quote:Originally posted by SlovakiaFeet: @NorcalFeet You're right, I'm just guessing. I'm trying to figure out how such a market is or would work on modern internet. Now and in the nearest future.
I'm glad to hear you've got enough customers, I wish you good luck. Nevertheless, you can't deny that Wu's (or in fact, any kind of) advertising is and always will be helpful.
What we're trying to figure out is to whether it is worth it to recreate a place where anyone could advertise his websites/stores for free, or, if it comes to that, reasonably small fee. A place where at least most of active internet foot fetishists could always come to, see what's new. Place offers and requests, perhaps? Anything.
A place powered by its own mechanics and supplied by the social media. I don't know about you, but it sounds to me like a great idea.
So how about that?
Absolutely, there's no reason why the two cannot mingle and mix concepts and share so as it doesn't infringe on copyright laws and does not take away business from the artists and producers, and some of the models who rely on MY INCOME, from CUSTOMERS so they can use their time pleasing you guys. When all the pay sites stop supplying the "foot chain", the social media empire will crumble to it's knees no matter how many selfies some girls take of themselves. 80% or better of shared photos on social media are from paysites or side projects of producers OF paysites and their friends. So be careful, what you guys wish for.
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quote:Originally posted by sonoma1: While I do agree that the explosion of social media makes people perhaps less likely to join Wu's and be active here, I would think it can also have seriously strong benefits for websites that seek subscribers.
In the past, their marketing was relegated to posting banners on others' sites or posting previews here on Wu's - pretty passive. Now, they can utilize Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, YouTube, Model Mayhem, FetLife, etc. (let alone other "social" video sites like FFT) to get their name out there.
True, there is more content overall out there so everyone competes on a grander scale, but all it takes is having that "ONE" model that appeals to people as seen through one of these social media channels to inspire someone to buy a subscription or clip.
I already mentioned this in a previous post. I get very little if ANY traffic from social media sites I share on. This is a great theory though, and I wish it were true! No matter how many "LIKES" a producer gets they never equate to signups. Of 50 or 100 likes on Facebook on any particular model of mine, maybe 1 or 2 new signups pop up that came from that marketing avenue.
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@NorcalFeet: Just so we understand each other - I don't support piracy and have no intentions of taking your business away or stole from your websites. That's poor.
On the contrary, my idea was to bring together stuff for foot fetishists, just as, perhaps, some "model material" for professional photographers.
I guess we'll only see once someone does it.
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quote:Originally posted by SlovakiaFeet: @NorcalFeet: Just so we understand each other - I don't support piracy and have no intentions of taking your business away or stole from your websites. That's poor.
On the contrary, my idea was to bring together stuff for foot fetishists, just as, perhaps, some "model material" for professional photographers.
I guess we'll only see once someone does it.
Language barrier lol, trust me I wasn't worried about business being taken away. I am down for such sight where we can connect the two worlds and cross market, but will remain skeptical because the two concepts are diametrically opposed to each other in theory of customer base and intention.
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quote:Originally posted by NorcalfeetStudios: I already mentioned this in a previous post. I get very little if ANY traffic from social media sites I share on. This is a great theory though, and I wish it were true! No matter how many "LIKES" a producer gets they never equate to signups. Of 50 or 100 likes on Facebook on any particular model of mine, maybe 1 or 2 new signups pop up that came from that marketing avenue.
FB is the worst one for foot-fetish site marketing. Use Twitter and others.
quote:Originally posted by NorcalfeetStudios: I already mentioned this in a previous post. I get very little if ANY traffic from social media sites I share on. This is a great theory though, and I wish it were true! No matter how many "LIKES" a producer gets they never equate to signups. Of 50 or 100 likes on Facebook on any particular model of mine, maybe 1 or 2 new signups pop up that came from that marketing avenue.
FB is the worst one for foot-fetish site marketing. Use Twitter and others.
Yeah same thing, no traffic...all the people on those sites want is a quick jerk from some free pics. They aren't interested in linking to a paysite..
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quote:Originally posted by NorcalfeetStudios: I already mentioned this in a previous post. I get very little if ANY traffic from social media sites I share on. This is a great theory though, and I wish it were true! No matter how many "LIKES" a producer gets they never equate to signups. Of 50 or 100 likes on Facebook on any particular model of mine, maybe 1 or 2 new signups pop up that came from that marketing avenue.
FB is the worst one for foot-fetish site marketing. Use Twitter and others.
Yeah same thing, no traffic...all the people on those sites want is a quick jerk from some free pics. They aren't interested in linking to a paysite..
You can get em. It's a < 1% conversion rate. You have to be constantly updating.
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Twitter is probably a better choice than Facebook, true. But I wouldn't underestimate the power of any social networ - granted, the conversion rates will be low. But regarding the number of people seeing your advertising, even 1% can make a difference.
The problem with Facebook is, that it's too public. Some people may not like presenting their fetish on Facebook, and, frankly, fake FB accounts just to keep up with foot updates are quite annoying.
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quote:Originally posted by SlovakiaFeet: @Feetosopher: Truly worth your nickname. You're of course right - those are the issues. But I really don't think they can be actually solved one day. All we can hope for is a consensus. To gather all those kinds of people, and see what happens.
