quote:Originally posted by oneagain: What is the Hungarian farmgirl website???
On another note...not sure why the Barefoot Urban and Nudity sites were singled out...I have no stake in the sites but they seem to be at market price...so why would anyone pay for it? Different ethnicity then other sites...just like there are sites( or were) sites with just Central American Latinas and some just black women...and the Russian barefoot site as well...I can appreciate the different faces and the feet can be different as well from what I see around me.
To each his own....I sure hope this site isn't dead...it was a great way to see a variety of vendors and their unique offerings. I've been an off&on member to several of the sites here...admittedly haven't paid for content recently due to lack of free time and low storage space!!!
Hope Wu is ok and he returns...perhaps if he has left the industry...we can rebuild the site. I've been on other non-fetish boards and the owner abandoned them...others pulled as much content as possible and started a different site...and if the original owner returned he could reassume the helm.
just a thought!
Er.. I mentioned BAREFOOT URBAN GIRLS and BAREFOOT NUDITY because they happen to be MY OWN PAYSITES, sir.. And to be exact, they are priced UNDER the market average.. BAREFOOT URBAN GIRLS is set at the lowest monthly fee allowed by BHE billing system, and BAREFOOT NUDITY is set well under the leading paysites in the "flashing" niche (Jan Vels's Flash-In-Public and Russian site Public Sluts). If you have quality stuff, but not in big amounts because you have just started, you can try to compete with sites which have been around for years (and hence have zillions of pics and vids) only by trying to aggressively undersell them.. Even at dirty cheap fees, sadly people has not properly flocked to join my sites.. exactly because they now have access to LOADS of free stuff of all kinds, of all quality levels, and for ALL tastes, including super-niche, weird and extreme ones (the reference to the barefoot Hungarian farmgirls having sex with horses was just to hint at this.. and anyway you can find such stuff in the web with a little patience, in case you are interested.. just type the right keywords on google.. ).
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Our BHE sites get most of their traffic from WUS site and the contribution section. I really hope Wu returns. This is affecting all of the BHE sites.
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quote:Originally posted by Fair Adam: Well Feetosopher, you just about captured about 95% of what applies to me, what with me being one of the oldest dinosaurs around.
I couldn't possibly agree more with your assessment of the whole scene, and your work is clearly miles above the usual amateur fare, but which I like on its own merits BTW. My only difference with you is that I can't stand dirty feet, and I won't do beaver shots, but to each their own.
I will continue do do work that is the highest possible quality, given my budget and equipment, as long as I can still make some money from it, but they reason I go into this was not money, it was for the love of the subject.
This the nature of the universe, that nothing ever stays the same, so we have to adapt or perish...
I am really glad about what you wrote, Adam.. and even more so because you are an older dinosaur than I am! (I am "just" 45). That "beaver shots" made my day.. it's original "porn jargon" from the heyday of slick magazines.. music to my ears..
What you told about the genesis of Feet Fair and your "manifesto" for the future applies 100% with my own story.. I have started taking pics, supplying Toes-In-Action and finally I have launched my own paysites exactly as the icing on the cake of an entire life devoted to (devoured by!) barefoot beauties.
The operating margin of my sites would give a heartache to any serious businessmen.. but as I run my paysites only as an excuse to meet and shoot as many barefoot (and especially "more than barefoot" ) beauties as possible.. who gives a XXXX, after all???
Accepting reality when you cannot change it is OK, and also adapting to it, within certain limits.. but again, selling out your values is not OK, especially if this would make you terribly upset.. cult heroes are bound to have a tuff life, amico.. nobody achieves cult hero status through a few tweets.. so yes, I am on Facebook, Tumblr, xHamster, Fetlife, Flickr, YouTube and maybe some other "social web spaces".. but without selling out, staying selective (which can make you being felt by some as a hard-nosed asshole ). And it's my pics and vids which gave me cult hero status.. not small talk in a social network..
quote:Originally posted by Jimmy-G: I usually don't comment on forums, I just read the posts, but let me jump in here with my 2-cents worth.
