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quote:
Originally posted by National:
I read Jerry Jone's post about half way through before I said to myself that that was gay. After that I didn't want to read the rest of it.

[Laugh]

What? I really don't understand this.

On the subject of the original topic, I wouldn't do it but that's only because I'm really clumsy and I'd do a rubbish job. I think I tried it once but just ended up getting too much polish on the toes and not the nails, heh. And I'm quite feminine at times, should see me in the kitchen before guests come round! [Tongue]

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quote:
Originally posted by DSW:
Painting someone else's toenails is something girls do with each other when they're gossiping about who's cock they want to suck next. If a dominatrix demands a slave to paint her toenails, who looks like a bigger bitch? Well, anything a dom demands her slave to do makes him more fragile than she is but painting the toenails is quite comical.

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quote:
Originally posted by DSW:
quote:
Originally posted by National:
I think it's weird. In general this is not an act I would encourage foot fetishists to take on. Leave the toenail painting up to the pros at the nail salon. I read Jerry Jone's post about half way through before I said to myself that that was gay. After that I didn't want to read the rest of it. Painting her toenails seems cute, but it isn't. Would you offer to brush her hair for her or put on her make-up on a daily basis?

If a guy (especially one who doesn't have a foot fetish) overhears a conversation where a woman tells her friends that her boyfriend did her toe- and fingernails, I would think that it'll sound weird to him.


I agree with you, man. Totally agree.

This whole thing sounds a bit tutti frutti to me. Just from the fact that the question was asked to begin with should suggest that something about it is not quite right. Painting her fingernails every now and then sounds quite feminine. So why would painting toenails be any less feminine? You cannot paint her toenails and make it look as hot as she would do it or anyone from a salon would do it.

Painting someone else's toenails is something girls do with each other when they're gossiping about who's cock they want to suck next. If a dominatrix demands a slave to paint her toenails, who looks like a bigger bitch? Well, anything a dom demands her slave to do makes him more fragile than she is but painting the toenails is quite comical.

I'll tell you what, Mr. Dallas Cowboy. Instead of asking the people in here, why don't you tell your male buddies and co-workers exactly what you told us and see what THEY tell you. I'll bet that an overwhelming majority will side with me.

This is sexist and disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself, you pig.

I think you completely overlooked the point, while you were getting completely over your head with your over-masculine bullshit. The OP's girl was low on money, so he thought he'd treat her by doing her nails herself. It requires her to do nothing, just as if she were in a salon, and it is just another stage of pampering your woman.

Men who are completely secure with their sexuality are happy to do things like this to make their woman happy. The way I see it this is like a woman watching the football with her boyfriend or husband, even when she doesn't really like sports and such. But, oh god, that means she's a DYKE, right? Hiss, spit, burn it!! Grow up. People have moved on from the 50s, you know.

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No, women who watch sports with their boyfriends are cool! That's even if they know very little about the sport in question. They're not dykes, sweetheart! [Roll Eyes]

Trust me, I read the part where the girl was low on money, but still...

I'm all for making women happy. I mean, I'm DSW. Shoes make women happy and I'm for providing that sense of comfort and giddiness they feel when trying on something new.

So when women get together for a little slumber party or when they get their feet done at the salon, don't they talk about men and sex? I don't see where I went wrong in my statement. If women don't talk about men and sex when they are out together getting pampered or out shopping for clothes, then what DO they talk about?

But since they DO talk about those stuff, then that means you're missing out, honey. You might need to get out more often and become more socialized.

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I really think that women have things other than sex to talk about.
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I don't understand how you can't see the flip in gender roles there. It's an obvious one, and yet you just can't see past 'BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WOMEN DO!' Sports like football are a 'man' thing, stereotypically. Even if a woman doesn't like it, she may sit down and watch it with her man to make him happy. It's still a swap in gender roles - so one is okay, but the other isn't? I think you need to come out of the closet a little, can you see Narnia yet?

Women talking about men and sex is a stereotype, and actually kind of a harmful one if you get to thinking about it. It portrays all women as sluts who just want cock and will do nothing but gossip about it when they get it. I for one am very private and hardly ever talk about my sex life. I like to go out and shop, but I have better things to talk about than my personal life. I often have intelligent debate (shock horror!) while I do my nails, am dying my hair, etc. When I talk to my female friends I talk exactly the same way I would talk to my male friends - about music, about art, about video games, and about current affairs, because that's what is actually interesting.

