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I don`t want to sound like a jackass....I´m just curious (as a non-english speaker).
Wouldn`t the correct grammar be "should have"?
Almost on a daily basis I read "should of" somewhere. I even read it in an english language music magazine the other day...the entire interview kept saying "I should of done this", etc.
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RPM you are one of the most dope dudes on this board and you may realize, but I know, that a number models that I have landed off boards or via e-mail said they came over for the shoot unaccompanied because of my writing style (proper spelling, grammar, punctuation). I am with you on a number of your posts, especially (xpecially) this one.
Some how, "how come" has creeped into all hollywood scripts and common speach. How tiring is it to say, "Why what?" to anyone spewing "How come," all the time?
I remember my math teacher put that onto the board one day...he was a chronic alki. But I never forgot that he put up a bunch of other ones as well that he would hear in the hallway.
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quote:Originally posted by footjoyboy: What may be considered incorrect today may be acceptable in the future; that's how languages change and evolve.
Judgment used to be judgement. Color is still colour in many places. Phraseology works the same way.
_fjb_
I think I once read that quite a few words in American English were changed because Noah Webster (the guy who published the first American dictionary in the early 19th century) wasn`t too fond of the British and "the King`s English". So he changed the English language by simplifying the spelling of certain words (colour/color, etc). It was his way of emancipating himself from the British crown. I believe in the UK you would still write judgement and colour.
I don`t think grammatical mistakes (meaning whole sentence structures) are ever going to be "dictionary" correct. But please correct me if I´m wrong.
In German we have a similar "problem". The correct phrase would be "groesser als" (translated: "bigger than") but loads of people say "groesser wie" ("bigger as"). Even though half the German nation uses the grammatically incorrect phrase (since a few decades) it is still incorrect and would count as a written mistake in a school exam.
quote:Originally posted by Hal: Thanks for your replies, guys.
quote:Originally posted by footjoyboy: What may be considered incorrect today may be acceptable in the future; that's how languages change and evolve.
Judgment used to be judgement. Color is still colour in many places. Phraseology works the same way.
_fjb_
I think I once read that quite a few words in American English were changed because Noah Webster (the guy who published the first American dictionary in the early 19th century) wasn`t too fond of the British and "the King`s English". So he changed the English language by simplifying the spelling of certain words (colour/color, etc). It was his way of emancipating himself from the British crown. I believe in the UK you would still write judgement and colour.
I don`t think grammatical mistakes (meaning whole sentence structures) are ever going to be "dictionary" correct. But please correct me if I´m wrong.
In German we have a similar "problem". The correct phrase would be "groesser als" (translated: "bigger than") but loads of people say "groesser wie" ("bigger as"). Even though half the German nation uses the grammatically incorrect phrase (since a few decades) it is still incorrect and would count as a written mistake in a school exam.
-Hal-
To further expand on RPM's (excellent) reply - one of the things that exacerbates the wrongful use of "should of" by functionally-literate adults in this country, is the common written contraction of the word / expression:
"Should've" ... it's a grammatically correct and acceptable, written use of the phrase, and further mimics the sound of "should of".
Incidentally, your German paralel is a good one.
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Ben
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I hate it when people ask "how come?" I don't know why, it just irritates me. The worst for me is chatspeak. That, I absolutely loathe. To this day, I always chat or AIM with proper grammar and pronounciation, unless I'm spelling out a word that I use in real life casual speak, like "gonna" for instance, or when I shorten words that end in "-ing" into "-in'". I do it on purpose to give the illusion that I chat the way I talk.
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I see I have arrived late to this thread and am not surprised to see that those participating are members who have always expressed themselves in full, complete, gramatically correct and punctuated sentences!
Le Daemon brings up another good point. I must agree that whether or not it originated as "aks" it has not been spelled that way since I have been around (and that's starting to be a very long time)and have never seen it or heard it that way. Ask and you shall receive! Ax and you'll be a few inches shorter!
Ben and RPM have given great feedback and examples for the reason some people may say "should of" instead of the correct "should have". I believe some of this stems from the new way of teaching in some of the schools. I know I was shocked when I found out that instead of teaching the correct spelling of a word from day 1, they were teaching phonetic pronunciation instead and it was acceptable for the child to write "mission" as "mishun".
I also agree with Salvy_Mic that the IM, AIM, test messaging and such only serves to decrease the individuals knowledge of correct grammar, spelling etc. Everyone laughs at me because I have trouble writing any other way than in full sentences. Thank God I have unlimited texting on my phone! LOL
bluetoelover, you make me laugh. I didn't even need to see the translation and knew exactly what you were asking! LOL I must say Bostonians butcher the English language on a daily basis if not with running words together, with our unique "accent" LOL
fjb - you are right that language does change and that perhaps in the future it may be perfectly acceptable to say "I axed you didj jeet yet? LOL
OK - I guess I've rambled on enough here!
"gotta go!"
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I use 'should of' but should have used should have' but 'should of' sounds more natural to me than 'should have'. I'll try to use 'should have' next time instead of 'should of'. So if you see me use 'should of' instead of 'should have' then correct me please by sayin' you should have use 'should have' and should not have used 'should of'
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