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What'd you guys think about this a few days or so ago when it happened. I think it was a wise move in a time when people argue that Bush isn't doing a good job or whatnot. It was funny and gave us a new view on how we see this First Lady.
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Yeah, the politicians are laughing all the way to the bank. Fucking crooks. We have all sorts of REAL problems here in the states, and all the elected asswipes ever do is waste time, money, resources, etc. on bickering, party-games, and their own payraises. Yeah, it makes me real happy to see Laura and W doing fooking stand-up comedy. I fliped to CSPAN last week, around 1Pm, and there was some R&B group from the 60's AT THE PODIUM, singing to congress. All the white senators were swaying awkwardly, trying to look like they were enjoying it, when you know they'd rather be listening to John Tesh or something lame. I felt like gouging my eyes out. -And NOT paying taxes. JMO!
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Well, at least the standups make us forget about some of the things that aren't necessarily going so well right now in some people's eyes about the Bush agenda for '05.
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Just my opinion: And what to hell he thinks about going for oil in Alaska to one of the last natural places?
Its a long time till 09, Im sorry for you/us but most of US- people didnt know it better last year, they have been manipulated by Tv and religion ! Big problem in USA is that too much believe in what your TV-channels are bringing in your houses and living rooms, not all humans are thinking! Dont misunderstand what I am trying to say but another big problem in your cool country is the religion and the people who say that they are "rebirth christs"! I mean if Bush really is a christ why he goes to Iraq and let kill innocent people for oil and tells everybody he is doing this for freedom of the Iraqui people? Dont think that the war in Afghanistan will be over soon, the terrorists are happy that Bush is US-president again! They love an easy person like him to fight . Do you know how many money Bush and his friends have "lost" in this "war" I think with a small part of this $ a lot of people in USA could have health insurence, food and many things for normal living!
I hope you guys dont mind my thoughts ! Anyway, after bad times good times must be in sight!
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quote:Originally posted by Toesonthenoes: Dont misunderstand what I am trying to say but another big problem in your cool country is the religion and the people who say that they are "rebirth christs"! I mean if Bush really is a christ why he goes to Iraq and let kill innocent people for oil and tells everybody he is doing this for freedom of the Iraqui people?
No, the problem isn't religion, it's how religion is being used, perverted, to mask an underlying intent.
Just keep in mind what Jesus Himself said about this: "A healthy tree does not bear bad fruit, nor does a poor tree bear good fruit. Every tree is known by the fruit it bears; you do not pick figs from thorn bushes or gather grapes from bramble bushes. A good person brings good out of the treasure of good things in his heart; a bad person brings bad out of his treasure of bad things. For the mouth speaks what the heart is full of." Luke 6:43-45
Bush can play up the whole "Christian" act, but he's only fooling himself. Look at the "fruit" Bush is bearing, and ask yourself if he's the "Christian" he claims to be. So again, it's not the religion that's the problem, it's the liar hiding behind it who is.
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Definatley it is the way how religion is being used! I have to correct myself a bit about my words, special the word "rebirth", I meant "reborn"! Sorry for my bad english, but Im learning. Lou, you are very educated about bible and other stuff! Bush is and will always be fooling himself, this is sad but true! Its awful that he as first man in the states calls himself a christ and that the young children and students in USA may will see him as "good man for moral and freedom" !
I am very happy to hear and read that there are more persons like you who have there own opinion and didnt welcome all whats going on! Really glad to hear that! Thanks for reply!
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quote:I mean if Bush really is a christ why he goes to Iraq and let kill innocent people for oil and tells everybody he is doing this for freedom of the Iraqui people? Dont think that the war in Afghanistan will be over soon, the terrorists are happy that Bush is US-president again! They love an easy person like him to fight . Do you know how many money Bush and his friends have "lost" in this "war" I think with a small part of this $ a lot of people in USA could have health insurence, food and many things for normal living!
First off, Bush went to Iraq because of the concern of WMD's which I admit have never been found. Secondly, he is not in Iraq for oil. We have in no way benifited from this by receiving oil. Third, most of the killing of innocent civilians has been carried out by insurgents (including disgruntled Sunnis who benifitted under Saddams rule and terrorists who are fellow Muslims). The US military has been engaging with such insurgents and killing them, not innocent civilians.
