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Sorry Jack, I thought you were going along with hott3028' sentiment. I saw your pun as a complaint about too much Dead being here. I guess I'm sorry to have implicated you in this, when it was hott that got it all going.
quote:Originally posted by hott3028: No offense, I never understood the whole Grateful Dead thing. I think people aren't really into the music (it's gotta be the most soul-less stuff imagineable, like a bunch of guys tuning up their instruments), they are into the community of the whole scene. Drugs, no baths, chicks with armpit hair, bad twirl dancing and drugs.
Almost a decade after Garcia died, these people are still carrying on.
So accept my apologies, Jack. I misunderstood you, and for that I'm truly sorry.
As for hott3028, keep your crummy opinions and generalizations to yourself.
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Now easy, folks. This is merely an on-line thread where we express our opinions. The fate of the known universe does not hinge on whether we prefer the Grateful Dead or Nitzer Ebb.
And actually, I agree. The Dead went WAY downhill starting in the second half of the 1970s and continued their decline right up through Jerry Garcia's demise in 1995. For too many people (including some of the band members themselves) it became about a party, a faddish scene, especially circa 1987 when "Touch of Grey" became such a huge hit for them. Also, several members (not only Garcia) had destructive substance abuse habits they were dealing with (for example, bassist Phil Lesh called the late-'70s through the mid-'80s "The Heineken Years"), and one band member in particular, rhythm guitarist and co-frontman Bob Weir, felt that the band's 1972-74 on-stage space odysseys had become too far out for most of the audience members and would go too far over the heads of any new fans whom they were trying to attract, and thus he took it on himself to limit the band's explorations, both in terms of scope and length.
In fact, if you'll listen to tapes from this period, it was usually Weir who would try to steer a jam back to earth, usually so he could do one of his songs, like "Sugar Magnolia," "One More Saturday Night," or "Around and Round." (Well, in his defense he also did have his own folk-jazz-fusion epic "Weather Report Suite" which, along with "Estimated Prophet," "Born Cross-Eyed," and "Victin Or the Crime," was one of the Dead's best tunes.) I find this to be telling, since Weir was actually let go of in mid-to-late 1968 because Garcia and Lesh (always the co-pilots of the band's exploratory and experimental ethos) felt he was holding them back musically, although in this case it was because of Weir's lack of confidence as a guitarist at that point.
Now as for the '80s Euro bands listed in this thread (Depeche Mode, Erasure, etc.), I've never been a big fan of them, or of hard rock/heavy metal. I prefer more explorational and experimental musics. But another person's tastes are cool with me.
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right on 2X4, we are just fuckin' around. Vasduten is a cool dude. I hope he's not pissed at me. just some fun at nobody's expense!
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Oh yeah, I forgot to add Aretha Franklin's Amazing Grace album, which she recorded in 1972 at her father's church.
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Also, Jimmy Smith, Root Down (Live) Nels Cline and Greg Bendian, Interstellar Space Revisited: The Music of John Coltrane Breakestra, The Live Mix, Vols. I and II Miles Davis, Live In Berlin, 1964Posts: 103 | Registered: Nov 2004
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