quote:Originally posted by Wrinklesguy: It was the liberal voters who voted on race...alot of them, which is sad because they are supposed to be un-biased towards race lol.
I know. So you'd have preferred...the old guy I forgot the name of?
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Abstained from what? Let's not play cat n' mouse here...the voting system is also fraudulent, plus I knew who was going to win based on the campaigns at the time.
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Voting is pointless...especially how they have the Electoral College set up, it should be a 2/3 majority of populus vote to win ANYTHING in a Democracy.
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quote:Originally posted by Wrinklesguy: It was the liberal voters who voted on race...alot of them, which is sad because they are supposed to be un-biased towards race lol.
quote:Originally posted by Wrinklesguy: It was the liberal voters who voted on race...alot of them, which is sad because they are supposed to be un-biased towards race lol.
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No he's got a point there. I mean hidden behind a veil of implying that Republicans are...racist?
I don't know if they are or not, but there's no reason they couldn't be...
quote:Originally posted by Wrinklesguy: Voting is pointless...
Do you *really* have a right to complain about any political issue then?
Hey, it's a free country.
Just because people don't vote doesn't limit their freedom of speech. Although other people who use that argument have it in their heads that people who don't vote should pretty much STFU.
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quote:Originally posted by Wrinklesguy: Voting is pointless...
Do you *really* have a right to complain about any political issue then?
Hey, it's a free country.
Just because people don't vote doesn't limit their freedom of speech. Although other people who use that argument have it in their heads that people who don't vote should pretty much STFU.
Well I've always been of the opinion that if you don't like how things are, try to change them. Voting is a way to do that. If you don't vote then you don't really have a right to complain that things haven't turned out the way you want them.
If you voted and you still didn't get the desired outcome, then complain your ass off, ya know? There's some poor fucks who don't get the vote, they just get dicked on and past generations worked hard to mean you had the right to vote. Just don't waste it is all I'm sayin'.
quote:Originally posted by Andy-Laa: If you don't vote then you don't really have a right to complain that things haven't turned out the way you want them.
My last post was a counter to this exact statement.
I firmly believe that no matter my participation in the "system", I have an inalienable right to express my opinion, so long as it is done in a reasonable and respectful manner. I won't be stopped by a tautology as the "if you don't vote, you shouldn't complain" nonsense.
But to be quite honest, a single Presidential election has very little to do with "the way things should be". The situation in this country hasn't changed since our forefathers declared independence. The kind of persistence one has to have when dealing with the current "system" is not something that many people have. Not to mention how dangerous it can get for subversives.
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quote:Originally posted by Andy-Laa: If you don't vote then you don't really have a right to complain that things haven't turned out the way you want them.
My last post was a counter to this exact statement.
I firmly believe that no matter my participation in the "system", I have an inalienable right to express my opinion, so long as it is done in a reasonable and respectful manner. I won't be stopped by a tautology as the "if you don't vote, you shouldn't complain" nonsense.
But to be quite honest, a single Presidential election has very little to do with "the way things should be". The situation in this country hasn't changed since our forefathers declared independence. The kind of persistence one has to have when dealing with the current "system" is not something that many people have. Not to mention how dangerous it can get for subversives.
Yeah, but I went on to further explain in my second paragraph, it's almost disrespectful not to vote seeing as people gave their lives so you'd have the freedom to do so.
Those who died for future generations' right to vote should be honoured, surely?
Otherwise if you had a means by which to do all you can to better improve the country - I know you can send letters and go to whatever your version of council debates and such, but those weren't specifically fought for, voting was - yet don't, it's hypocritical to then complain about the way things are (obviously excluding illness or other extenuating circumstances). You could have changed it, but CHOSE not to. If nothing else, you make the future leader aware of what his/her country believes/wants.
I agree to an extent they're all answering to the same boss, but you can't say Obama's thoughts to nationalising the healthcare system would be shared by McCain.
quote:Originally posted by Wrinklesguy: It was the liberal voters who voted on race...alot of them, which is sad because they are supposed to be un-biased towards race lol.
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No he's got a point there. I mean hidden behind a veil of implying that Republicans are...racist?
I don't know if they are or not, but there's no reason they couldn't be...
Racism is not hampered by political party affiliations. There's a little more to it than that, as with the election of Barack Obama.
quote:Originally posted by Wrinklesguy: It was the liberal voters who voted on race...alot of them, which is sad because they are supposed to be un-biased towards race lol.
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No he's got a point there. I mean hidden behind a veil of implying that Republicans are...racist?
I don't know if they are or not, but there's no reason they couldn't be...
Racism is not hampered by political party affiliations. There's a little more to it than that, as with the election of Barack Obama.
Oh okay then, no politician is or has ever been racist.
You can't deny that black people who hadn't voted in however many years they were eligible all-of-a-sudden voting in the first non-white president is a racially motivated vote.
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