The war in Afghanastan was won over 2 years ago. We have troops there helping to maintain peace as well as round up reminents of Al Queda. I don't think terrorists are happy that this president ousted the Taliban who fully supported their terrorist camps which were operational during the '90s. I also don't think that they are happy about their higher ups such as Abu Faraj al-Libbi or Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (who himself organized the 9/11 attacks) being captured. I doubt that they are thrilled about the fact that many of their funds have been cut off as well. One of the last times (if not the last) that Bin Laden appeared in a video, he addressed Americans in a somewhat civil manner criticizing many of the things Bush has done in the last 4 years. He mentioned our security lies in our hands. This video aired just several days before our presidential election. Don't you find it ironic, one of his few videos since he's been on the run basically tells us to dump Bush several days before the election. Do you think Bin Laden likes Bush? He's went from a life of roaming all of Afghanastan freely to hauling his dialysis machine through the mountains between Afghanastan and Pakistan constantly on the run. He went from living in houses to hiding in caves. So do I think the terrorists are happy Bush is president again.....hell no!!!!! Their lives are in disaray.
Finally, I agree, we do have some domestic issues to deal with, healthcare being a very big one. However, in how many countries can a homeless crack addict go into and emergency department, complain of chest pain, receive thousands of dollars of tests, and not be expected to pay a dime? Don't you worry about our country, most people here live much better than they would anywhere else in the world. Our poor on welfare still have electricity, running water, televisions and often cars. Tell that to the millions of people in the world who live in mud huts and still die of diseases that we've irradicated in the US.
All I'm trying to say is that its fine to disagree with Bush. I disagree with him on several issues. But don't make it sound like we are horrible, murderous people, who have accomplished nothing to improve our safety or others' in this world.
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Bro lambskin, when sorry if it sounds like that, it wasnt in my mind to make you or any other feel that way! And I am worried about your country because I like USA and its model for the EU! My opinion (i hope Im very wrong): I just wanted you to make some thoughts why Bush and his fellows are not going to stop that terrible acts! Do ya really think its over? Maybe you remember one of his statements in the past when he was telling in a very proud way: "I am a war president!" He is the president of USA and your country isnt a little unimportant state in the middle of nowhere! He has the obligation to keep peace and freedom! Why do you think since Bush is the first man in the USA the economy runs down, terrorist acts increases and anybody in the whole world must be afraid of what comes up next? The video from Bin Laden which came up short before election was placed to spread fear and it helps Bush being reelected! Why: a lot of people didnt know whom to choose, they didnt understand Kerrys statements, but they very well understood Bushs war arguements because Bushs government is and will always be dealing to fear you people with the probability case of an terror attack ! Like I said I really hope to be wrong !
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Toesonthenoes, hey, I didn't mean to sound harsh to you as well. I just don't think things are as bad as many people make them out to be.
First, our economy was heading into a recession when Bush took over. The attacks on 9/11 (just less than 8 months into his presidency) dealt a real blow to the American economy. The economy is recovering with hundreds of thousands of new jobs added each month.
Second, terrorist acts have not increased. We have not had a terrorist attack on our soil since 9/11 and I believe it is because their home base of Afghanastan has been disrupted. Other than the car bombings in Iraq, global terrorism is on the decline.
Third, I and many Americans are not scared, we are mad. I am sick and tired of my hard earned tax money being shipped all over the world only to have other countries constantly criticize us and oppose our desire to protect ourselves. When the Tsunami struck, George Bush gave 500 million dollars about 5 days after the disaster. The thanks we got was, "it took too long for the US to respond". Whose military was spread across Indonesia and Sri Lanka to oversee the safe delivery of food, water, and medical supplies? The United States. And finally, I find it ironic that most of our money goes towards a nation with more Muslims than any others and yet other nations of Islam such as Saudi Arabia and other wealthy countries contribute a tiny fraction of what we send.
So what I'm saying is that many of us are not afraid of what comes next, but we are angry at the lack of respect we receive. We are angry that terrosists were allowed to thrive in Afghanastan, even bombing the World Trade Center in 1993 with nothing being done on a global scale. Finally, someone is doing something about it.
Was the Iraq war entirely justified? That can be debated. But I feel that the world is a better place with Afghanastan as a democracy, Al Qada scattered in some mountains, many of its members dead or in jail, and Saddam locked up. If you disagree with that last statement, well, then I think you are wrong.
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Well, lambskin, there is no way that we can say that the situation there now is better than before. Its what we should believe! I would love to agree with your last statement but I cant do that ! Maybe I will another time but I wont believe anything what comes out from Bushs mouth and its members from government! And to your statement about the donation from Bush to the Tsunami countries, yes, its a good thing that he gave some money but if you compare it with the costs of this stupid war then....? Yeah, your troups have been filmed when they were delivering "First Aid"-supplies and other stuff! God may bless them for that, I mean this very serious!! It was very good to see the US-military doing some human care, excellent!!
