..what can you do?

Good point Bro...and sadly there isn't anything we can do to end it entirely, other than call them out if they brag about it on here, or shame them in real life if they talk about it. And by shame, I mean that in many ways...a fist to the mouth for instance would be a good way to get your point across to some pervert that can't control himself around girls who don't give him consent, or their shoes.

Whatever happened to the good ol' fashioned mind-set of treating women with respect? Not ridiculously kissing their asses and whimpering in their presence, but treating them like the fairer and gentler sex that they are? Sure, there are a few too many real bitches and skanks that don't deserve an ounce of respect from anybody, but they shouldn't be the ones that bring all women down in the eyes of us men.

Posted by Sinnister (Member # 2394) on :

If we all had the same morals governing our actions their would be no individualism.

Sometimes it's better to have questionable acts in existence to realize which ones aren't.

Posted by Pete-The-Feet-Lover (Member # 3260) on :

Ticklingsolesmaster ,

That's the best damn thing I've read here in a while. I really agree with what you had to say. It always creeps out my female friends when they read those threads; fortunatly there are enough, more interesting, threads to offset it.

Lou,

Yet another well written post from you.

Posted by babeflover (Member # 2953) on :

matter of conviction or not, wrong is wrong. that a person or a group consider something like masturbasting to a friend's or sister's shoes or feet right or ok, doesn't make it ok. wow! your own sister, that's sick.

Posted by Dazzz (Member # 12539) on :

yeah i agree with you 1oo% to. i really do agree with the respect and self controll part. its just a shame there are some people out there that dont believe in either one

Posted by reanimation (Member # 2136) on :

I am 19 years old and I totally agree with Tickling, and with Lou. On this forum in the past I accused someone about this and got so much blasting from him that I just didn't push the morality behind the things you should or shouldn't do with regards to foot fetish or even in general. I'm glad that there are members here with some sense and morals. Again well written Tickling and good response Lou.

Posted by Craigy boy (Member # 3340) on :

Yeah, i got a problem with that stuff too. I mean, i fiddle with wifey now and then when she is asleep, but then again, she takes money out of my wallet when i am drunk. [Smile]

But, i try to draw the line at sneaky stuff with other people.

I think alot of what people post is fantasy too, so i think we should take that into account.

Posted by ToeLuvinFirefighter (Member # 2688) on :

I can't say anything else that hasn't already been said. I totally agree with everything you guys have said... There is a line, know where it is...I''m lucky enough to have Kim's feet anytime I want "with permission" even if she sleeps.. But I'm sure having such an open minded wife helps me so that I don't have to act or think of other fantasies....I just live them out with her... Good thread and well said everyone

Posted by DennisIsEvil (Member # 11755) on :

I figure it's o.k. if it's your wife or girlfriend and she has said she's o.k. with it then fine rub one out. As for perfect strangers or other guys' girl no. How would you feel if some guy came into your house and cranked a load allover your wife or girlfriend's bra and panties?

Posted by Ummmmm (Member # 15145) on :

Finally, a sensible topic to discuss.

Right on, TSM, for saying what I've wanted to say in here. [Cheers]

It's just not cool and it does appear that alot of threads are about sneaking a toe suck or spoojin on an unsuspecting lady's flip-flops lately. To the point that it is becoming ad-nauseum [Puke]

ToelovingFF, you and I have wives that are so incredibly cool with our fetish...that's why we married them! [Big Grin]

And as usual, Lou, well said, my man! [Thumbs Up]

Posted by Lyrical (Member # 6603) on :

Never have to sneak becaus ethe wifey is open even when she sleeps. She has said go ahead. But think about what we are saying. If you are sneaking that in itself is not a good thing.

Posted by Mr.Papers (Member # 3205) on :

So you all should agree candid pictures are wrong as well?

Posted by Ticklingsolesmaster (Member # 14850) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Papers:
So you all should agree candid pictures are wrong as well?

In my opinion (and again this is just my opinion)

Anything that has to do with a foot fetish that is not given consent and a ok that's fine by the girl. Then it really shouldn't be done at all.

Non consensual is not my thing. Others maybe but not mine.

Posted by hoselover69 (Member # 15908) on :

So not everyone has a supporting wife on this forum. If "spooging" into some shoe that was left lying around is the means by which a foot fetishist gets their satisfaction, who the he11 is anyone else on here to judge. The common ground here is the fact that we are all into feet. Chasing down some chick in a mall and humping her shoe is wrong....fetish or not.

Posted by Lou Gojira (Member # 983) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Papers:
So you all should agree candid pictures are wrong as well?

Yes and no...at the risk of sounding like a hypocrite, I'm particularly fond of barefoot in public pics and especially if they're candid. However, I don't see this as an invasion of sorts on the girl(s) in the pics. In my personal opinion, if a girl is already cool about leaving the house with no shoes on, she obviously doesn't care if anybody looks at her feet. Either people that pass her on the street will look or folks on the internet will look...either way she's got total strangers gawking at her peds, and as far as she knows that's all the strangers are doing. And of course, if a guy see's her in public and goes home and masturbates to the mental imagery, that's no different than people seeing the pics on the internet and whacking off either.

