"Rezko has been involved in fundraising for local Illinois Democratic and Republican politicians since the 1980s."
so really, if you're going to use the "guilt by association" angle, NO politician, republican OR democrat, should be allowed to remain in service if they are from illinois?
what a joke.
you honestly think that simply because obama's from illinois, where there was a corrupt fundraiser who dealt with republicans AND democrats, that he should be impeached?
where's the proof obama knew ANYTHING about ANY shady dealings by rezko? there is none. so this movement is demanding impeachment based solely on a fallacious rhetorical strategy - guilt by association. well, fuck, this rezko asshole was "associated" with half of washington.
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"The constant refrain of Obama defenders is that he is being unfairly criticized because his problematic friends and acquaintances represent nothing more than “guilt by association.” Taken on a case by case basis, such a defense might ring true. But Obama’s problem is that he has so many friends and associates where “guilt by association” is the explanation given by his campaign that one begins to wonder when we can declare the candidate just plain “guilty” of using horrendous judgment and question whether his connection to some of these characters actually goes beyond innocence of wrongdoing."
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That's a very provocative quotation, but it again suffers from yet another rhetorical fallacy: "appeal to ignorance". i.e., Moran is saying that because we don't know FOR SURE that Obama ISN'T guilty, that means he MUST be guilty. It's hardly an argument.
American politics are corrupt. American politicians, when they are not simply corrupt themselves, are usually at least surrounded by corruption. If you want to demonize ANYONE in American politics, choose "guilt by association" as your method and you will surely have much success! This is the culture, the system in which American politicians are forced to operate, regardless of their own personal integrity.
Point being, if you're going to start calling for a presidential impeachment, you'll need a lot more than that. Ya might be jumping the gun a bit.
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Impeach EVERYONE alike..spare no one,{as long as WE the people get to run the Impeachment hearings and are able to throw the gavel down},it looks to be more of the same this time around I am afraid.
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"The main Stream Media has done a poor job of covering Senator Obama."
Whoever is behind this, good luck getting a following if you can't realize that mainstream is actually one word.
It's quite sad, Secondtimer, that you went against your original statement that you would respect the president no matter what. To want someone impeached before they take office is a gross sense of disrespect.
I think you'd have a much better case of impeaching George W. Bush than Obama anyday.
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Impeaching means bring charges against in a court of law, do your homework my good friend. So there's no "throwing out" of anyone..just court precedings. Depends on what the charges are..let's hear Second Timer on why he should be "Impeached" if you will...
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"Can we Impeach Obama before he's Inaugurated? It is impossible to believe BHO didn't get some form of "help" from this weasel they call a Governor! In typical Obama fashion, He's throwing him "under the Bus", just like his Racist Reverend Wright! Is this man supposed to be "Presidential"? He is a bigger skunk than most of US gave him credit! He's trashing His OWN Party! Can He be "recalled", or Impeached!?? 1 month ago Additional Details
1 month ago Double Olly, I like the way you think. To twits out there requesting "evidence", I'm a firm believer in "Common Sense"! Try it sometime, if you have ANY! 1 month ago Obama was NOT doing the last job he had been givin. Therefore, he was not worthy of a "promotion". IF the "Electors" follow the Constitution, he won't have his un-worthy promotion. Let's see how badly Illinois/Chicago Politics has infected OUR system. 1 month ago Kelly, Obama is just as dirty & un-worthy as the Governor. I'm pointing out his lack of character. He's like the "pot calling the kettle black" here!" Yahoo Answer & Question Board
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Sore losers are such pussys, regardless of who you voted for this is the beauty of a democracy. If your a true American you'll support WHOEVER is our president and pray for the best! It truely angers me sometimes that I fought for the freedoms that you pussys hold dear. I'd love to put you pussys on the front lines of a war ridden area and IF you make it back, see if you act the same!!!!
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so you supported george bush for 8 years? and "prayed for the best?"
get a clue
hey tough guy, i'm 6 foot tall, weigh 240, play racquetball 3 days a week, and ride my bike (outside or inside) 2 days a week. i hardly think if you were standing in front of me that you would call me a "pussy."
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This is exactly why Conservatives are losing ground with a lot of people. Same old bitter, divisive, lopsided "holier-than-thou" politics. But when you've elevated the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter and Michelle Malkin to the status of gods, I suppose that's not surprising...
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actually second timer, rush and ann coulter MAY be more popular now, but only amongst the religious right and social conservatives.
however, there is currently a consensus in the republican party that, if they are to see success in future elections, they will need to move away from the evangelist-pandering social conservative angle that seems to have taken over the republican party over the past decade or two. americans are sick of that crap, and even the republican party is coming around regarding that. if they are to succeed in the future, they need to move back to their fiscal conservative roots.
i think rush and coulter will be increasingly shunned by any republican who wants votes. face it, those two are simply out to "shock" and make a quick buck, while rallying the religious right and the particularly bigoted segments of the american population. thankfully, they'll be on their way out soon enough. americans have had enough of their poison.
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You mean "LIBERAL" americans have had enough of their poison?
You leftists kill me. Do you really want to stand behind the statement that Rush Limbaugh will be "on his way out soon?" Are you serious? Have you been that CNN'ed? That NBC'ed?
Rush has been going strong since 1988. That's 20 years. All of a sudden you libs seem to think everything or everyone you've ever hated is going to magically "go away" because the Messiah has put this false notion of unity in all of your pea-brains.
Sorry, ain't happenin. I'll bet ya anything on it!
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