quote:Originally posted by High_Arch_Analyst: Mikey and 2nd, you guys are just beating at a dead horse.
None of your arguments are going to convince anybody but yourselves that showing your face makes a model anymore superior (or whatever) than those who remain anonymous.
if our arguments aren't going to convince anybody to think otherwise, why start this thread in the first place?
sounds to me like your mind was already made up
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I started the thread because I appreciate opinions other than my own. I have a clear view on the subject, yes, but I am open minded. If a position is so compelling, it may cause me to re-evaluate my position. At this point, regarding this issue, it has not happend. Still, I have read interesting and respectable opinions on both sides.
I agree in particular with Tylers initial post, regarding being proud, and not being ashamed, but it's a little too idealistic. Maybe over time foot lovers will be able to be more open and out there with our interests. I applaud those who are doing so in a positive way now. In the end I can understand the desire to keep the whole thing anonymous. It allows people to have their cake and eat it too, that seems like a pretty smart way to proceed if you have any reservations about putting yourself completely out there, but want to play the game. If they can get something out of it that is fulfilling I say go for it. Clearly, given the large number of successful "faceless" models out there, some people appreciate amd find their work fulfilling too. Thats a net positive for all.
Also, because of this thread I started noticing, if you take away the larger foot fetish sites attached to porn networks, at a glance it appears a large number of small site models go "faceless". Also, at a glance, a large number of contributors seem to post "faceless" pics here too. So while the consensus among viewers is for full disclosure, the reality for content providers, particularly those whose primary business is not being a foot model is to remain anonymous. I'm not saying it means anything, it's just an observation.
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who are the successful faceless foot models?
i know there was soccer mom but she didn't last too long, i think a large part of her success was because she had sessions with her fans
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Just from the front page of Wu's: Nicole from Feetweek, Randy from Platform HighHeels, Michelle from MicheeMe and Ms Jessica from ToetallySexy, who if I recall correctly, her husband got in trouble at work over her old site as was discussed in this post: http://www.wusfeetlinks.com/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=006541
It has been speculated that this Michelle is now Ms. Jessica and the reason why her site is faceless. Who's to say why some of the others mentioned in the same post are gone now, as has been speculated before, breakups, problems with work, conflicts with time or whatever.
The topic has come up over and over on this forum about the terrible stigma or PR problem foot fetishism has in society, regardless of whether it is right or wrong. This forum has been one (safe) haven for the expression of those ideas and feelings, and for that, I'm thankful. ned
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michelle got in trouble becuase her site was basically porn, not just FEET MODELING
are the other girls you mentioned really popular? i never see their names mentioned on other foot forums
those girls are clearly selling jerkoff material, they are not modeling
big difference than the faceless foot models who are just modeling their feet
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I doubt outside observers will be so clueless as to figure out that sites that just show models and their feet are being used as jerk-off material just the same as sights that blatently make that apparent. Imagine having to explain a "just feet" sights purpose, you can call it art, self expression, entertainment or a hobby, but some people are going to call it weird, gross, stupid, or softcore porn (depending on how suggestive the models poses and outfits are). Also, even if an outsider were to start at a "just feet" sight, if they just follow the links on the page, it will only be few click before they end up on page with worship and footjobs or with links to such material like Wu's -- allowing them to make whatever connections they like fair, unfair, or otherwise. Both types of sights are very closely related and it won't take a rocket scientist to make the connection of what viewers at both sights are doing with the material.
Sucess is relative, in this biz, I measure success by being able to survive, because almost nobody outside of the large porn networks makes big rev and/or any profit on foot fetish, even network sights make peanuts relative other businesses. Foot fetish is largely a lifestyle business for people who really like feet.
Also, I see success as developing enough of a following to where your getting enough out of your efforts to make it worth your while, which may have little to do with making profit.
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quote:Originally posted by Mikey P: michee mee was not always faceless
michelle got in trouble becuase her site was basically porn, not just FEET MODELING
are the other girls you mentioned really popular? i never see their names mentioned on other foot forums
those girls are clearly selling jerkoff material, they are not modeling
big difference than the faceless foot models who are just modeling their feet
Exactly! Those girls are selling pornography, not just showing pics of their feet! Wth, when people can't even tell the difference between selling pornography and simple feet pics being displayed, but they say they know for sure that a woman is a woman because they've seen a pic of his/her face, yet no genitalia. Geezus.
Like I said before in my post, my friends just KNEW FOR SURE that the person on the corner was a woman. They talked to her, observed her mannerisms, body language, even saw her feet and tits! She was hot! UNTIL she bent over and displayed her PENIS!
Feet pics with no face have a very high percentage that, sooner or later, they'll get boring just like tit pics with no face. And don't forget about the Tranny factor! Trannys make the faceless feet pic world go round! Happy New Year damnit!
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Dude, pics of models who show their face get boring too. I believe, in general, people, particularly men, get bored with looking at the same thing - especially women. Showing more is more or less just delaying (or possibly accelerating) the inevitable. I guess that depends on the viewer.