Now with all of that said, I do draw the line at candid while not in public pics. If somebody were, say, sneaking into a girl's locker room and snapping pics before the girls could put their socks and shoes on, or sneaking into a bedroom and pulling down a bed sheet, snapping pics while the girl slept, well, that's just wrong. What makes this wrong and NOT the barefoot in public pics wrong is the fact that the girl(s) aren't openly displaying their feet. In other words, if a girl willingly bares her feet to the world, she doesn't mind people looking at her feet. If a girl doesn't expose her toes to the general masses, well, you get the picture. [Wink]

I know this probably sounds like a double-standard, but that's how I truly see it. If I'm wrong, I am all open to hear the reasons why. [Cool]

quote:
Originally posted by Ummmmm:
And as usual, Lou, well said, my man!

Thank you sir. [Bow Down]

Posted by Mr.Papers (Member # 3205) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Lou Gojira:
...if a guy see's her in public and goes home and masturbates to the mental imagery, that's no different than people seeing the pics on the internet and whacking off either.

So I must ask, and this is to all... how would you feel if you were surfing the web and saw your wife, gf, sister, mother, etc. on a fetish website?

Posted by reanimation (Member # 2136) on :

You know its interesting....Any woman may it be your girlfriend or wife or the complete stranger. They are someones sister, someones daughter, someones mother or someones wife. Yet we take total and complete pleasure out of them like its nothing. I am the moral of sorts and I agree with Ticklingsolesmaster when it comes to respect for a girl in general or sharing your fetish.

Posted by Ticklingsolesmaster (Member # 14850) on :

I agree with Lou,There is no different masterbating to random girls feet or even a girl that you know masterbating off to her feet. It is all the same.

And as goes the subject of complete strangers a mother's daughter's feet etc..

I look all the time and notice them and ponder and love feet. But i don't take it that step further and masterbate onto a complete strangers feet or grab a hold of the girls socks or shoes and masterbate inside them. I don't cross that line (not even fantasy i don't) because masterbating onto girls feet doesn't appeal.

If some guys are into that? Then hey i guess that's ok. But don't expect me to be a part of it.

Posted by Footfreak2 (Member # 14238) on :

YOU'RE RIGHT: The sick and out of control foot freaks make us all seem like total perverts! The board master should delete their posts, warn them the first time, and ban them the second.

Posted by mystik (Member # 1420) on :

You have to understand that it is times like this when the penis speaks before the brain does. Half the turn on for these people is not getting caught, the other half is the actual indulging of their fetish. Is it right? Shit no. I believe that once you cross that line, when you violate a girl (If you're tongue graces ANY part of a woman who has NOT let you do so while she is asleep or unsconscious you are VIOLATING her) like that then you are a creep and a wierdo. Doesnt matter if you have a foot fetish, ass fetish, hand fetish or elbow fetish. There is having a nice sensible fascination with feet, then there is something known as being a foot perv. It's disturbing because there are guys who will high five other guys for licking a sleeping girls feet or whatever. Its wrong, no matter what way you look at it. But I figure...the guy that must do this doesn't have the morals anyway so whats it matter.

Posted by Ummmmm (Member # 15145) on :

Well spoken, mystic.

Lou, back at ya brother! [Cheers]

Posted by Stryder_007 (Member # 13405) on :

Yeah-the whole sister and family thing is disturbing, in the sense that they can live with being sexual with any kind with said family member. AND have to see this person. So is the masturbation of un-suspecting women. But I still don't see anything wrong with doing s sniff and run!

Posted by Ticklingsolesmaster (Member # 14850) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Footfreak2:
YOU'RE RIGHT: The sick and out of control foot freaks make us all seem like total perverts! The board master should delete their posts, warn them the first time, and ban them the second.

I don't think that is the answer or that will solve anything. Because all the user has to do is get banned and then create a new screen name and profile (inless the user's IP ADDRESS is banned from this website also)

Posted by FIASCo (Member # 1899) on :

TicklingSolesMaster, your first post was right on target.

Posted by eyes_on_the_ground (Member # 15950) on :

I'm only new here and not looking to cause a stir, but I have a different point of view. I have a foot fetish. It's in my baby photos. It's a big part of me, I identified it a long time ago.

I've explored the obsession with my ex-wife. We did all the sharing pictures of her feet stuff. It was fun, taking the pictures and presenting them was fun for me; she freely admitted that sharing them with drooling men was fun for her.

I never really played with her shoes, I loved her and we have beautiful children but I didn't "like" her that much. I played with some shoes belonging to the occasional hot friend - a bit of a 'put hand inside the shoe', maybe kiss it if I was feeling daring.