You know, maybe you should stop watching Sex and the City, DSW, because it's having a very negative impact on how you think women interact. You will be surprised to find when you finally bed your first woman that not every woman is a vacuous, loose-cunted and shallow bitch.

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quote:
Originally posted by Martial Law:
I really think that women have things other than sex to talk about.

Absolutely. I agree. But at the same time, let's not pretend that they never talk about sex.
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quote:
Originally posted by Jammy:
I don't understand how you can't see the flip in gender roles there. It's an obvious one, and yet you just can't see past 'BUT THAT'S SOMETHING WOMEN DO!' Sports like football are a 'man' thing, stereotypically. Even if a woman doesn't like it, she may sit down and watch it with her man to make him happy. It's still a swap in gender roles - so one is okay, but the other isn't? I think you need to come out of the closet a little, can you see Narnia yet?

Women talking about men and sex is a stereotype, and actually kind of a harmful one if you get to thinking about it. It portrays all women as sluts who just want cock and will do nothing but gossip about it when they get it. I for one am very private and hardly ever talk about my sex life. I like to go out and shop, but I have better things to talk about than my personal life. I often have intelligent debate (shock horror!) while I do my nails, am dying my hair, etc. When I talk to my female friends I talk exactly the same way I would talk to my male friends - about music, about art, about video games, and about current affairs, because that's what is actually interesting.

You know, maybe you should stop watching Sex and the City, DSW, because it's having a very negative impact on how you think women interact. You will be surprised to find when you finally bed your first woman that not every woman is a vacuous, loose-cunted and shallow bitch.

Get a hold of yourself, okay?
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Come out of the closet, okay?
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quote:
Originally posted by Jammy:
Come out of the closet, okay?

You know, Jammy, as much as I find DSW's comments to be a bit too brash, I find your responses to him to be quite nasty as well. I have no reason to believe that he's a homosexual, but I find you as someone who hates homosexuals. You want to poke funs at gays and about men watching Sex and the City, instead of picking on someone who doesn't watch those movies, why don't you say them to me? Because I'm a guy who watches movies like Sex and the City. I put glitter on my face when I go out and act slutty with friends. I go shopping as much as women do. Lets see how "funny" your comments are when you talk to someone like me.

You responded to him in such a crass way. It was a nature hateful to homosexuals. Why do hate homosexuals like soooooooooooooooo much?

You sling homosexual insults at him (and I bet to other men in general) with a fervor and intensity of a wolf chewing a beehive. You practically spit all over yourself when you get a chace to snarl some anti-gay epithet at a man. You are like sooooooooooooooooo disgusting.

Then in an act of mind-numbing duplicity, women (and I bet you're one of them) claim as loudly as possible that gays are the greatest thing since slice bread. But listen to the reasons: because gays shop and gays listen.

Listen? Darling, you know as much about listening as shrimps know about how to drive cars.

When you're not shaming gays behind their backs with slanders that are like sooooooooooooooooo anachronistic, what you (and other women in general) really want to do with gays is make them sit through endless tirades of nonsesical blubbering without without like ever having to return the favor. Trust me on this one because I hang out with gays a lot.

To answer the question of this thread, it's not weird. But at the same time, it can be. I can understand DSW's comments because I can tell you as a fact that when I have my girlfriends and bitches get together at my place or theirs, one of the things we do, darling, is paint each other's toenails and fingernails. I also, like, play with each other's hair and we apply makeup on each others faces. A topic in the conversations that's quite common, sweetheart, is sex. Cocksucking and riding men like cowgirls, to be exact. We're not that candid in our conversations when we get our nails done at a salon. But in the privacy of my home or theris, honey, it's girl talk at its juciest. It's that all we talk about? No, but you can be sure that sex is somewhere in the menu. We talk about work, projects, backstabbing people (we're such devious bitches, aren't we? [Blush] ) and .... oh yeah, SEX.

Why am I on this forum? Because I love women sexually as well and I do have a fetish for women's feet. I also like men, but women take better care of them 100% better than men (excluding yourself, Jammy, just by judging from that picture from your avatar) so my fetish for feet is strickly on the female side.

Again, for straight men to paint women's toenails is not weird but at the same time it is. I guess DSW wanted to add shock value to the topic, and I'm all for drama, sweethearts and bithces. So I understand where he's coming from when he says it's like sooooooooooooooooo Project Runway-ready gay. I just find it funny how you try to call him a faggot and using that as a way in hopes of swamping this topic by intimidation.