I've been a webmaster since 1998 and have built over 200 websites. As far as readability, user experience and such... I don't see social media sites as having any advantage over the old forum model. If anything, I think it's a step backward. This is, in my opinion, a perfect example of the herd instinct. People following people without really knowing why. I market on Facebook, not because I love it, but because that's where clients are.
When you look at a forum like this one, what do you see? Nothing's broken. It's easy to use. Easy to upload pictures, easy to navigate. I don't see any issues that would cause someone to say, "It's too hard to use this system, let's try someone easier like Facebook."
Instead, you see people moving to the social media sites because "that's where the action is."
That being said, it is what it is. Forums don't have the traffic they used to, no matter what the topic or niche.
I am afraid that I have to agree with you on the decline of forums, no matter their user-friendliness and reliability from an IT standpoint (yeah, here on Wu's forum everything works as a Swiss clock.. I dare anybody to say the same of Facebook). Also the forum of CITY FEET paysite, which is the reference forum if you deal with barefooting and dirty-soled beauties, has been slowly dying since at least 2 years. Yet from my experience, while a post in the contribs section of Wu's Feet Links can bring a significant number of new subscribers to my sites.. a post on Facebook will at best result in a few cool comments, many stupid ones and assorted nuisances if you dare to "test the moral standards" a bit.. Facebook is great to find new models.. not to gain new customers.. for me, at least..
quote: This the nature of the universe, that nothing ever stays the same, so we have to adapt or perish...
Definitely not the Universe that demands change. It's some indecisive fucks online (in this case) who think they can be rock stars too and on a whim decide to sway social media. Add in a few content pirates who blot out Watermarks and steal full sets of photos off pay sites and claim them as their own and you have that entitled social generation who deserves none of it.
Who said anything about the universe DEMANDING anything? My statement was metaphorical, and worth reading carefully, certainly NOT misquoted or misinterpreted...
You said, the Nature of the Universe is that nothing ever stays the same, hence..it "demands" change by it's own nature which in concept doesn't have to be true if you don't want it to be. Especially when we're dealing with petty social trends that we have the power to squash.
How I wish that we can really squash those trends, amico.. from what I am seeing now, I am afraid that it's happening exactly the opposite. But yeah, I am with you in not accepting to be "obscured" by crappy pics and stupid talk wihout putting on a brave, relentless, "take-no-prisoners" fight! All the best from Italy, ciao!!
quote:Originally posted by oldschooler: Our BHE sites get most of their traffic from WUS site and the contribution section. I really hope Wu returns. This is affecting all of the BHE sites.
quote:Originally posted by Jimmy-G: I usually don't comment on forums, I just read the posts, but let me jump in here with my 2-cents worth.
I've been a webmaster since 1998 and have built over 200 websites. As far as readability, user experience and such... I don't see social media sites as having any advantage over the old forum model. If anything, I think it's a step backward. This is, in my opinion, a perfect example of the herd instinct. People following people without really knowing why. I market on Facebook, not because I love it, but because that's where clients are.
When you look at a forum like this one, what do you see? Nothing's broken. It's easy to use. Easy to upload pictures, easy to navigate. I don't see any issues that would cause someone to say, "It's too hard to use this system, let's try someone easier like Facebook."
Instead, you see people moving to the social media sites because "that's where the action is."
That being said, it is what it is. Forums don't have the traffic they used to, no matter what the topic or niche.
I don't know. Relatively speaking, for instance I find fetlife leaps and bounds easier to use than here. The option for profiles gives everyone personality. Again when talking about the average 18 year old....this forum is quite intimidating and archaic. We're all friends from a time where this was our only medium to communicate....but with tweets and Instagram and tumblr it's far easier to communicate with others than here. It'd be tough for new guys to not only join, but STAY. I think it's something we should give though too. Where are those kids now?
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quote:Originally posted by Jimmy-G: I usually don't comment on forums, I just read the posts, but let me jump in here with my 2-cents worth.
I've been a webmaster since 1998 and have built over 200 websites. As far as readability, user experience and such... I don't see social media sites as having any advantage over the old forum model. If anything, I think it's a step backward. This is, in my opinion, a perfect example of the herd instinct. People following people without really knowing why. I market on Facebook, not because I love it, but because that's where clients are.