I think everyone has the right to enjoy themselves in their own way as long as it isn't hurting anyone. I mean if you get busted kissing a woman's shoe, she is probably going to find the incident more amusing than offensive. One only has their own face to lose.

So I don't believe that all the shoe sniffing stealing whatever posts are fantasy. If these posts are becoming ad nauseum, then perhaps people are simply feeling more open to discuss their fetish in a deeper way among like minded folks?

Isn't that the point of a forum like this?

My obsession with women's feet is beyond self control, I admit that; and while I am in control of all predictable aspects of life, this is something that will never leave me.

After so many years of understanding my fetish, I can't accept that these feelings should be totally surpressed for the sake of respect. If I can't resist taking a quick sneak rub with my hand inside someone's shoe - I mean, isn't that the simplest act of kindness that anyone could give to you - "I will let you adore the interior of my shoe if it makes you happy".

I consider myself of high moral values, I am not into incest, I could never see my daughter as a sex object, but an aunty by marriage? A cousin? I don't think I'd kiss them, but I would play with their shoes.

I am just being honest, I came here to share my advanced foot fetish with other like minded chaps. I don't think we should be afraid to speak their true feelings in what I expected would be a "speakeasy", so to speak. [Smile]

So unless I am offending the general decorum here, I say bring on the core experience posts. The instant I logged in here I was so glad to see I am not alone with my feelings.

Has your obsession with feet has never made you do something which afterwards made you feel a bit stupid or spend more money than meant to? This is possibly a stupid question to pose, but is there a better place to get these experiences off our chests?

No offence to anyone intended.

~E~

Posted by hoselover69 (Member # 15908) on :

Well said Eyes-on-the-ground. Every forum group that I've ever read or belonged to has posters who display their feelings in a way that I like to call "brand loyalty". If it's a car forum, one brand is better over the next. If it's a boat forum, Bayliner is better than Maxum. It's no different here. I've quickly learned that in the foot forum group here, the brand loyalty manifests itself into different groups that feel it's morally wrong to excercise certain facets of their fetish when it's "everything goes" for other members. I also have a deep "appreciation" for pantyhose and nylon stockings. In the forum groups that tailor specifically to those fetishists, there are debates raging over what's nicer. Is a woman wearing pantyhose sexier than a woman wearing an antique seamed pair of stockings? To me it's the fact that her feet are in some sort of nylon material and I don't split hairs. Post a picture of a girl in stockings and title it a girl in pantyhose and watch the shit fly. The brand loyalty debate is present in every forum. The respect that we show each other in the fact that we're all just a bunch of foot lovers is the most important thing that you can do for other members on this group.

Posted by Ticklingsolesmaster (Member # 14850) on :

quote:
Originally posted by eyes_on_the_ground:
I'm only new here and not looking to cause a stir, but I have a different point of view. I have a foot fetish. It's in my baby photos. It's a big part of me, I identified it a long time ago.

I've explored the obsession with my ex-wife. We did all the sharing pictures of her feet stuff. It was fun, taking the pictures and presenting them was fun for me; she freely admitted that sharing them with drooling men was fun for her.

I never really played with her shoes, I loved her and we have beautiful children but I didn't "like" her that much. I played with some shoes belonging to the occasional hot friend - a bit of a 'put hand inside the shoe', maybe kiss it if I was feeling daring.

I think everyone has the right to enjoy themselves in their own way as long as it isn't hurting anyone. I mean if you get busted kissing a woman's shoe, she is probably going to find the incident more amusing than offensive. One only has their own face to lose.

So I don't believe that all the shoe sniffing stealing whatever posts are fantasy. If these posts are becoming ad nauseum, then perhaps people are simply feeling more open to discuss their fetish in a deeper way among like minded folks?

Isn't that the point of a forum like this?

My obsession with women's feet is beyond self control, I admit that; and while I am in control of all predictable aspects of life, this is something that will never leave me.

After so many years of understanding my fetish, I can't accept that these feelings should be totally surpressed for the sake of respect. If I can't resist taking a quick sneak rub with my hand inside someone's shoe - I mean, isn't that the simplest act of kindness that anyone could give to you - "I will let you adore the interior of my shoe if it makes you happy".

I consider myself of high moral values, I am not into incest, I could never see my daughter as a sex object, but an aunty by marriage? A cousin? I don't think I'd kiss them, but I would play with their shoes.

I am just being honest, I came here to share my advanced foot fetish with other like minded chaps. I don't think we should be afraid to speak their true feelings in what I expected would be a "speakeasy", so to speak.

So unless I am offending the general decorum here, I say bring on the core experience posts. The instant I logged in here I was so glad to see I am not alone with my feelings.

Has your obsession with feet has never made you do something which afterwards made you feel a bit stupid or spend more money than meant to? This is possibly a stupid question to pose, but is there a better place to get these experiences off our chests?