The Drama Queen has spoken.

Bye, Bithces!

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Fun thread!!

What's wrong with being a man? Being a man is now equated with being insecure/closet homosexual ect? What's wrong with doing macho things? Painting toe nails won't fully emasculate you. But funny, as DSW mentioned sorta imagine your wife/gf saying in front of your friends...honey lets get home so you can paint my toe nails....he'd be fully emascualated.

Football and toe nail painting aren't equal. I'd say chic flic and football are equal.

Women really are trying to emsaculate men. Even Jammy is guilty of it. If you're macho you must be gay or insecure. It takes a truly secure man to resist these sorts of taunts that are meant to be painful. Male sexuality and identity is far tougher now than it was for my father's generation that knew exactly how to bbehave because they were raised by their fathers. This generation where men are raised by their mothers have lost their identity. Those taunts of "come out of the closet ok" are similar to the toned down things single mothers say to their sons all the time...while telling them not to be like their macho fathers.

Some men can find a balance. For some it's harder. Men must becareful with such things. There are many women i've dated that would resent their "man" painting their toenails. They want a protector/provider not a pedicurist. But then again, in moderation it's cool. One poster on the first page captures it exactly. Football coach, mechanic, provider, protector, sexual master, father and he paints his wifes toes. A true man.....he does it in moderation. Most men aren't masters of their domain. I can't think of many men in a commited relationship that are. I can think of fewer that can actually get away with it. Women are constantly testing us men to see how masculine we truly are...at least in the dating phase. I have no experience with marriage but from the majority of guys i've seen(not all but most) the women rarely challenge anymore because they know their man is weak.

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Some of the viewpoints I've read in this thread I find pretty ridiculous. If you don't mind me paraphrasing, basically it seems some are implying that painting toenails is too submissive of an action to fit into a healthy relationship.

I mean, you guys do realize that there are aspects of foot fetishism that include cleaning filthy shoes and having your nuts smashed into the ground, right? Fetishism can get pretty extreme. Pretty extreme, obtuse, and bizarre. There are men and women that live - what they would call - fulfilling lives involved in "total power exchange" with their partners. Basically what I'm trying to say is that in the spectrum of submissive acts, giving a pedicure is barely the tip of the iceberg. It's like the third ice crystal from the very tip top of the iceberg. Saying, "whoa, too far" about a pedicure, to me, is coming off as pretty naive.

I can understand that possibly some people may not have a submissive side at all (or at least they are completely and totally in denial that it exists). But for someone to think that painting a woman's toenails is going to lead down a slippery slope into wearing a tutu? Absolutely ridiculous.

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quote:
Originally posted by Night in Paris:
quote:
Originally posted by Jammy:
Come out of the closet, okay?

You know, Jammy, as much as I find DSW's comments to be a bit too brash, I find your responses to him to be quite nasty as well. I have no reason to believe that he's a homosexual, but I find you as someone who hates homosexuals.
Her bisexual partner would beg to differ.
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Wow!
...I hadn't read this thread in a minute...How did it turn into this?...NOT LMAO...

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quote:
Originally posted by dicky5:
Some of the viewpoints I've read in this thread I find pretty ridiculous. If you don't mind me paraphrasing, basically it seems some are implying that painting toenails is too submissive of an action to fit into a healthy relationship.

I mean, you guys do realize that there are aspects of foot fetishism that include cleaning filthy shoes and having your nuts smashed into the ground, right? Fetishism can get pretty extreme. Pretty extreme, obtuse, and bizarre. There are men and women that live - what they would call - fulfilling lives involved in "total power exchange" with their partners. Basically what I'm trying to say is that in the spectrum of submissive acts, giving a pedicure is barely the tip of the iceberg. It's like the third ice crystal from the very tip top of the iceberg. Saying, "whoa, too far" about a pedicure, to me, is coming off as pretty naive.

I can understand that possibly some people may not have a submissive side at all (or at least they are completely and totally in denial that it exists). But for someone to think that painting a woman's toenails is going to lead down a slippery slope into wearing a tutu? Absolutely ridiculous.

A slippery slope when it comes to the respect your woman has for you as a man. I'm not saying it can't be done. I do know however that the women I date prefer me to be dominant almost exclusively. I'd be letting them down to be submissive. And they WILL seek out another man that is dominant if i'm not properly playing that role. I know this from experience. Painting toenails isn't the straw that breaks the camels back....but it's not a good path when dealing with most women.

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