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Hmmm. We expect our contributors to post pics of their faces and we don't buy their excuses of not doing it for work/personal reasons. Yet they are th only one's exposing themselves. I'm a guy and I know I don't want my face pics up on this site so how can I expect someone else to.
I dare all the guys that claim that all models should show their faces to change their avatars to their face pics. Lead the way! I'm certain the culture of the forum will change and many would be more open to disclose their appearance!
GQguy
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It seems here that there is a fine line between what is being considered a foot "model" and then those who are just contributors as well as trying to discern between foot pictures and/or porn.
I have been called out on occasion for not showing my face in my posts, but I am not trying to pass myself off as a "foot model" nor do I have a site, sell pictures or any other item or generate a profit or income of any kind from my contributions.
I post here for the mutual satisfcaction of ... 1) being appreciated and receiving accolades which of course everyone likes to receive and... 2) to know I have brought joy, pleasure, etc. to others.
I have always enjoyed the feeling of giving and any normal human being enjoys feeling appreciated, respected, and perhaps yes - even somewhat "loved".
But I do not feel I need to show my genitalia to prove my gender. If I so choose to share my full identity with someone it is because a true friendship is developing and there is more interaction and sharing of information that just talking about the fetish aspects or viewing pics of feet. To those I build a level of trust and respect with - they are allowed to see "more of me" but never "all" of me... LOL
I am not here to PROVE myself to those who do not wish to view my posts and to each his/her own! There's enough quality material of all types here at Wu's to satisfy the masses!
I, for one, enjoy being a member and a contributor here in both the pictures and the talks and as long as there are those who enjoy the fact that I am doing it out of pure enjoyment -- I will continue to contribute. This is the only site I participate in and am quite happy leaving it that way.
Best of luck to everyone in 2009! Here's to a year of better understanding and increased tolerance.
Happy New Year! Perfectpeds
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quote:Originally posted by GQguy: Hmmm. We expect our contributors to post pics of their faces and we don't buy their excuses of not doing it for work/personal reasons. Yet they are th only one's exposing themselves. I'm a guy and I know I don't want my face pics up on this site so how can I expect someone else to.
I dare all the guys that claim that all models should show their faces to change their avatars to their face pics. Lead the way! I'm certain the culture of the forum will change and many would be more open to disclose their appearance!
GQguy
I'd do it except for the fact that I'm ugly! ...seriously!
quote:Originally posted by perfectpeds: It seems here that there is a fine line between what is being considered a foot "model" and then those who are just contributors as well as trying to discern between foot pictures and/or porn.
I have been called out on occasion for not showing my face in my posts, but I am not trying to pass myself off as a "foot model" nor do I have a site, sell pictures or any other item or generate a profit or income of any kind from my contributions.
I post here for the mutual satisfcaction of ... 1) being appreciated and receiving accolades which of course everyone likes to receive and... 2) to know I have brought joy, pleasure, etc. to others.
I have always enjoyed the feeling of giving and any normal human being enjoys feeling appreciated, respected, and perhaps yes - even somewhat "loved".
But I do not feel I need to show my genitalia to prove my gender. If I so choose to share my full identity with someone it is because a true friendship is developing and there is more interaction and sharing of information that just talking about the fetish aspects or viewing pics of feet. To those I build a level of trust and respect with - they are allowed to see "more of me" but never "all" of me... LOL
I am not here to PROVE myself to those who do not wish to view my posts and to each his/her own! There's enough quality material of all types here at Wu's to satisfy the masses!
I, for one, enjoy being a member and a contributor here in both the pictures and the talks and as long as there are those who enjoy the fact that I am doing it out of pure enjoyment -- I will continue to contribute. This is the only site I participate in and am quite happy leaving it that way.
Best of luck to everyone in 2009! Here's to a year of better understanding and increased tolerance.
Happy New Year! Perfectpeds
Don't worry about it Perfect Peds...when you're ready I'm sure it will be worth the wait. In my short time here I've noticed more than a few one hit wonders and infrequent drive-bys. You're a regular and deliver the goods without showing your face. All the best to you in 2009!
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It all depends. Some model's feet are easily recognized without the face. More importantly, noticing distinctive features (Mommies' tattoos, Tina Marie's high arches, or Mikayla's popsicle toes) have always been my biggest turn on!! All I'm saying is, the FEET speak for themselves. Adding the face in the photo is simply icing on the cake.
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quote:Originally posted by GQguy: Hmmm. We expect our contributors to post pics of their faces and we don't buy their excuses of not doing it for work/personal reasons. Yet they are th only one's exposing themselves. I'm a guy and I know I don't want my face pics up on this site so how can I expect someone else to.
I dare all the guys that claim that all models should show their faces to change their avatars to their face pics. Lead the way! I'm certain the culture of the forum will change and many would be more open to disclose their appearance!
GQguy
i'm not here looking for any sort of attention to boost my ego, like faceless models are
nobody comes here to see men in any way, shape, or form
so what would be the point of me or any guy posting a pic?
if it becomes a rule for every faceless chick to post a face pic, I will post a pic of my stunningly handsome face
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