No offence to anyone intended.

~E~

Welcome to WUSFEETLINKS eyes_on_the_ground! [Smile]

I don't agree with anything that you said. Because i still feel strongly about not doing anything illegal wrong or immoral to girls feet with out thier consent and saying it's ok to do so. I just will not do it i'm a foot lover but not some sexual pervert that can't control his fetish at all or have any type of self control and respect.

But we all can't get along and agree on everything now can we?

That is the good thing about the world being able to talk about and share different opinions.

Posted by ledaemon (Member # 198) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Papers:
So I must ask, and this is to all... how would you feel if you were surfing the web and saw your wife, gf, sister, mother, etc. on a fetish website?

Well, actually my wife and her sister are on a fetish website... [Laugh]

Posted by Lou Gojira (Member # 983) on :

quote:
I think everyone has the right to enjoy themselves in their own way as long as it isn't hurting anyone. I mean if you get busted kissing a woman's shoe, she is probably going to find the incident more amusing than offensive. One only has their own face to lose.

Nobody is saying that certain fantasies are okay and others aren't. We've just been saying, as you point out yourself eyes_on_the_ground, that anything should be able to fly in the realm of fantasy so long as other people or their things aren't getting hurt. If you get busted sniffing a girl's shoes, odds are you'll just look like a sexual deviant and the worst thing that could happen would be a slap in the face or a beating from her man. Jacking off into a pair of shoes however, whether you get busted or not, is wrong on the grounds that you've done damage to the girl's personal property...that is, you've invaded a girl's personal belongings and brought about harm, even if all it is is financial...because let's face it, she's not going to put her foot back into something caked with a crusted up load of dried semen. There's a world of difference between sneaking a feel on a pair of shoes and actually messing them up.

Stealing shoes however, no matter how you try to look at it, is wrong because it's theft. Nevermind the moral issues as to the why's and what-for's, stealing is stealing.

The problem in stealing shoes or even sneaking around with them is for the most part a personal one if you're busted...you're correct about that. But on the other hand, IF you get caught and IF some hell get's raised, that's one more mark against foot guys everywhere. It doesn't take a lot of imagination to see in advance the conclusions a person could draw from an incident like that.

Girl: "I caught this friend of my husband's in the bathroom smelling a pair of my flip-flops! Can you believe that?!"

Girl's Friend: "Why would he do something like that?"

Girl: "He says he has a foot fetish and sometimes it gets the best of him."

Girl's Friend: "Figures...I've heard that foot fetishists are all perverts..."

Girl and Girl's Friend go on and spread the story...and in the end it pulls all of us down.

That's the reason why you'll see some of the members on this forum get their feathers ruffled over hearing guys talk about doing things like this. Nobody's saying that you should live your life by some moral code as the next guy...all people are saying is that when certain lines are crossed, the damage doen is a lot worse than personal. In the end it usually affects others...not to mention what it does to the girl and/or her property.

quote:
Every forum group that I've ever read or belonged to has posters who display their feelings in a way that I like to call "brand loyalty". If it's a car forum, one brand is better over the next. If it's a boat forum, Bayliner is better than Maxum. It's no different here. I've quickly learned that in the foot forum group here, the brand loyalty manifests itself into different groups that feel it's morally wrong to excercise certain facets of their fetish when it's "everything goes" for other members.

That's a very unrealistic and poor exaggeration of what transpires on this forum hoselover. Nobody has ever said that certain members get excused for questionable behavior and others are lynched for it. Quite the contrary...questionable behavior is questionable behavior, period, end of story, and that mentality/mind-set covers all of us. If it seems like certain members get picked on for "exercising facets" of their fetish, odds are these "exercises" cross bounds that shouldn't be crossed.

The underlying mentality, as far as I've garnered, and I don't mean to be the mouthpiece for this forum, but it seems to me to be this:
*Respect women
*Don't break the law

Okay, since you mentioned boats, I'm assuming you own one and take some pride in it. Think of this example:
Some guy gets on a forum and brags about "borrowing" his neighbor's boat without consent while the neighbor's out of town and takes it out for a joy-ride. He doesn't damage the boat, replaces it when he's done, and talks about how he's going to do it again the next time the guy and his family vanish for a few days on vacation.
Doesn't this sound just a tad bit wrong to you?
What if you were the owner of the boat?

Next example:
Another guy does the same thing, only this time he manages to puncture a hole in the bottom of the thing. The "beauty" of this story, however, is that he replaces the boat and the owners never find out who did it.
Would you be cool with listening to some guy brag about such mischief?
Since said guy is a fellow boat lover, should that excuse his behavior in destroying or maiming another person's property?

So again, it's not a matter of "brand loyalty" or anything like that. Everybody is entitled to whatever fantasy floats their boat (maybe there's a pun in that), but good sense and at least some decency usually dictate what is acceptable behavior and what is questionable behavior.