When you look at a forum like this one, what do you see? Nothing's broken. It's easy to use. Easy to upload pictures, easy to navigate. I don't see any issues that would cause someone to say, "It's too hard to use this system, let's try someone easier like Facebook."
Instead, you see people moving to the social media sites because "that's where the action is."
That being said, it is what it is. Forums don't have the traffic they used to, no matter what the topic or niche.
Good points, but why is the "action" there? I value your knowledge as someone with a lot of experience building sites, but it is easier to post a photo to Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter than it is here for the AVERAGE to LESS THAN AVERAGE person. That's the majority of people on the web. As an admin here I've had numerous people ask me over the years "how do you post a picture?" "my code doesn't work" and things of that nature. Could it be them being lazy and not reading the rules and regulations area? Yes. But we don't have "upload photo" buttons here that MOST people would probably prefer using over the:
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code that is needed. I never had any problems with it, nor would I imagine, people like you. But we're not the majority and people now want everything to be super easy.
Again, I'm not saying anything bad about what we have here. I get a ton of traffic and business from this site. I'm simply talking about the ease of social media for COMMUNICATION and SHARING opposed to forums/messageboards. I think the new generation goes there 9/10 times.
quote:Originally posted by NorcalfeetStudios: Social media can always do as it pleases, but "active" paysites that offer quality unsurpassed photo & video material unlike "Joe and his g/f" for example will always be wanted and kept alive as long as the owner keeps providing updated material. Supply and Demand. Like fast food, Some people like McDonald's and some like Carl's Jr...they sell virtually the same or similar products just a personal preference to those who pick one over the other, doesn't mean one will die out.
I was not actually comparing social media to paysites. Rather, I was comparing the prospering social media websites to this forum, which is in the process of dying. No new members in months and no software updates in years speaks volumes about this.
Prospering because of what, popularity? Because I dont see any money being made through Facebook or Twitter because of how and what someone is posting. Eventually "free" runs out.
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Hmm, so 100 replies and 7 pages worth in a few days, WU'S FEET LINKS IS NOT DEAD. It's US, that make up this site and this thread has proven it NOT to be dead by the amount of concern and questioned appearances by many people. It's only "dead" when the last person leaves the bar. Look at the forest for the trees.
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Yeah,,,,I agree wity Jimmy-G. Social media is such a heard mentality. I've tried them all, and I only spend time on LinkedIn because it's all professional. I don't waste time on the latest fad- media. I prefer more one on one and group interactions, rather than crowd-speak. It's definitely a generational thing, youngsters, especially 20-something's, need that, I don't. They'll all grow up, have kids, have problems, and quit worrying about being "popular". If you got time for all that constant 24-7 activity of all that social media, you have WAY to much time on your hand and need to spend more time being successful instead of being "trending" --thus enduth the lecture!
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Oh my. This site has been among the very first foot fetish websites I've ever found, years ago. Perhaps even in my 15, or sooner? Seriously. Wu's Feet Links are legendary.
However it does seem that Wu, for whatever reason, has decided not to update anymore.
I've read all of your reactions here. Both pro- and contra-social networking. Gotta say I'm from among the younger generation and I fancy Web 2.0+, social networks and most of what it brings along. I admit it's stuff like Twitter or Tumblr, that's behind this decadence of old-school foot fetish sites (I run my own tumblr blow anyway).
However, Wu's has its own charm. And if anything has happened and it's true it's technically dead and there's 11 months left until this site is shut down... I believe we - or mostly you, who contribute to these forums for years - should do at least something about it.
If the torch wasn't passed to another bearer, I agree with some people up where and say, let's rebuild this. Not the same, let's build the version 2.0. Don't exclude forums, don't exclude social networking, don't exclude free promotion. Even more, make it better.
I also happen to be a freelance web developer. If necessary, I would go for it and build a website that could take Wu's place on the internet. Anyone here wants to help? Be sure to let me know.