One thing to realize is this: People with foot fetish are still a minority. Let alone those who have such strong feelings about feet, that they're willing to pay for stuff. Compared to this group, all those people who like to take foot pics and just post them together form a group way larger. Therefore it is natural and only natural, that even if you make 100.000 people see the stuff you're offering them to buy, only very small percentage will actually go for it.
What I was offering here was just an option. A possible attempt to a solution. Not a definite, ultra-solution. I say we try, and see what happens. Am I wrong?
OK dude.. let's reason about it.
STARTING POINT: we live in two "enemy camps". You seem to be happy with visibility (for now at least), as you shoot your GF's (great!) peds for free.. in my case, visibility is just a mean to get someone to subscribe to my sites.. because you see, getting one hundred or so of beautiful barefooting girls to show their faces, dirty feet, and (in my BAREFOOT NUDITY website) also TITS, PUSSY & ASS has cost me A LOT OF MONEY over the last 10 years..
YOUR IDEA: no matter the starting point (see above), you and I (and other dudes like you and vendors like me, I suppose) should "cooperate".. OK dude.. what can you offer to me? And what can I do for you? Wanna reblog my stuff and promote my sites? Cool, feel free to do so! I have got THREE blogs on Tumblr (and two more in Italian).
BUT.. there is a PROBLEM! As you can see, two of my blogs contain MUCH MORE THAN BARE FEET.. and this is exactly the stuff of mine which goes strong, and which has the best market outlook.. have you got the guts of featuring on your nice Tumblr blog some dirty-soled "pornographic content" (as you have called it.. to me it's "erotica")??? NO??? Then.. I am afraid that you have NOTHING to offer to me, dude.. To me, the TRUE value added of Wu's Feet Links contributions page (and with way less effectiveness, also of this forum's "Adult Content" section) is exactly this.. NUDITY IS ALLOWED!!! And I can show it EXACTLY to the people who want to see it combined with FEET.. and I don't have to fight for visibility with the FLOOD of posts by chaps who - like you - are just happy with people getting horny at the sight of their GF's peds..
Best of success for your blog, anyway.. and a low bow to your GF's gorgeous feet.. I wonder whether the rest of her is equally exciting.. Ciao from Italy!
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Why is this thread arguing about whether people will pay for pay sites? Obviously people do whether or not Wu's is around. This conversation has derailed so bad.
As for social media not bringing in traffic, I got quite the bump when I made a Twitter account. Then someone told me to make an Instagram and I rolled my eyes. Not another social media account to keep up with. But I did and another bump. Then I decided to go ahead and move my columns off site and convert it into a blog. Another bump. If people read up on how to Tweet and blog for search engines, you'll do just fine - believe me.
If you're looking at social media as some guy just jacking off to free pics and not signing up, then what do you think your contributions, feature sets, and forum posts have encouraged over the years? That's a silly statement because all of it will be used and abused in the same manner. I pretty much post the same exact stuff here as I do there. Not like I'm giving away anything else.
My biggest love of the social media is the interaction with fans and members. It's easy and with Twitter, it's short and sweet!
I personally (if anyone really cares) would hate if the current bulletin board site ended up some social media site. For the cats that dig it, great...but I woulndt be bothered with setting up bogus accounts just so I can see some free pics.
At least here things are self contains...social media can be aggregated and content isolated...which could work against someone.
Now back to saving Wus ....Fair Adam...any luck with seeing if bhm may put the site in a custodialship? Hoping Wu didn't have to pay for webspace. If we can do it we should try to...the earlier the better!
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quote: If you're looking at social media as some guy just jacking off to free pics and not signing up, then what do you think your contributions, feature sets, and forum posts have encouraged over the years? That's a silly statement because all of it will be used and abused in the same manner.
The difference is contribs, feature sets, and forum posts at Wu's bring in 100 times more hits and business than the same amount of time invested in marketing through social (entitled) media. I have the BHE stat reports to prove it. BTW, I have seen more pirated and de-watermarked photos from SOS than any other site out there. That Russian site vacuumed your whole site and has every photo set you've ever shot for free.
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I don't know how in the fuck people use that twitter. It just looks like a bunch of retarded fucking gibberish to me. When I first heard the term hash tag I thought it was something cool like a dog tag style sort of locket to stash your hash in during the summer if you're going swimming or wearing shorts with no pockets. Then I found out it was some type of Twitter slang.
I liked myspace back in the day and I like forums. I made a facebook, actually my sister made it for me back in the day to get me with the times but I haven't logged into it in months because I find it way too annoying. Twitter is where I draw the line. I will never register a twitter account so help me God because it doesn't even make sense. On a hockey forum I go on, someone posted a link to a twitter conversation between a couple of players supposedly trash talking each other and I near had an aneurism trying to follow a simple discussion. Fucking stupid. That fetlife is pretty cool though, I must say I enjoy that site a fair bit as while the interaction here has slowed, I find it's fairly active over there. I dunno, I guess I'm just old school. This twitter stuff doesn't strike me as the least bit cutting edge or intuitive, but rather the further devolution of the English language and an absurd form of communication. Ignorance on my part in some ways I suppose but I think I'd rather be ignorant than down right fucking retarded.
quote:Originally posted by Patrick: This conversation has derailed so bad.
This thread is like that one Twilight Zone episode where the power goes out and everyone in the neighborhood starts freaking out and someone gets killed and you find out at the end that it's the precursor to an alien invasion.
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