Hell, if we should be cool hearing about somebody splooging a girl's shoes without her knowing about it, why not be cool with hearing about a guy who steals panties out of laudromats? How about guys who slip drugs into girls' drinks to get them to pass out, just so he can help himself to whatever he wants? What about hearing stories from guys who stake out playgrounds and masturbate to watching children play?

That's the thing...once you allow a certain level of deviance to slide, where does it end?

Posted by Lou Gojira (Member # 983) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Papers:
So I must ask, and this is to all... how would you feel if you were surfing the web and saw your wife, gf, sister, mother, etc. on a fetish website?

It'd be be a bit disturbing, sure, but again, if a girl, no matter who she is, willingly goes barefoot into the eye of the public, she's going to get looked at by either the people who pass her or the people who see her pics.

Here's a question along those lines: Say for example's sake that there are particularly horny boys in the high school where your daughter goes, and they know her to some degree. Can it stand to reason that at least one of these sexually pent-up and frustrated young men could masturbate to her photo(s) in the school yearbook, without her ever knowing about it?

You better believe it can and probably does happen, but at the same time, what can you do about it? Moreso, does anything need to be done about it? If your daughter is a pretty girl these same boys can wank to mental imagery of her just the same, with or without the pics. So then, does that mean she should run in horror whenever she see's a camera?

In the public's eye is just that...the public can see you. If the idea of other guys finding your wife, or girlfriend, or daughter, or sister, or whoever attractive is such an unpleasant thought, the only way to avoid it is to brick up the door and feed her through the window. Folks are going to look at other people...that's unavoidable. The medium by which they view doesn't matter in my opinion. Again, just so long as the pics weren't acquired by nonconsensual means (a spy cam in the changing room at a department store for example), there's nothing that can or should be done.

Yeah, I have to admit...if I saw a candid pic of my mother appear on this forum one day, it'd probably freak me the hell out. But at the same time, the idea of guys even looking at my mom in a sexual way to begin with would freak me the hell out. I know it happens though...guys look and guys think (and I still remember the comments from my friends in high school who took a fancy with my mom *shudder*)...but if mom goes trucking about in public wearing flip-flops, she obviously doesn't care if other people see her feet. If some guy snaps a pic of mom already showing her feet to others by wearing open-toed shoes to begin with, that's his business and the people who may like the pic (and God only knows why *lol*).

I hope I got my point across and didn't just ramble incoherently. [Cool]

Posted by scarlet (Member # 2117) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Papers:

quote:
Originally posted by Lou Gojira:
...if a guy see's her in public and goes home and masturbates to the mental imagery, that's no different than people seeing the pics on the internet and whacking off either.
So I must ask, and this is to all... how would you feel if you were surfing the web and saw your wife, gf, sister, mother, etc. on a fetish website?

I see my GF on a fetish website every day =P

Posted by eyes_on_the_ground (Member # 15950) on :

Stealing is Stealing...

I don't take such a black and white view of life. I earn my living by honest means. I don't necessarily agree with the law a lot of the time, but I live as much as I can as a law abiding citizen.

I don't need to steal for money or food or drugs. I can understand empathetically however that others DO need to steal for money, food etc

Now that I am single, I spend a lot of time working for money, but even money can't buy everything. And possibly, we only live once.

Really I think it's a personal choice. If there is a hereafter (when we die) then you might pay the price for all your mistakes. If there isn't then good luck to those who had the balls to challenge the idea. Let's face it - how scarey are the police? You're not going to gaol for pinching a crusty old pair of shoes. You'll prob get a slap on the wrist.

that's one more mark against foot guys everywhere.

I wasn't aware that foot guys were getting caught making a fool of themselves in public on a regular basis. I hear about it in the news every 5-10 years?

I can't take this argument seriously. If you go around adoring what a lot of people consider the ugliest. smelliest, most unattractive body part then you can't expect normal people to understand. A campaign to improve the public perception of foot fetish guys is a campaign to improve the public perception of UFO spotters.

Every forum group that I've ever read or belonged to has posters who display their feelings in a way that I like to call "brand loyalty".

This is certainly true of my experience of discussion forums/online communities. These arguments usually end in pointless debates that orbit around irreconcilable viewpoints; resurfacing once every now and then until everyone's well sick of them.

I'm for letting everyone get on with their foot-thang, and conveying the thoughts they are otherwise alone with in a place where it's safe to speak freely about them.

What's the point of getting feathers ruffled? If I haven't convinced myself by now that I MUST NEVER DO THIS, then nothing anyone else says is likely to convince me either.

Glad to be a member of this community.

~E~

Posted by Babylonia (Member # 15536) on :

Wow. I can't believe that there are actually people who can rationalize stealing an unsuspecting girl's shoes (or jerking off into them) as being okay.

Posted by eyes_on_the_ground (Member # 15950) on :

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Originally posted by Babylonia:
Wow. I can't believe that there are actually people who can rationalize stealing an unsuspecting girl's shoes (or jerking off into them) as being okay.