Mail to vikifeet@gmail.com with your ideas and opinions. If at least some of you think it's a good idea, let's do it. Just e-mail me.
Anyway, the better option would be for Wu to come back. Hope he's okay and this is just a huge hoax.
Expecting to hear from you
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quote:Originally posted by SlovakiaFeet: Oh my. This site has been among the very first foot fetish websites I've ever found, years ago. Perhaps even in my 15, or sooner? Seriously. Wu's Feet Links are legendary.
However it does seem that Wu, for whatever reason, has decided not to update anymore.
I've read all of your reactions here. Both pro- and contra-social networking. Gotta say I'm from among the younger generation and I fancy Web 2.0+, social networks and most of what it brings along. I admit it's stuff like Twitter or Tumblr, that's behind this decadence of old-school foot fetish sites (I run my own tumblr blow anyway).
However, Wu's has its own charm. And if anything has happened and it's true it's technically dead and there's 11 months left until this site is shut down... I believe we - or mostly you, who contribute to these forums for years - should do at least something about it.
If the torch wasn't passed to another bearer, I agree with some people up where and say, let's rebuild this. Not the same, let's build the version 2.0. Don't exclude forums, don't exclude social networking, don't exclude free promotion. Even more, make it better.
I also happen to be a freelance web developer. If necessary, I would go for it and build a website that could take Wu's place on the internet. Anyone here wants to help? Be sure to let me know.
Mail to vikifeet@gmail.com with your ideas and opinions. If at least some of you think it's a good idea, let's do it. Just e-mail me.
Anyway, the better option would be for Wu to come back. Hope he's okay and this is just a huge hoax.
Expecting to hear from you
I like your outlook. This is a tough problem to tackle. My thoughts are: how do we
-keep all of the old legacy members in the loop -attract younger new members -create a cohesive place for everyone to congregate -keep it classy(unlike the mousepad) -integrate the MASS amount of media out there on Instagram/twitter/tumblr that dwarfs out photo section -give our hard working vendors a plug, hopefully exposing their material to an even larger audience -bring women back into the fold. (Face it, we only have a handful! Far from 2008 where we had 3 handfuls!)
Wu's was like Ancient Rome. All foot fetish roads lead here. Now it's like modern Rome...just a cool place to visit. How do we make Wu's the center of the foot fetish world again? It's not going to take classic thinking. I think revamped forum supported by a tumblr/twitter/Instagram that all easily refer to one another is the answer. If anyone has an example of a community that has accomplished please speak up!
Imagine if we brought in every guy/girl with a twitter, Instagram Facebook, tumblr, fetlife and brought them together? We'd be huge...far more so than our "glory days".
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@GQguy I don't think that's a good idea. It's not even possible to bring it all to one place - not by far. The social media made it all too huge to be centralized. We could however provide a connection between all those "groups", like you said.
Firstly, I don't think that after we built it, it would be "Wu's" per se anymore. Many of current member won't like and just forget about it. Many would join in.
Younger members won't be an issue after integrating socials like twitter, tumblr, or instragram. Trust me. There will only be more of foot blogs and stuff from this day on. They almost never die out - just an example: We have reached 3K visits in 3 days on a tumblr blog. Not even a pornographic content.
The idea we could take from Wu's is to provide place for these new sites to be advertised. That's huge, really.
Concerning "classy", I guess this is just about anyone's opinion. I don't know mousepad personally.
Technically speaking, all the problems could be solved by just integrating Wu's idea into modern internet, with everything it contains.
My opninon about women shooting foot fetish sets: Guess it's all about how lucky you are or how much you pay her. I personally have a GF who loves me to take pictures of her feet, but she's not professional model (at least not yet). Anyway, with stuff like Instagram, I don't see any good way of getting women to shoot for us again. Maybe someone else's got some ideas?
As for the website idea, I'm in.
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Yea not trying to says Wu's is dead but it is Ancient been a member since 2005 but really now you have Instagram & Tumblr to get ur foot fetish fix and most amateurs on there AREN'T afraid to show their face and for whatever reason when you see stuff on Instagram or Tumblr Wu's is rarely brought up if ever and that's pretty sad!
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