I just hope that the coming 3.5 years are over very soon and a new US-president will make the world to more peacefully place for us all! He/She will have to do a lot of work to clean up the mess from Bush!
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quote:Originally posted by AFfootdude05: What'd you guys think about this a few days or so ago when it happened. I think it was a wise move in a time when people argue that Bush isn't doing a good job or whatnot. It was funny and gave us a new view on how we see this First Lady.
I saw it too and thought at the time...For how long did they had to rehearse in order to pull that act? It doesn´t make me laugh, it just gives me chills because that sort of action is just to gain popularity, to show Bush and his wife as part of the People, regular persons. But it all sounds so fake, that in my eyes, it just has the opposite effect and shows what how apparencies are important and used to fool so many... Just my opinion... Kiss
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Oh, my brothers and sisters, everyone is right here... On the one hand, U.S. citizens are being fed bullshit on a daily basis by their t.v.s, and yes politicians are and have always been manipulatng the "facts" to meet their own selfish ends.
On the other hand, Al Queda is fucked in the ass, afgahnistan is back to ruling itself, and Iraq wiil be soon. It was and is a good thing to fight the assholes in the world and stop them from harming innocents. Saddam is a total asshole. Let's not mince words here. He gassed hundreds of thousands of Kurds, invaded Kuwait, and funded terrorists. He deserved to be ousted by force. As for the butt-fukers who are car-bombing Iraq's civilian population, well, THEY are from SYRIA. Hmmmm.
Let's recap: Americans are generally stupid and brainwashed, terrorists are getting fucked in the ass, and Europeans everywhere are still looking down their noses at the U.S. for participating in a holy war that's been going on for a thousand years.
What else is new? What if the assholes killed hundreds of Spanish civilians and threatened more if they didn't pull out of Iraq? Oh, wait, that already happened, and they acted like pussies and pulled out of Iraq. France, Germany, and Britain were taking kickback money from Saddam in the "food for oil" program, until we attacked. How fashionable it is these days to criticize ANYTHING the US does. "BOO HOO HOO. The big, bad US is bullying around those POOR Jihadists!!! If we only had the resources, we would too, but we don't, so we'll just sit on our asses and breed contempt for "Imperial America". Why is it that nobody gaffs on G.Britain for it's 300 years of imperialism, and the fucked up scenarios which resulted from that and are still a big problem today? Let's talk about the Ottoman Empire being divvied up by G.Britain and then we'll see why the Middle East is still messed up.
And as for the money being spent on nationalized healthcare? I think health care is the best it can be when it's privatized, we get immediate treatment, and decent treatment at that, and don't have to wait around for our welfare-hospices to "get around" to treating us, while disease festers and we get sicker, as in Europe. Doctors in Spain perform more C-sections than anywhere in the world, because they get more money from the welfare-state for them and they take less time than natural childbirth. The QUALITY goes down, the wait times increase, and I hope never to see that crap here. Spend the money kicking ass.
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That's pretty clever wrinklesguy. Did you think that one up by yourself or did you come across that in a book of witty remarks?
Maybe I should try logically explaining why its better that Al Queda is disbanded with many of its leaders in jail or dead to a group of fools....oh wait, that's what I'm doing here. There was one person whom I was having the above disagreement with. There was also another who supported what I had said as well. If you disagree perhaps you would care to enlighten me on your views.
My political views regarding this subject are simple: I want for myself, my family, and my friends to be able to go about our lives in this country without fear of terrorists. I don't think its fair that I can't see my fiancee off at her gait when she flies somewhere or cross over to Canada anymore without showing a passport and explaining my life history. This was all due to 9/11 and the terrorists who organized it. If you think for one second that we were better off 4 years ago when Al Queda had several fully operational terrorist training camps supported by the Taliban government of Afghanastan then you are a dead wrong.
We sat back for the previous 8 years and watched different sites of US intrest be attacked, including the WTC in '93, and did nothing. We knew they were operating out of Afghanastan, yet we didn't care. Then the way of life as we knew it was changed. Finally, we have a president who is not going to sit by and watch these twisted bastards plot and scheme on how to kill our citizens. Like I said before, I admit the Iraq war is debatable, but I know that we are more safe now than we were prior to 9/11.
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