Why not? I see highly influencial people being publicly supported for rationalising the most abhorrent crimes. I guess that however, is a discussion for the political board. [Smile]

~E~

Posted by Mr.Papers (Member # 3205) on :

quote:
Originally posted by ledaemon:
Well, actually my wife and her sister are on a fetish website...

lol... So if I saw her in public would it be ok to take some candid pics and put them on one of my sites?

quote:
Originally posted by Lou Gojira:

I hope I got my point across and didn't just ramble incoherently.

No I see your point very cool.

Posted by ozkar (Member # 13264) on :

On any other topic I would probably be going on about how nothing is simple in life...

But this is.

If something doesn't belong to you, don't touch it unless that thing is given to you to touch.

This counts for shoes, video games, feet, elbows, whatever. And for cripes sake, don't be exposing people to your fluids without their expressed consent. Men can carry all kinds of STDs in dormant forms, and women are very susceptible to contracting them, not to mention transmitting them directly to their foot-loving boyfriend or husband, i.e. all of us here.

Posted by Adidas Sandal Fetish (Member # 15036) on :

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Originally posted by Ticklingsolesmaster:
I have seen a few members on here make new posts about Masterbating on thier friends wife's shoes or feet or best friends sister's feet etc... or doing things to thier own sister's feet (foot fetish wise)

And to me when i see posts like theses ones on this forum,i just ask myself where does the line of foot fetish or any fetish general cross?

Maybe i'm just old fashioned (though i'm only 22 years old). But i just really believe in being respectful to girls and having self respectful for not only myself but for also girls as well when it comes to MY FOOT FETISH and girls feet.

So thier is no way in heck that i would even think about masterbating onto a girls foot or inside of her flip flops or sandals no matter how good looking she was or her feet were. My approach is if they approve with thier consent first and are OK with doing things to thier feet then i go ahead and do that. But i wouldn't over cross the line and do anything as bold as masterbating on girls feet or sneeking into thier bed room during the day or night and licking thier bare soles while the girl is sleeping or sniff random girls feet while under a hidden park bench.

It's all about self control and respect for not only yourself as a guy but for the girl also. And i really think that some sick minded guys with a foot fetish don't have that (weather they are serious about doing things to random girls feet or thier own familys feet or not)

I don't mean to cause any waves. I'm just getting this out and discussing.

If you don't like, it don't read about it.

I've noticed that you quite often project your own morality onto other people in this forum.

This is a public forum where people of all persausions come to discuss their interests, I object to you and others attempting to set standards for what is acceptable here.

Posted by ozkar (Member # 13264) on :

Not to pick on the previous poster but they illustrate two important distinctions that need to be made. First, just as I may choose not to read about such things, others have the right to choose not to walk in such things. Second, I'd rather strangers project their morality on my favorite forum than their progeny on my favorite shoes.

Posted by Adidas Sandal Fetish (Member # 15036) on :

quote:
Originally posted by ozkar:
Not to pick on the previous poster but they illustrate two important distinctions that need to be made. First, just as I may choose not to read about such things, others have the right to choose not to walk in such things. Second, I'd rather strangers project their morality on my favorite forum than their progeny on my favorite shoes.

The guy makes a habit of complaining about what other people choose to do, he's perfectly within his rights to do so just as long as it doesn't impact on the freedom of other members to say what they want.

I get the feeling that he's been trying to set the standard for what is and what isin't morally acceptable here which is entirely unacceptable.

Posted by Lou Gojira (Member # 983) on :

I don't take such a black and white view of life. I earn my living by honest means. I don't necessarily agree with the law a lot of the time, but I live as much as I can as a law abiding citizen.

But you're contradicting yourself, because in this thread found here, you clearly discern such an act out of yourself as an "actual crime". In your own words you typed:
"Once or twice I have committed actual crime to remove a pair of shoes from the doorstep of a hotty."

So which is it? Are you law-abiding or are you a law-breaker? And please, don't try to say something along the lines of "but I only steal such-n-such..." Sorry, again, stealing is stealing. It's the same as lying, you either tell the truth or you tell a falsehood. It's easy to kid yourself into thinking gray areas can exist in every aspect of life, but there are some areas where they certainly cannot. What if you knew a guy who claims he "only steals cigarettes" for example's sake...would you feel safe if he was in your house and you weren't home to watch him?

I wasn't aware that foot guys were getting caught making a fool of themselves in public on a regular basis. I hear about it in the news every 5-10 years?

I can't take this argument seriously. If you go around adoring what a lot of people consider the ugliest. smelliest, most unattractive body part then you can't expect normal people to understand. A campaign to improve the public perception of foot fetish guys is a campaign to improve the public perception of UFO spotters.

Whether you take it seriously or not, can you honestly claim that the perception of the general public toward the adoration of female feet is smiled upon? The frequency of foot guys who make fools of themselves is irrelevant. The fact remains that every time one manages to look stupid, it just compounds a stereotype that is already negative to begin with. Throwing gasoline on a fire, so to speak, is never a good idea. Maybe you don't care if foot admiration is ever put in a favorable light (I can't say as it's priority one for myself, but that's for another debate), but a lot of foot men do.

Going on your own words, however, I'm lead to believe that you want a more general acceptance of your desires when you typed this:
I'm for letting everyone get on with their foot-thang, and conveying the thoughts they are otherwise alone with in a place where it's safe to speak freely about them.

If acceptance doesn't matter, or shouldn't matter, then how could you ever perceive or even notice that you're "alone" in your desires? If you didn't feel a guilty kind of tug in your desires, or an obvious level of isolation, then you could speak a lot more freely of them than you apparently feel right now. And again, if you're getting caught stealing a woman's shoes to feed your needs, that is not going to help any form of acceptance along...and you're putting yourself, as well as others, back at square one in a lot of peoples' minds.

What's the point of getting feathers ruffled? If I haven't convinced myself by now that I MUST NEVER DO THIS, then nothing anyone else says is likely to convince me either.

True enough, but how can you expect an open-arms kind of welcome within a foot community when you make light of stealing and commiting nonconsentual and questionable acts toward women to satisfy yourself? Why not brag about robbing a store or beating up an old lady too? Just because you're able to justify your inconsistencies within your own mind doesn't mean that everybody else will be able to see things the same way...nor does it mean they have to.

These arguments usually end in pointless debates that orbit around irreconcilable viewpoints; resurfacing once every now and then until everyone's well sick of them.

You're correct...but this isn't going to be such a case. If you want to be a part of the forum and give your thoughts on things, that's fine. But please don't expect people to smile merrily when you brag about commiting, as you said yourself, an "actual crime". You're more than welcome around these forums, but bragging about doing things like this most certainly is not. That's all I'm going to say on the matter. I'll take it a step further if I need to, but do both yourself and me a favor and please don't let it come to that.

quote:
Originally posted by Babylonia:
Wow. I can't believe that there are actually people who can rationalize stealing an unsuspecting girl's shoes (or jerking off into them) as being okay.

Same here Babylonia...same here.

Posted by ozkar (Member # 13264) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Adidas Sandal Fetish:
The guy makes a habit of complaining about what other people choose to do, he's perfectly within his rights to do so just as long as it doesn't impact on the freedom of other members to say what they want.

I get the feeling that he's been trying to set the standard for what is and what isin't morally acceptable here which is entirely unacceptable.

Not even a princess could detect a pea under all the layers of irony that last sentence invokes.

[ August 01, 2006, 09:09 PM: Message edited by: ozkar ]

Posted by Lou Gojira (Member # 983) on :

quote:
Originally posted by Adidas Sandal Fetish:
I get the feeling that he's been trying to set the standard for what is and what isin't morally acceptable here which is entirely unacceptable.

You're wrong Adidas...the only person who can claim that they set the "moral standard" around here and be truthful about it is Wu himself, and I can safely say that he's no more cool with this than a lot of other people on here so far.

I agree that we should listen to people of all persuasions when it comes to this aspect of womanhood that we all admire so much...hell, our individual desires practically span the spectrum, and that's okay! But bragging about nonconsentual acts and actual thieving, no matter the underlying desire, is not cool and shouldn't have to be. If you want to brag about forcing yourself on a girl or stealing her personal belongings, take it somewhere else. We're supposed to be guys who like female feet, not animals who can't control themselves. If you want to brag about this kind of behavior, this isn't the forum for you.

Posted by ledaemon (Member # 198) on :

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Originally posted by Mr.Papers:

quote:
Originally posted by ledaemon:
Well, actually my wife and her sister are on a fetish website...
lol... So if I saw her in public would it be ok to take some candid pics and put them on one of my sites?

No need for that silly boy! You just click the links below and pay a little dough for pics and clips like everybody else! Neatly transferred to your harddrive anonymously with little wait, no hassle, and no problem from me kicking your teeth in through the back of your skull after shoving your 35mm down your throat! [Laugh]

(BTW that's a joke son...)

On another note,

If some folks here are going to start moralizing about alot of the comments posted on a sexual fetish forum they probably need to ask themselves why they are even here in the first place. If you consider yourself of pure moral fiber and a pious person should you really be slamming the ham to pictures of girls posing their feet on the web anyway? C'mon, I can't and don't condone the unsavory or criminal activities mentioned by a few posters, but then again why play the role of the puritanical evangelist on a sexual orientated website? I don't think its going to do much to change a person's views of anything. It will have the opposite effect and encourage them to argue the point even more basically.

I'll shut up for a bit now.

Posted by Lou Gojira (Member # 983) on :

quote:
Originally posted by ledaemon:
If some folks here are going to start moralizing about alot of the comments posted on a sexual fetish forum they probably need to ask themselves why they are even here in the first place. If you consider yourself of pure moral fiber and a pious person should you really be slamming the ham to pictures of girls posing their feet on the web anyway? C'mon, I can't and don't condone the unsavory or criminal activities mentioned by a few posters, but then again why play the role of the puritanical evangelist on a sexual orientated website? I don't think its going to do much to change a person's views of anything. It will have the opposite effect and encourage them to argue the point even more basically.

I'll shut up for a bit now.

Speaking for myself, the only reason I'm trying to discuss this matter is to give a somewhat friendly warning that these kinds of posts aren't welcome around here. You've been here a long time Bro...I'm sure you might remember a few guys from time to time bragging about doing things without consent to a girl's feet while she slept...one guy even said that he was going to slip a girl a mickey at a coming party just so he could have his way with her feet. Where are those braggarts now?

Personally, I'd like to keep all the members here that I can. You're right though...practically all the time, debating these things only provokes more arguements.

Posted by Adidas Sandal Fetish (Member # 15036) on :

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Not even a princess could detect a pea under all the layers of irony that last sentence invokes. [/QB]

Enlighten me as to how you find that sentence ironic?

This is the first time I've spoken out about that posters tendency to come down on others for what he finds morally wrong where as he's made a habit of pushing his views into the face of everyone, from his beliefs on prostitution and sexual intercourse outside of a relationship through to the topic of this discussion.

This isin't the place for someone to come on and attack other peoples idea of what it is to be a foot fetishist or what constitutes acceptable foot fetishism, just live and let live and accept the variety that comes with such a wide ranging fetish.

I'm not the one trying to stifle freedom of expression here, I want everyone to be free to share their fantasy/fetish with others of a like mind without having to face criticisim for it...if I wanted morality sermons I'd be in church.

[ August 01, 2006, 10:36 PM: Message edited by: Adidas Sandal Fetish ]

Posted by Mr.Papers (Member # 3205) on :

quote:
Originally posted by ledaemon:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Papers:

quote:
Originally posted by ledaemon:
Well, actually my wife and her sister are on a fetish website...
lol... So if I saw her in public would it be ok to take some candid pics and put them on one of my sites?

No need for that silly boy! You just click the links below and pay a little dough for pics and clips like everybody else! Neatly transferred to your harddrive anonymously with little wait, no hassle, and no problem from me kicking your teeth in through the back of your skull after shoving your 35mm down your throat! (BTW that's a joke son...)

lol your too old to catch me, I'm too quick.
Also, I did see your clipstore and the sleepy feet one and two were hot. Now bash me for liking
sleepy feet. [Roll Eyes]

Posted by ozkar (Member # 13264) on :

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Enlighten me as to how you find that sentence ironic?

I would much rather not explain this because it may give others reasons to be against you but since you implore me to I feel compliance is the most respectful discourse.

You are condemning the act of setting standards for the board and than proceed to set a standard of your own immediately thereafter, by saying that this behavior is unacceptable. I find that to be a logical fallacy, in this case, best described as irony.

Classical irony describes an event that was conveyed in a manner where it would intentionally be interpreted differently by two parties. One party was considered to be wise, and the other foolish. In this case the conveyer of the event and the foolish party were one in the same. In contemporary times irony has come to define the occurrence of any improbable coincidence, like publicly stating that a person publicly stating what is unacceptable for the forum is unacceptable.

I have little interest in defaming your character, so hopefully this is the last time I'm dragged into anything that can be easily misconstrued as such by other board members.

[ August 01, 2006, 11:18 PM: Message edited by: ozkar ]

Posted by Stryder_007 (Member # 13405) on :

Ok this should end. The bottom line again is fantasy vs reality. And that issue, goes way beyond having a foot fetish. Just don't cross the line. Getting a quick sniff of a girls shoe when no ones around? Sure why not? No harm in that at all. But that doesn't go ahead and give you the right to go in bust a nut in them. Let's be honest here. I'm sure everyone in here at some point or another has gotten a quick sniff of a barefoot and been sly about it with the girl probably not knowing or passed out or something. And if you say otherwise, I would be hard pressed to beleive you.

We all act out are fanatasies to a degree. But that degree has to be within certain limits. Like Lou mentioned a guy wanting to slip a girl a mickey to play with her feet-WAY past the limit, since mickeys are illegal, and can be fatal when mixed with alochol. And the fact that you would take all the trouble to find the drug, find the girl alone, get her to drink it, and make up the story and see her and act as if nothing happened turns it into being planned so much that your on the same level as a predator. You should have just gone to a strip club or called a hooker or foot diva who specializes in foot fetish.

This is not a cry for all of us to be holyer than thou and get on a soapbaox and preach. It's about what is acceptable and what is not. And I think everyone here has enough common sense to judge that.